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9 9a.m.New York Time

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 we Ming Jing Television are going to start the third episode of interview with Mr.Wengui Guo.

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We were in a studio on Long Island 

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 and nowl,Xiaoping Chen and Mr. Wengui Guo

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are in the studio in Manhattan 

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 Hello Mr.Wengui Guo

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 HiMr. Xiaoping,and greetings to Mingjing audience

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while Mr. Guo's forehead always shines  Usually my forehead does not shine

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 Todaylsit here and feel my forehead shining as well.

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 Yours is shinier.

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 Thanks,thanks.

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Idid the first interview with you on January 26 126

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38 the second one on March 8.

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Now comes the third 

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 You advertised a lot before today's show

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The most famous advertisement,how to say 

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611 you said in the safety report video on June 11

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616 that you would let us see something totally different on June 16.

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You wanted us to train our hearts,be prepared and train our body 

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616 You make June 16 so importanti

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Ihave to ask you why later 

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judgment of the case of your company But firstlysince thereis news about the 

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 which has become the most concerned news

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Ihope you can answer the most urgent question 

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from the audience about this legal case. 

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 OK.Hello toall the audience of Mingjing,and my Twitter friends.

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Iam very glad andpleased 

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to see that the first episode of my interview by Mr.Xiaoping Chen 

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 from Mingjing has become a classic historical event

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So todayokay 

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 How do you think aboutthe effect

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 have aiready said about it.Fantastic Congratulations! You are so great.l

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 Just nowmanypeople commented

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 and asked why we did not prepare a second system

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Itold Mr. Guo that if we have 100 systems today 100

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 they will destroy

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 them allaswell.

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Because they blocked entire YouTube today.Isn't it YouTube

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YouTube The entire You Tube,like all around the worid

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 Yes,worldwide.

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 However this new technology brings us back

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Ididnt imagine that the Israeli technology.. 

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 So money is important.

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Mr. Lifan Zhang saidI did not spend any money 

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 Now you see we actually did.

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 We use this technology to fight against the world's top hackers.

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 Itis absolutely the hacker's event.

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 You shall explain your new technology to us all.

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OkayMr.Xiaoping 

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now all Internet hackers have basically two methods 

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 One is to overcrowd your network with enormous information

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They can do it if they know your IP address. IP

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keyboard But just now for the keyboard at homer

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the line was physically cut which was such an exaggeration 

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This was not done by hackers 

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 The optical fiber of this building was cut

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physically 

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Another method is to block your network by enormous information 

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He gave me this,myphone 

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 and all other numbers.

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ltis connected to three places. One is satellite, 

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 linking mobile phones to satellite which is customized.

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If we cannot make it,then we will transfer to  the satellite. Thisis the expense of satellite.

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The second most exaggerating thing 

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is that this mobile phone does not use your Wifi or your network, WIFI

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but asignal specially offered 

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 byan American company

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 The third is that the software of this mobile phone is modified.

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 which means that it does not accept any alien software

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 Many people send you messages,

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like when Twitter friends send me messages 

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 they bring viruses in as well

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 Such things will not happened to this device.

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 Soltake it out immediately

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4 We have four mobile phones all together like this now.

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The previous one is not good 

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It will be hacked if we click on messages from others. 

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But this one works well which is a miracle.Really nice. 

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 Ok,wefinished features now.

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We sent back the nuclear bomb for you and now let's come back. 

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The court in Dalian has just adjudged your employees 

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 You have many lawsuits. Please introduce the lawsuits from this one

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and then introduce other huge lawsuits that you have experienced recently,

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 starting from this one. How about this one?

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We can talk about this event in this way. First of allthis morning 

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the Dalian case is the first case of loan fraud

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and bribery fraud on Yang Ying 

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Lu Tao and Xie Honglin 

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9 adjudged at 9:30 this morning

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At the same time,in New York, 9:30 here, 9

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and 9:30 p.m. Beijing time,

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 the court was in session

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 The courtis now in session for the case that Mr. Yishi Pan

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 and Ms. Shuli Hu accusing me of libel.

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 The third is also held in New York Supreme Courtand

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a series of accusation pointing at me recently including the case involving the nine companies. 

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 This is the result of the manipulation of the politics

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 You may also know that now people in Britain

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and Hong Kong are also doing the same thing 

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 The most obvious one is the Dalian case,which was already adjudicated

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Tao Lu was sentenced to 2 year and 3 months in jail 23

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3 which means he still has 3 months left in the detention center.

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 both of whom will be released soon.

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 Last nightwhich is morning in the mainland

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 they were brought to the hotel after the judgment's pronouncement.

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 After they arrived the hotel,policemen were there watching

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 They were excited and met some of their family members in the room.

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 Our employees have specially taken care of them.

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 Manypeople took care of him. They were very excited.

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Before our program started suddenly Dalian police said to them 

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 allowed to get in touch with the outside world You were not given food and were not

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Iwill send you back to thepolice station at once.  If you want to possess the things mentioned above,

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I can serve a sentence outside, but how can you do this to me?

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Besides, Tao Lu was sentenced to an additional 3 months 3

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lam also surprised.As faraslknow 

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 we compare this case with Li You's case, talking about this from all perspectives,when

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the result of this case should not have been like this. This situation has not been seen in the past. 

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For the case of Li Youhe was released as innocent in the court 

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Now what? This is ruling by law. What is this now?

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lt is really ruling by dirty tactics. 

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ltis a set of so-called trial procedure made for Wengui Guo. 

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They will make it public, followed by court session and live broadcast 

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You will stay in the detention house and could not leave months which is kidding in reality.

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 police and Political and Legal Affairs Commission have no conscience

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what they did was actually kidnapping  They thought they were smart,but

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What they wantis simple. They just want to hold myemployees hold

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they will say iflsee thesituation clearly  and make me shut up.IfIdo not shut up

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Tao Luis still in jail My thirteen other employees are not adjudged yet. 13

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 You see,two of my employees are sentenced to probation to give them freedom.

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Ican still let the police watch them and let them call you. 

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 What kindof lawis this?

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 Don't you have procedures according to the law

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 You study law,Mr.Xiaoping

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Can you explain to me which lawis this so that I can learn about the law 

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 No,no,no,I study law

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Ido not understand many things but lalways say lhave limited knowledge 

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 Forthe suspension of the sentence,

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 Ilearnt from the news that your employees have given up to appeal.

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It means the sentence takes effects. They shall be released.

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 This is the lawright Why do they still detain them

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This is how they dealt with the lawyer of the 709 incident,

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709 Li Heping. After he finished his sentence

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 he was not allowed to be released either Right,then what does Rule by Law'mean?

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 They are messing around and disregarding the law.

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During the interview we had on the day 

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 you said that you had hope on Rule by Law

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 The traces of the directing of that trial were very explicitweren'tthey

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 everyone knows very clearly what the judgment willbe.What more

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even the person got off with a suspended sentence,anyhow he would not be released. 

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 Not simply that he was not allowed to be released,

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So,regarding Rule by Lawin China,due to Guo Wengui 

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 And this is the new evidence and new case.

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Right. At the time, I said you were too optimistic.

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 You were optimistic towards the Rule by Law by the new leader

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I didn't quite believe in that 

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when considering the problem of  advancing the Seven Principles of Guo

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Many people are paying attention to this case. We will follow upon it. 

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It seems that your lawyers in New York have already. 

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We have started. 

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talk about that New York case later.  We have started to take action. We will

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Let me say this again,the discussion of this case relates to the new leader. 

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youtube Ihave just got the news that your Youtube service is back.

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youtubeyoutube My Youtube has been recovered,then let's continue using Youtube.

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 Let's start.lt's great to have it recovered and continued.

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youtube So Youtube viewers, you can go to Youtube if you wish

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Our live broadcasting is not interrupted.

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 Maylinterrupt you It's not you being interrupted,

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 it's because we provide them with another option and now it is recovered.

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 Since they can't make it dead,so it returns.

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 Therefore,everyone has to understand that it's not that itis recovered,

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 ltis because that we have nuclear weapons. lt has no choice

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have fought with them all these years. · We have nuclear weapons always.l

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Irealized one thing.Mr. Xiaopingyou haveto remember 

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what you are competing with is power. When you have no power, 

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 he laughs when he strangles you to death.

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you are dead,because you are too stupid  He still laughs when he eats you up after

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 He would only respect you when you are more powerful than him.

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 Forthe interruption just now,the audience has two extreme reactions:

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some blamed people on that side,they blame.. ..

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And some said,we are waiting there No matter how late Xiaoping you are. 

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lam moved by this and therefore we would sacrifice our life to come back 

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Ihave to get the program done right  Iwould cry only after l finish the program.

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 Ihave noted that your lawyer

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have started fighting back in New York 

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Can you talk a little about it?

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... Well...1,I will talk about the nine New York cases briefly and

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 come back to the case of Dalian later. These nine cases

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are definitely operated by the nation traitors. This is beyond any doubt. 

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lknow almost none of the companies involved in these nine cases.Ionly know Chen Jianwu. 

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Because the securities business and Pangu  Company have thousands of subcontractors.

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 There is no way for me to remember.Idid not get involved either.

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When they Mr Lu,brought a lawsuit 

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 Because all related parties,our people,were arrested.

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 In this case,this was a real joke to me.

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The people behind this operation in China are stupid and ignorant 

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They don't understand the lawtoa  degree that you can never imagine

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 First of all you know thatand you were at that program too

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other's judicial system. This is one thing China and the US do not recognize each 

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 Secondly,those nine companies sued us

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2016 and they got their judgments in 2016.

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 and mostly my company did not appear in court

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 we didn't reject at all.

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 These nine companies,who have had the trial results,are messing around

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 In our companythe official seal

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 and even a piece of paper,were sealed up. Employees were arrested.

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 The company came to a halt.

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 There was several billion of money on the accounts. How much is your case worth?

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lt adds up to USD20 or 30 million only That would be RMB200 million only 

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 With billions of cash balance in ou accounts,the cases can be easily settled

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I have prepared lots of documents today. 

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 later.I will not really talk about it here We will put them up on Twitter soon

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the Commission for Discipline Inspection 2014 You can see how many reports we filed to

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 and the special investigation team of the Ministry of Public Security

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 We requested the settlement of the outstanding construction payment

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 it's that the special investigation team the Commission for Discipline Inspection

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and the Ministry of Public Security illegally seized all the assets, sites and documents. 

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 We are allowed to use cash at bank for the payment.

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these nine companies and we are willing to pay. So we acknowledge the outstanding the bills with 

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 Yet we also find that it is you dont allow us to pay

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Today you file lawsuits against me in a country 

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 without competent jurisdiction

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What's more unbelievable is that,my company isa limited company 

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 My lawyer was confused after seeing this What does it to do with me Guo Wengui?

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There are many people that don't understand this,Inever said it out. 

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 You studied law and you know limited company and company act in taking responsibilities.

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 Secondlyo you now mystatus?

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 Do you know what passport I have?

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 Thesepeople continue to claim that you are the actual controller.

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Do  you know the criteria for the actural contrroler?

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Idon'tknowatthe moment 

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 Firstlyinfrontofthecamera

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lam speaking to all the judges in China 

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 please ask yourself for the sake of your conscience,

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 is your case legal or not Does it have a solid ground?

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them all.Iwill talk about two of them only Ihave seven core secrets.I won't reveal 

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 Ihave to talk about the seven principles.

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 The judge in China,and all members from the Public Security Bureau,

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the Procuratorate and the Court who are in charge of my cases should be arrested. 

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Firstly,  Wengui does not have a Chinese passport 

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 My name,Guo Wengui does not exist.

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 Such Guo Wengui doesn't exist on earth.

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 You have used a name without any legal foundation.

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 You make it the actual controller of assets of many enterprises

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valuing hundreds of billions yuan in China 

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 According to the law worldwide,

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the procedure is illegal,the document is illegal 

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 Do you still have anything for the trial to begin with

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· This is the first thing. The second one something even more unbelievable,

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 What kind of enterprise is Pangu Securities Is it a foreign enterprise

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I,Guo Wengui do not have a Chinese passport. 

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If I,Guo Wenguiam the actual controller 

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it would be a foreign enterprise 

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since ldo not hold a Chinese passport. This is straightforward. 

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If itis a foreign enterprise 

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Ihave nothing to do with it. Thejudge  seeks to provelam the actual controller

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with merely several documents as evidence. 

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 How utterly stupid he is! The legal citation is inadequate

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The legal condition is inadequate 

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The judge seeks to prove,based on those people who have been taken into custody 

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 and forced to confess by torture,

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thatlam the actual controller Has he ever made any investigation on 

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the actual controller behind meI can say now 

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 Jiang Zemin is my actual controller

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Ican say that Xi Jinping is my actual controller. 

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 Ican say that Wang Qishan is my actual controller. Can you prove it

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Those employees who are still in custody 

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 can also say Mr.Wang Qishan is the actual controller. Why not

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Therefore the judge has made such a big joke 

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 doesn't exist and things that do not exist. asall these cases are about a person that

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The judge even put him on trial and made himas the major defendant to go on trial. 

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 And in New York,my New York lawyer was confused

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about the document prepared by Lawyer Kevin Tung. 

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Hesaidyou have to read the English  documents carefullyandlwas confused too.

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30 In each of the 30 articles of that document,it contains the phrase of,

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 based on various publicly available information

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Just because of which, the U.S. judge can decide that,

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the lawyer is not qualified for his position 

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How could a lawyer saybased on publicly available information" 

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 That's why my laywer laughed when he read it.

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lasked:What are you laughing at?" He said this could not be written bya lawyer 

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 should not write something like this Not to mention lawyers,even students

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Because to any judge.. 

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 this document is not qualified to be submitted to the judge. 

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 public information Thisis the first thing. How can you sue someone base on

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 Secondiy youWenguhld a Chinese passport?

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 No,can you or this enterprise prove that you are a related party

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 No.If so why do those companies sue you

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Thirdly  ou ait that your company  owe those companies moneyIdo.

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Then why do they sue you He said he is not suing me 

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 This is a threat. This is politics.

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Therefore he wrote a letter right away. 

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 Ihave put it up on Twitter today.

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What concepts does this letter leave to Kevin Kerveng Tung 

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 He can wait and see. In this case Kelvin Tung

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 would lose his legal career for the rest of his life. Everyone can wait and see.

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 Because hebecomes thejoke of the legal sector.

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When this document was circulated in the entire English legal sector 

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the entire world was looking at the thing of David boss DavidBoies

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 Heis no doubt a true class attorney

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and a big name who changed many of the laws of the US 

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 Everyone says that,this is how the Chinese understand the U.S.

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 and the lawof the U.S. They understand it based on Chinese law.

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 This is such a huge joke.

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However,it becomes a classic case as the basis for suing does not exist. ·

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There is no possibility fora lawsuit Nor does a related party exist 

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 It's okay that you don't havea legal ground. The foundation of lawis

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 whether you admit it ornot.ladmit.lam willing to

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 If you ask me whether lam willing to pay or not.

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· lam willing to payand sois my enterprise. Then why wouldlam sued?

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 rather thespecial investigation team The ultimate reason is not me,but

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 The Public Security Bureau seized all our properties

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as they are related to a criminal case subject to force majeure. 

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Criminal cases weigh heavier than economic cases. This is the law of China. ·

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 This is an unfinished criminal case in the U.S

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 case in the US.lsn't thisajoke? You brought alawsuit foran economic

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 In turn,the Dalian case is even more ridiculous.

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The trial is claimed to be done in accordance with the lawwhich is unprecedented. 

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This is a notion tailor-made for Guo Wengui. 

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becomes kidnapping in accordance with the law.  This trial in accordance with the law now

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 thatitis in line with standard procedures At the same time, you try to convince me

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 To me

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thisis like in a brothel.Iwould say that the  relationship between officials and the bosses

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is the same as the relationship between a brothel and pimps. 

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 Now the pimp asks aprostitute towearaveil

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and a wedding dress 

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You have to show me the feeling of a virgin getting married.' 

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 Then everyone has to applaud.

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 Everyone knows that the pimp and the prostitute perform a fake show.

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 There is not such a thing as a virgin getting married.

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 Can you simply arrange a marriage by going to nightclub

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 and give a prostitute a red veil to put on

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 Thisisajoke

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Isee that my employees are sentenced to jail for three more months. 

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Then look at the inside of the detention  centre,don't they act like hooligans

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The Deputy Mayor Liu Leguo of the Dalian Security Bureau 

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Dalian took money from Founder in Beijing and the special investigation team of 

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 Then put our employees in shackles and hit them like that.

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They also forced all of our directors to resign 

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The listed company,now only has one director, Peking University 

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 and no minority shareholders

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 Have you ever heard of that kind of listed conglomerate?

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 This is the product by the Public Security Bureau of Dalian.

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So the dark caseof the Public Security Bureau of Dalian 

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the Procuratorate and the Court  and the Dalian Public Security organs,

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 willdefinitely be revealed from my case slowly

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 No matter how arrogant you are today

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 Liu Leguo and the case of the Dalian special investigation team

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as well as the illegal acts of the Public Security Bureau of Dalian will definitely be punished one day 

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 If Zhou Yongkang was not arrested, would you be able to stay in the positions

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 of the public security organs,the procuratorates and the courts for your entire life

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 The way you treat my employees is so inhuman Our Lu Tao.

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Hiswife went to visit yesterday 

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 You know Lu Tao was arrested when his wife was stillpregnant

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 He has't seen his daughter for two and a half years already

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jail for two years and three months more Despite this situation he was sentenced to 

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And he continued to be kept in custody.  No visit is allowed for these three months

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 In the end his wife's hair turned all grey

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 and she went to the airport in tears

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 Isn't it too much to torture him for three more months?

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 Kidnappingmyemployee

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is to tell me to be practical and shut up 

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 This is typical governing the country with gangs and the police.

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 This is why the Seven Principles of Guo suggests opposing governing the country with gangs

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· and the police. Speaking of which,let me tell you Xiaoping

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Ihave to make a long-winded talk.Ihave talked about the Tunisia case in another day 

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 In this Tunisia caser

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 the president Zine EI Abidine Ben Ali and his son-in-law called Sakher EI Materi,

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 and his prime minister called Mohamed Ghannouchi

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 and the dead hawker called Mohamed Bouazizi

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What was its biggest issue The economy was booming. 

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It was also becoming more democratic 

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Allofasudden,a revolution took place. 

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The reason was simple. Because the condolence fee was raised from 0.7%to7%. 0.77%

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government when the economy is good?  Furtherare people satisfied with the

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 No.

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 People want even more dignity and safety at this time.

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 However,in that country, his son-in-law Sakher EI Materi was crazy.

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The president's wife was called Leila. 

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I have met with all of these people.

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 We discussed about lots of cooperation

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 They adopt the same approach as Chinese public security organs,the procuratorates and the courts.

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 like complete falsehood,cheating Rule by Gang'Rule by the Police'

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Governing the country with theats is indeed governing the country with gangs.

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Increasing number of cases left people in fear 

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Then when the economy was developing 

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there was serious corruption by the leader's family  

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 With the Anti-corruption by Corrupted Officials,

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together with the Minister of Justice,he threatened the others 

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 In the end,it came the Bouazizi incident WhatistheBouazizi incident about

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It's about judging his case in accordance with the law 

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 What's really relevant to my case isin accordance with the law

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 As the hawker sold goods illegally.

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has no such thing as by law'before  ruling by law was required. Since there

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 a trial against Bouazizi by law

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 was the correct action.

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 Finally this child committed suicide and it led to riots afterwards.Why

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Because the market had never been managed by law 

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 so the upholding of law made things unfair.

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 My incident and the Tunisia incident are similar.

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Now Guo Wengui is being handled by law 

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 and forced to become Bouazizi Maybe you can commit suicide?

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 However,how to rule Guo Wengui by law if he commits suicide?

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· Before,our authority has never act in accordance with the law before

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Li You's case was not brought to an  open trial and was released at the court

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to the staff He was released right away He was acquitted. Then nothing happened 

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and continued to enjoy life. He ate the police's food when he was in custody. 

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 Fine,nOw,the staff of Guo Wengui were brought to open trial in accordance with the law.

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A week later,the trial was done accordance with law 

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 They were sent to the hotel after the judgement. They would stay there for three months.

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Who are you trying to deceive The whole processis a kidnapping 

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They take the chance to hinder Guo Wengui  and await the chance to get rid of Guo Wengui

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The villain's ambition is obvious 

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 You ask be me to trust you. Everyone says:

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confidence in the party and the country.  Guo Wengui you have to have

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A leader said:you have contributions to the country. 

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lama pig How can this be possible  You try to cheat Guo Wengui. Do you think

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According to your performance yesterday 

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 how could you let my staff to be kept in custody for three months?

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IfIwas abad guy 

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Iwould not care about my staff being  put in a custody for three months.

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 You keep them in the hotel and do not allow them to see others

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 ls that what you you call governing the country in accordance with the law

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This is called the Rule of Guo by Law and by Gang 

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and the attack against Guo with gangs.  This is the same as the Tunisia incident

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 Your Rule ofGuoby Law'

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 indeed isRule of GuobyGang

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since you have never acted by law 

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 Why Guo Wengui talked about these

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You heard that  have been making phone calls since this morning 

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lam in a fury for this.lwas deceived seriously ·

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lwas insulted seriously.Iwas framed up seriously 

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Therefore Liu Leguo 

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from the Public Security Bureau of Dalian and yourpolicemen,please doremember 

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all the evils you committed todayour people  willdefinitely ask you to account for them.

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They will not be forgotten 

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Together with the New York case,

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including those people who go to UK to frame up  my accounts nowand those make it in Hong Kong

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 All your ideas are rubbish,why

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 You have been investigating whetherlam guilty or not for three years.

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The facts have proved that lam not guilty 

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and society finds me guilty of anything  None of the evidences from the people

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You do not dare to day I've committed any crimes. You traveled abroad to harass,

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entangle and then transfer my experience 

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and await a chance to attack and exterminate me.

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To the contrary you made me the new president of the 18th National Congress of Communist Party 

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Your attack just makes me even more successful every time 

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 Like the network outage just now,it's great that you cutit off

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 This proved how great our technology is. Can you cutit off

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 Aminor outage just next door.

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57 This is the 57 section,the Mingjing office is just next door

480
00:25:07,420 --> 00:25:09,040
lt became such a big incident in the end. 

481
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,040
Therefore Xiaoping,their stupid action just makes me more famous 

482
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,920
more successful and more important every time 

483
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,210
 including the caselam sued in New York

484
00:25:18,290 --> 00:25:21,080
 allthe U.S.lawyers are now interested in this.

485
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,960
Miles They said Miles,Ican represent you for free.

486
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,500
Isaid:sorry,my private lawyeris David Boies. DavidBoies

487
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:29,040
Tungwould never see him in your life  This old gentleman is so great.YouKelvin

488
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,120
 without Guo Wengui. You can't even meet this gentleman

489
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,710
 where would youbeable tomeet himright

490
00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:37,040
 l bring many opportunities to lots of people this time when lam here.

491
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,170
As Guo Wengui verifies whois the bad guy 

492
00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:42,670
 who is the good guywhois a capable man and who is not.

493
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:46,170
Through this series of lawsuit and the show following them 

494
00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:48,880
you will knowin the end,like Boxunlsaid at that time that 

495
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,120
he would be arrested.Will he be arrested? 

496
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:52,250
Iwillbe liable for that if not. 

497
00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:55,750
He will surely be arrested. Then Kelvin will definitely fail. 

498
00:25:55,750 --> 00:26:03,210
 Pang Shiyi and Ms. Hu Shuli will definitely fail

499
00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:07,080
and that would befun,Mr.Xiaoping Therefore we have to look at the result 

500
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,920
 So we can stop talking about the cases here.

501
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,750
616 Airight,let us go back to the day of the 16th of June

502
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:18,550
Why did you fix such an important day 

503
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,290
16 for the third interview on the 16th

504
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:24,620
 Before our network outager

505
00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:27,460
lwas just about to begin. Some viewers  pointed out very precisely that the broadcast

506
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:28,880
 was cut off suddenly after one minute and a few seconds.

507
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,460
616 lwas going to ask you about the day of 16th of June.

508
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,500
616 You have repeated that you

509
00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:36,540
 would show everyone an entire different scene on 16th of June

510
00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:39,580
of the heart and exercise their bodies and asked everyone to mind their health 

511
00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:41,830
soas to prepare for the day 616·

512
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:44,960
make a major personal decision on that day  Some Internet friends guessed you would

513
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,170
 which is relevant to your future political direction

514
00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:50,210
616 So can you explain to us briefly

515
00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:51,880
 about the plan for the 16th of June?

516
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:58,330
Mr Xiaoping generally there are three 616 reasons to choose the 16th of June.

517
00:26:58,420 --> 00:27:01,170
612 The election of the new president of the investment committee

518
00:27:01,170 --> 00:27:05,420
 of our fund will be held on the 12th of June.

519
00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:09,330
 Because a red notice has been issued illegally against me,

520
00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:11,830
although it would not affect my investment status in the company 

521
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,960
 the relationship between the investors and manager is affected from the legal perspective

522
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,540
Ishould resign voluntarily 

523
00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:22,710
 from the position of the president of the investment Committee

524
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:25,620
as this isa legal defect and there isa risk 

525
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:30,580
12 been communicating with Beijing authority So for the meeting held on the 12th,I had

526
00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:33,120
Isaid,lf you are fine with thisissue, 

527
00:27:33,210 --> 00:27:34,830
then you cancel it for me. 

528
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,120
double checking and following the procedures  They agreed and said they would cancel it after

529
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,120
different from what Mr.Zhang Lifan said  The second one,it is also totally

530
00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:46,290
10 We said that I would be willing to use one billion US dollars

531
00:27:46,330 --> 00:27:48,420
to sue the International Criminal Police Organization. 

532
00:27:49,237 --> 00:27:52,525
We sued them on the day we said so.

533
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:55,000
10 However whetherl could spend a billion dollar was not decided by me.

534
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,040
10 so why would you need to spend that one billion They should have said,I would cancel it for you

535
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,830
 That would be a description as well as my determination.

536
00:28:01,225 --> 00:28:03,500
According to my understanding, I am the first Chinese

537
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,750
to sue the International Criminal Police Organization. They accepted this thing 

538
00:28:08,790 --> 00:28:12,000
Ihave also talked about this in my last live video 

539
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040
The US'CIA and FBI in International Criminal Police Organization CIAFBI

540
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,750
 were withdrawn at the Lyon headquarter

541
00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:20,250
 just because Meng Hongwei was appointed the president

542
00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:23,380
Further,all their red notices against me concerned many countries 

543
00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:26,790
 After we filed alawsuit.

544
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,750
 they've been in touch with us

545
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:31,790
 We've started to discuss this again now

546
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,000
12 notice will be lifted by the 12th will decide What this means is that whether the red

547
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,540
whetherI can be the president 

548
00:28:38,540 --> 00:28:41,170
Of course Beijing adapted the same strategy. 

549
00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:42,420
At the same time,they promised me 

550
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,880
12 but didn't lift the red notice forme on the 12th

551
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,040
 Ithought that my role as the president of the investment committee wasover.

552
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,250
 Actually it does not affectmy economics,

553
00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:53,170
but it affects my status in the economic sector. 

554
00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:55,790
 At the same time,our management fee may be downsized.

555
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:59,830
Because our management fee is set at10%. 10%

556
00:29:00,170 --> 00:29:04,080
600 The first phase of our fund valued over USD60 billion.

557
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080
The second phase is USD120 billion. This is about a huge amount of money 1200

558
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,790
that we can receive in the coming 8 years 8

559
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,380
lt will also contribute greatly to the science  and technology sector of the world.

560
00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:15,540
 Our investors include several sovereign funds.

561
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:17,710
So in the morning of the 12th 12

562
00:29:17,790 --> 00:29:20,880
 our lawyers suggested a video conference.

563
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120
 He reminded me that lam entrusted to open

564
00:29:24,525 --> 00:29:27,575
so... I was moved. I am quite emotional.

565
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,120
Pleasecalm down 

566
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,170
 You are right. Frankly trembled allover

567
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000
 when Itook a bath in the morning after waking up.

568
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,790
lwore new clothes and prepared to be presented in the video. 

569
00:29:39,790 --> 00:29:43,080
 My wife said Iwas awake a few time last night.I didn't sleepwell.

570
00:29:43,325 --> 00:29:45,600
I was said that I had nifhtmares. she said I saw you had nightmares.

571
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,500
 IndeedI didn't tell her the truth.

572
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:49,670
Icouldn't let her know how much lcare 

573
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,080
WhenI was about to go up. 

574
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,420
 Mylawyer calledme.

575
00:29:53,420 --> 00:29:57,250
He asked me to check my email first. Then Ichecked my email. e-maile-mail

576
00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:58,830
 He said that l would tell you two newsi

577
00:29:58,830 --> 00:30:00,330
one was good while the otherwas bad. 

578
00:30:00,330 --> 00:30:04,080
 Solasked him what the bad news was. He said that the bad news was that

579
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,540
you have to worked for the investors for eight years. 

580
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:11,540
The good news was,we nine people,including me 9

581
00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:14,580
8 all recommended Mr. Guo Wengui

582
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,075
regarding our final evaluation on your previous work,

583
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,580
your legal capabilitymoral integrity and ability 

584
00:30:20,580 --> 00:30:24,880
we would like you to continue to be the president. This really shocked me. 

585
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,040
 So the plan of these traitor who take the country property

586
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,210
their strategy of discussing killing and cheating at the same time, 

587
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,330
 wasa total failure.

588
00:30:36,875 --> 00:30:39,350
Then 16th is a key date.

589
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,210
The U.S.authorities concerned have talked to me many times 

590
00:30:42,210 --> 00:30:46,500
You can see that the security outside has heightened 

591
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,500
 because their various sources have informed that

592
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,710
 the nation traitors would use various ways to hurt me

593
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,120
and be detrimental to my safety 

594
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:58,580
in the U.S.andlam also a U.S.taxpayer.  Then the U.S.knows that l have investments

595
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,120
 This is why earlier when the people from Beijing came to speak tome. 1

596
00:31:03,170 --> 00:31:05,000
 The U.S.took such extreme measures

597
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,250
 because according the law of the U.S. they mustprotect mebysuch measures.

598
00:31:07,330 --> 00:31:09,500
They had to make application at that time. 

599
00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:10,670
 You may not knowthat

600
00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:14,750
of the Upper East District of New York City  they applied for a court order to the court

601
00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:15,960
 for execution.

602
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,830
 In other words,when this senior leader came and met with mer

603
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Ididn't even know about it But the U.S. government knew already 

604
00:31:22,830 --> 00:31:24,250
 What does this mean?

605
00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:27,380
 Someone from the most senior level of China betrayed them

606
00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:29,710
 andlknew nothing about this.

607
00:31:29,710 --> 00:31:32,120
 What was the actual visa he got when he came

608
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,250
 Solshowed him right after he came into the house.

609
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,710
 Because before he came in,someone on hisplane

610
00:31:37,710 --> 00:31:39,290
Istill do not know who it is, 

611
00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:43,670
sent me a document saying that this person brought three people 

612
00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:46,080
 The four of them would come to you

613
00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:50,620
 Then they were not against you only. Some one else also went to Washington.

614
00:31:50,620 --> 00:31:52,500
The third measure was that someone tried to get rid of me secretly 

615
00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:55,420
 got information about this in advance. So the U.S.government actually had

616
00:31:55,420 --> 00:31:59,250
Iwas the only one who didn't know.Then  the incident concerning Mr.Hepin happened.

617
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:01,540
 Your Mr. Hepin did not hold back any regarding that little stuff

618
00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:04,000
 This leads to a state of turmoil.

619
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:06,330
Ihave no ideas where he got the messages 

620
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:07,960
 So when that thing was exposed

621
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,040
greater concern for me. To put it clearly the U.S.government has even shown ·

622
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,170
 nobody can talk to you in the U.S.or threaten you

623
00:32:15,250 --> 00:32:16,710
 and you are the friend of the U.S.

624
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:18,040
You are also a taxpayer of the U.S 

625
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:21,170
 Therefore the U.S. has given my entire family a scheme

626
00:32:21,775 --> 00:32:25,450
where they would give us passports and asylum.

627
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,380
16 The deadline is the 16th.

628
00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:33,170
 You either accept this U.S.protection proposal or not.

629
00:32:33,170 --> 00:32:36,000
 If you accept the protection proposal you whole family would become the U.S.citizens.

630
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,790
 Then the family in China,

631
00:32:37,790 --> 00:32:41,830
they would need to go and protect.Sincelmy case is an extremely special political incident, 

632
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,040
 the relevant authorities of the US government. and we went through all the legal procedures of

633
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,670
Forthis reason,I have to make a major decision on the 16th. 16

634
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,710
If I take that step, that means Iresume my American citizenship 

635
00:32:55,710 --> 00:32:59,120
 and so do my familyaslused to be an American.

636
00:32:59,170 --> 00:33:01,500
 That must be a significant political issue between the two countries.

637
00:33:02,420 --> 00:33:04,790
Since this is not only applicable to me,butmywholefamily 

638
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,000
 basically to all thepeopleIrequested for.

639
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,960
To my whole family and also the senior management of our company 

640
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,750
 This will be a big political issue between the two countries.

641
00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:15,420
In factIdo not want to take this way 

642
00:33:15,420 --> 00:33:17,880
 since it would not be good to both countries

643
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,290
and it will be extremely complicateo 

644
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:24,210
16 and significant. Solhope that they can help me solve the problem

645
00:33:24,290 --> 00:33:26,580
of my asset before the 16th 

646
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:29,330
 in custody and their family members And also the problem of allmy staff

647
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:32,710
 and the problem of my red notice.If you can solve that

648
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:35,250
lam not willing to take that step.However 

649
00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:38,040
 there are things l have to clarify now

650
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,210
lt has been only more than 10 days since the new leader took over 

651
00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:45,080
 With regard to his intensity of coordination, and there was a weekend in between.

652
00:33:45,575 --> 00:33:50,250
the result of the coordination surpresses that was done over the past three years.

653
00:33:50,540 --> 00:33:53,250
He makes a lot of efforts However heis not the General Secretary 

654
00:33:53,290 --> 00:33:55,830
nor Secretary of Political and Legal Affairs  Commission.When he coordinates

655
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,290
 he has to coordinate with various departments.

656
00:33:57,330 --> 00:34:00,170
Forexample the Dalian incident was definitely not something he could've expected. 

657
00:34:00,250 --> 00:34:03,040
 Dalian ignored him and didnt accept his deal.

658
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,540
 Given the interests of Dalian and Founder Securities,

659
00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:10,460
and Legal Affairs Commission of Dalian  Liu Leguo,the Mayor and Secretary of Political

660
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,040
and other interested and political groups, 

661
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,330
 don't accept the coordination of the new leader.

662
00:34:15,525 --> 00:34:17,025
therefore he must threaten you Guo Wengui

663
00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:19,290
 and take revenge against you. 

664
00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:21,750
They have private contact with other nation traitors at the same time. 

665
00:34:21,790 --> 00:34:24,460
This implies that this new leader has to coordinate. 

666
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:25,790
 I'm not a hundred percent sure about this

667
00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:30,169
 But he is now the only person representing our Chinese Government

668
00:34:30,210 --> 00:34:32,620
 to communicate with me.I can only count on him.

669
00:34:32,669 --> 00:34:35,879
lam very thankful and satisfied with his coordination 

670
00:34:36,125 --> 00:34:41,475
He was new ways of thinking and new ideas and is very open.

671
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,750
Heis very nice and has normal human feelings and passion 

672
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:45,080
 Irespect him very much.

673
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,210
But lam really not sure whether the thing can be moved on that way 

674
00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:51,169
Like before the live broadcast todaylwas given a bunch of requests. 

675
00:34:51,830 --> 00:34:52,620
 You saw that yesterday

676
00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:53,790
 When you came to prepare,90%of the content about

677
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:58,250
90% Wu Zong was taken out by me like whatldid at the second live broadcast.

678
00:34:58,290 --> 00:35:02,170
 You can see all our information stored in our computer.

679
00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:03,210
 Youcansee our.

680
00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:04,420
 Stayed up for the entire night.

681
00:35:04,420 --> 00:35:07,210
 We stayed up for the whole night.Let me show you this.

682
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:16,250
We can shock the world by just showing  any two pages of the document.

683
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:19,250
Then we followed the new leader's request yesterday 

684
00:35:19,650 --> 00:35:22,050
we would not mention the names of these leaders.

685
00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:24,500
We won't expand the scope 

686
00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:25,920
 We have done everything he requested.

687
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,710
 But under this circumstance

688
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:30,210
we were tricked again by the Dalian public trial. 

689
00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:34,080
 told me not to trust our government. 100%of the people on the Internet

690
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,120
 Do not trust any representatives from the government.

691
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,250
 You can see all these New York twists,

692
00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:43,540
 dirty methods,like hacking into my Twitter account

693
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:48,380
 My biggest challenge is whether l should trust them or not.

694
00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:51,380
This is my major bewilderment.Ichose to trust them yesterday 

695
00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:53,620
16 Thatis why ltalked to the US government

696
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:57,500
 officially over the phone for 3 hours on the 16th.

697
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:01,210
5 We,the U.S. government officials andl,

698
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:03,330
made a deal at around half past five. 

699
00:36:03,460 --> 00:36:03,580
717 They gave me one more month to the 17th of July

700
00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:07,460
They gave me one more month to the 17th of July 717

701
00:36:08,290 --> 00:36:12,080
Ihave to make a decision on whetherl will  accept it or not. There is no second chance.

702
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:14,710
That's why I'lI have to solve this problem by the 17th of July 717

703
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:20,540
 So we will now take actions as promised.

704
00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:25,000
If the problem cannot be solved,I'Il definitely accept the US proposal. 

705
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,120
 meanwhile,my requests are very simple My whole family will take US passports.And

706
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120
 -the Seven Principles of Guo

707
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:34,920
Iwant to ask a question here. You said you would resume US citizenship 

708
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,880
 and you were a US citizen before.

709
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,460
 Yes.lwasaUS citizen. And I renounced that.

710
00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:40,710
z And ljust resume it now.

711
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:43,170
Oh!Renounced!Okay,please continue. 

712
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:45,580
family.ButwhenIsaid mywhole family  We have 3 members in my direct

713
00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:46,250
 family.But whenl said my whole family We have 3 members in my direct

714
00:36:46,290 --> 00:36:48,330
Imean that the entire extended family of over 100 members. 

715
00:36:49,173 --> 00:36:51,750
Approximately 60 of them are the second and third generations,

716
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,330
which do not include the uncles. ·

717
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,500
That's why the 16th is very important. 16

718
00:36:58,580 --> 00:37:00,580
 But when you look at where things are going

719
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,790
 I really have no idea what will happen in the next minute.

720
00:37:04,225 --> 00:37:05,725
That's why I have taken away 99% of the secrets

721
00:37:06,460 --> 00:37:09,540
99 that l planned to reveal today.

722
00:37:09,580 --> 00:37:13,540
 I've promised the new leader that l will try my best not to reveal any secret

723
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:15,210
that would make them feel uncomfortable  However,theyalso promised methat

724
00:37:15,725 --> 00:37:17,975
they would not oppose me to cintinue to use the Twitter and YouTube.

725
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,380
 They would not oppose me to propose the Seven principlesof Guocontinuously

726
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:28,830
proposing  Rule by Law'on the internet. They would not oppose me to keep on 

727
00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:32,790
 This is extremely important We corporate with them with conditions.

728
00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:34,210
lagreed with that.Ibelieve this is for a good cause. 

729
00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:36,670
 We need a revolution which is against the country

730
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:38,830
I'm not like what Mr Zhang Lifan said thatweshould against the emperor. 

731
00:37:38,830 --> 00:37:41,620
Idon't propose these ideas.I fully  respect the Seven Principles of Guo.

732
00:37:41,830 --> 00:37:43,210
But how things develop 

733
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:47,080
government. Thank you Mr Xiaoping  is not up to me. lt depends on the Chinese

734
00:37:49,210 --> 00:37:53,120
· What you have just said includes quite a lot of information. Let me ask one question first

735
00:37:53,170 --> 00:37:57,210
 During the broadcast of Mr Hepin in early June in the 1st June video

736
00:37:57,210 --> 00:38:02,750
614 he mentioned that 4 people came to New York.

737
00:38:02,830 --> 00:38:09,580
Discipline Inspection of Public Security Bureau, Liu Yanping 4 These 4 people were led by the Secretary of Commission for

738
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:13,210
officials at John F.Kennedy International Airport  They were stopped by the US enforcement

739
00:38:13,710 --> 00:38:16,120
4 This incident,the 4 people's incident

740
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,080
 was mentioned by Mr Hepin.Was it really the case?

741
00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:22,170
 Did they come to the U.S.to contact you

742
00:38:22,210 --> 00:38:25,670
 or did they come to threaten youor if they want to deport you after consulting US government

743
00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:28,330
 Can you explain this briefly to us?

744
00:38:28,330 --> 00:38:31,420
 Okay.Thanks Mr Xiaoping. This was a very complicated issue.

745
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:35,750
 First of allthis incident was definitely real.

746
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,000
 Butl can't say who were involved.

747
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,580
It was because it was this senior leader  who sent my wife and daughter tome.

748
00:38:45,830 --> 00:38:49,080
This already got him into trouble 

749
00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:52,000
Ifeel very bad for this Because of this incident.. 

750
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,250
 Personally,Iwould like to express my deep gratitude to him

751
00:38:57,330 --> 00:38:59,420
 andI think he mostly meant well.

752
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,540
 But after allhe bears some ideas and

753
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:05,960
goals of the organization and even the traitors. 

754
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,710
I'm impersonal about this 

755
00:39:09,790 --> 00:39:12,460
In terms of personal feelings,Ican never give out his  name nor describe the details since the consequences

756
00:39:12,580 --> 00:39:17,420
would be so much more serious than you can imagine. ,

757
00:39:17,420 --> 00:39:19,670
 Simplyput,Iwas also very surprised.

758
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:21,750
Because the scariest thing at the time 

759
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:26,170
was that the US government invited me to a meeting. 

760
00:39:26,210 --> 00:39:29,880
Then when l got back,they wanted to  meet me again immediately at my home.

761
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,330
leave.I had no idea what was going on. Then he suddenly said he had to 

762
00:39:32,460 --> 00:39:34,620
In fact,it was because his visa had been destroyed 

763
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:37,880
the day before due to their meeting with me. 

764
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:42,580
He was ordered to leave the country within 24 hours. This is to sayhe was deported. 24

765
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960
meeting and then returned to New York But he went to Washington DC fora 

766
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,620
Ididn't know about it. 

767
00:39:47,850 --> 00:39:49,350
so he said he had to leave at 1 pm.

768
00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:51,420
11 He arrived at my home at 11:30am.

769
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,210
We had a simple lunch. ThenI went downstairs to walk him out 

770
00:39:55,210 --> 00:39:59,080
We used our police car to drive him to the airport 

771
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,330
 because there were security guards.

772
00:40:00,830 --> 00:40:03,880
At the moment he left,a group of people 

773
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,250
 from the US government surrounded me.

774
00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:10,920
 They asked me,Did these people threaten you

775
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,540
If they did,they will be sentenced to jail for 10 years. 10

776
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,380
 There's no controversy

777
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:20,540
As long as you say anything 

778
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:22,420
 you will bear responsibilities.i said no.

779
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,920
So he successfully went to the airport. 

780
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,210
The police called me a few times to ask me the same question and Ionly said no 

781
00:40:28,210 --> 00:40:28,880
ifisaid yesn 

782
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,290
 he would definitely not be able to leave.

783
00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:32,880
Icontacted him again when he was boarding 

784
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,500
 I hoped he would get on the plane and leave as soon as possible.

785
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:36,500
 But then they stopped him at the airport

786
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:38,460
 they took all his electronic devices.

787
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:40,920
 Things like his cellphone and laptops were all taken away

788
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,670
 which was unpleasant.

789
00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:45,750
They let him board 

790
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:47,790
but they still called and asked me the same question. 

791
00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:50,330
lf you tell us now that he threatened you 

792
00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:52,670
 we will stop the plane and not let him leave.

793
00:40:52,670 --> 00:40:55,540
Isaid no.So this incident surprised me a lot. 

794
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:57,290
 What kind of typical example is this?

795
00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:02,880
 It shows fierce disputes among the internal political spectrum in China.

796
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,830
 Even before he arrived in the US,they had already applied for a court warrant in the US.

797
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,880
 lwas summoned to the court yesterday. This was the third time.

798
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,920
 The court asked me to testify on this case.lt's not over yet

799
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,540
 You can go to the court to check on this case.

800
00:41:16,670 --> 00:41:19,000
 You know the US lawis very strict

801
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,750
FB is not allowed to touch such acase Even the enforcement agency like FBI

802
00:41:23,830 --> 00:41:25,460
without a permission from the court 

803
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:28,960
 asked about what happened that day So,the court asked me to testify and

804
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,880
to find out if there was anything wrong with their questions, 

805
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,290
orif they did recording 

806
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:36,920
 as recording or taking notes in the US is considered illegal.

807
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,620
 They also asked me to testify yesterday to find out

808
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:42,290
which senior members of the CPC made such descion 

809
00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:44,880
This is a court decision The court decides, 

810
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,880
 if one violates the civil interests,

811
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,040
 breaks the law or commits a crime in the US.

812
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080
 which Ihad already reported this to Beijing The consequences can be very serious

813
00:41:52,375 --> 00:41:56,100
But Beijing competely ignore this. But this is something very important.

814
00:41:56,460 --> 00:41:57,620
 Another thing is that

815
00:41:57,620 --> 00:42:01,170
 now many government organs want me to clearly explain this incident

816
00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:03,460
government are paying attention to this incident  Because even the highest level of the US

817
00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:07,170
VOA. This,just as the VOV incident,has drawn the attention of the highest level of the US government.

818
00:42:07,290 --> 00:42:10,620
The highest level of the US government would make decision on this 

819
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:13,170
 What's the most worrying part?

820
00:42:13,170 --> 00:42:18,170
happened in Washington and in New York.  This case has led us to various incidents

821
00:42:18,170 --> 00:42:23,420
Ican't tell the details of the case right now 

822
00:42:23,420 --> 00:42:26,500
 but the consequences of which are beyond our control.

823
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:30,380
Idon't how come Mr. He Ping will know 

824
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:32,040
 about this case.

825
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,460
 But he definitely doesn't realize

826
00:42:33,460 --> 00:42:35,830
 the possible serious consequences that it might bring.Beijing didn't realize this either.

827
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,880
This incident exists. The consequences will be very serious 

828
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,580
The trial is still on-going in courtMr.Xiaoping 

829
00:42:42,580 --> 00:42:46,620
 You said the old leader in Shanghai said this incident

830
00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:47,920
aimost led to a war between China and the US. 

831
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,120
This is what you said,just because of this incident 

832
00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:51,080
 Yes.

833
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,620
 This serious?

834
00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:55,290
 Yes.And this incident is still in progress.

835
00:42:55,290 --> 00:42:56,250
lt's not over yet. 

836
00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:57,750
 Not yet.Not overyet 1

837
00:42:57,750 --> 00:43:00,210
 Stillinprogress,vigorously 

838
00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:06,830
 Okay.We hope to hear updates on this incident later

839
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,830
The next question I want to ask is about your family 

840
00:43:11,830 --> 00:43:13,920
There are plenty of hot issues we can discuss 

841
00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:20,040
but lfeel like l should ask about your wife and daughter. 

842
00:43:21,580 --> 00:43:26,040
 They were in custody fora long time. Howis their health doing

843
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,420
 Howis your parents'health

844
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:30,040
 How many family members are still taken into custody

845
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,670
l know your fourth and sixth eldest  brothers have been released,right

846
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:33,460
Is it right that 8 people in your family were taken into custody 8

847
00:43:34,210 --> 00:43:36,250
 Havethey regained their freedom now

848
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,380
And also your employees 

849
00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:42,460
You have always been standing up for your employees'freedom 

850
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,040
As we all knowyou have been standing up for their freedom 

851
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,170
 including those involved in Dalian's trial

852
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:53,580
 How many of your employees have no personal liberty

853
00:43:55,330 --> 00:43:58,790
of youhow many of them are still in jail?  So for those who were arrested because

854
00:43:58,790 --> 00:44:00,960
You should tell us about this 

855
00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:03,920
Technically speaking,16 people are still kept in custody 

856
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,250
including my family members and my employees. 16

857
00:44:06,830 --> 00:44:10,920
12 They were set free 12 hours ago.

858
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,120
Lu Tao,who was sentenced in Dalian,is still kept in the  detention center and he hasn't got his freedom back yet.

859
00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:18,580
Neither have Yang Ying and Xie Hongling 

860
00:44:18,580 --> 00:44:20,210
There are 16 people are still in jail 16

861
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:23,080
Three of my family members are still in jail One of them is Ma Cheng 

862
00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:27,170
our financial vice-president 

863
00:44:27,210 --> 00:44:31,290
 Another one is Sheng Ruigang our financial associate manager.Both of them are kept in jail in Dalian.

864
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:35,750
Another one is my niece,Guo Lijie 

865
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,170
She is kept in jail in Kaifeng together with my other employees 

866
00:44:38,290 --> 00:44:43,750
1817 At the first time,18 family members were arrested.

867
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:46,500
20 But my son escaped in the last 20 minutes

868
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,750
Iwant to thank the friend who helped my son to escape. 

869
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,710
Iwill be grateful for the rest of my life. 

870
00:44:51,790 --> 00:44:54,210
 Ireally don't know who this person is butl will find out

871
00:44:54,580 --> 00:44:59,620
181817 They targeted 18 family member but they only got 17 of them

872
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:03,040
because my son luckily got away 

873
00:45:03,170 --> 00:45:07,330
And there are still 3 of them,among these 17 people,are in jail. 173

874
00:45:07,330 --> 00:45:09,420
together,a totalof 16 people are still in custody 16 With allmy employees and my family members

875
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:11,750
Mr.Xiaoping 

876
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:14,830
you have seen my wife and daughter right? 

877
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:18,460
Yes,I have seen your whole family 

878
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:21,080
 Your son is very handsome,he is taller than you.

879
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,000
 I've also met your daughter and your wife...

880
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,960
 My daughteris a beauty why donit you praise her this?

881
00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:31,420
But she looks gloomy 

882
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,250
 Yes indeed.

883
00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:38,210
Your wife doesn't talk much either. It seems that both of them suffered from great trauma. 

884
00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:39,380
 Enormous trauma.

885
00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:43,540
and put them all over on yourpiano.  She has folded a lot of paper cranes

886
00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:47,750
Iwanted to take a picture of them last night. 

887
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:49,290
But the photo was not good,perhaps because l didn't get enough lighting 

888
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:51,960
of the paper cranes on the piano again. When the showis over,I will takeaphotc 

889
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,290
They cover the entire piano right 

890
00:45:55,420 --> 00:46:00,920
daughter's health as your son is in a better condition  Actuallylcare mostly about your wife's and

891
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,960
I'm very concerned with your wife's and daughter's health 

892
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,710
Isaw your wife last time.lam very concerned with her health. 

893
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:09,460
 And at the mean time there are rumors about them regarding this.

894
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:12,080
 What T really wantto say

895
00:46:12,170 --> 00:46:14,880
 is that they do need some time to recover

896
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:19,830
This is probably also why you don't want them to show up publicly 

897
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:25,880
Thank you,Mr. Xiaoping. The main reason why  my wife and daughter don't show upin public

898
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,080
is that my wife is a typical housewife 

899
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:32,580
 And my daughter is a very low-profile person and doesn't want to appear in public

900
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:38,775
More importantly, my daughter was put in jail twice bacause of this incident.

901
00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:40,880
 All four of us were put in jail

902
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,710
2014 Myson was put injail by Fu Zhenghua in 2014.

903
00:46:43,710 --> 00:46:44,580
 He managed to escape.

904
00:46:44,580 --> 00:46:48,170
My daughter was put in jail twice. My wife was once kept in prison 

905
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:49,500
 AndIwas put in prison for several times.

906
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,120
 The four of us were all once jailed.

907
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:58,290
 In Lenin's words,we are all complete.All of us werejailed

908
00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:03,330
 We all were jailed.We are all complete,but we paid a big price forit.

909
00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:08,120
 Last nightshe waited for long for the Dalian trial to end for the verdict.

910
00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:10,210
She usually goes to bed earlyat 9pm. 9

911
00:47:10,210 --> 00:47:12,420
 But she kept waiting and waiting last night, until the verdict was given.

912
00:47:12,460 --> 00:47:14,330
Whenl got back 

913
00:47:14,330 --> 00:47:16,040
Isaw her crying in the washroom. 

914
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:19,420
Ididn't know how to comfort her sollet hercry. 

915
00:47:19,460 --> 00:47:22,250
She cried because she knew that Yang Ying 

916
00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:27,380
Xie Hongling and Lu Tao couldn't get back home. 

917
00:47:27,380 --> 00:47:29,960
 She treats them like family members

918
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,420
 She sees every employee of mine like a family member.

919
00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:34,790
 that Lu Tao will stay in custody for another 3 months. She just kept crying and crying. My daughter knew

920
00:47:34,830 --> 00:47:37,500
 Both of my daughter and son are now in the UK

921
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:41,790
they were also very sad about the verdict. Aslsaid  before, Lu Tao hasn't even met his new born child.

922
00:47:42,330 --> 00:47:44,960
 about this but they are still in the UK My son and daughter were very sad

923
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,750
 Both of my wife and daughter are psychologically and physically hurt

924
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:54,620
28 My daughteris worse. She's already 28 years old but

925
00:47:54,620 --> 00:47:56,170
she's physically abnormal 

926
00:47:56,210 --> 00:48:00,250
from nightmares 6or 7 times a night.  Same as my wife. My wife wakes up

927
00:48:00,550 --> 00:48:02,975
Sometimes when we are having meals and suddenly there is a knock on the door,

928
00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:05,420
my daughter will drop whatever she  is holding in her hands onto the table.

929
00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:05,960
 She is frightened.

930
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,380
 Yes,she is.

931
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:10,330
 So they are suffering from serious trauma.

932
00:48:10,330 --> 00:48:13,080
Mr.Zhang Lifan and Mr. He Ping suspect my wife and daughter. 

933
00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:15,080
 This is a great disrespect to me

934
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,880
because my family has sacrificed too much for them. 

935
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,750
Iwould never talk nonsense about my wife and daughter 

936
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:22,000
 Thisis commonsense.

937
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:27,710
conditions and suffer from severe psychological blows Somy wife and daughter are in terrible physical 

938
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:30,960
My employees are even in more horrible conditions than my family 

939
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,790
Guo Qiang, Guo Mei and my wife weren't jailed for that long 

940
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:36,620
 But some of my employees have been jailed for over 2 years

941
00:48:36,750 --> 00:48:41,290
To this day,I think this case has no more consciences,let alone rule by law 

942
00:48:41,420 --> 00:48:47,500
 Thisisajoke,Mr. Xiaoping

943
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,000
 Okaywewill ask some other questions now.

944
00:48:55,330 --> 00:48:57,710
Iheard that you havea three-year plan. 

945
00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:00,460
I'm very curious about it 

946
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:02,290
 Can you introduce your whole three-year plan to the audience please

947
00:49:03,562 --> 00:49:07,475
You said "five me three years."

948
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,250
Thethree-year plan. 

949
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:11,710
When many people are arguing overif you  are saying something true or false,some

950
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:14,960
 also say we should not argue about this now

951
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,290
 and give Mr. Guo three years. So the three-year plan is a mystery now

952
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:22,290
I hope you can tell us about it today 

953
00:49:22,830 --> 00:49:24,170
Sure.Thank youMr.Xiaoping 

954
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:30,040
The three-year plan is based on my experienceoverthepastthree years 28

955
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,380
 and what happened in the past 28 years.

956
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:37,880
It is based on a general evaluation of my views towards life and belief. 

957
00:49:38,330 --> 00:49:43,710
It is based on my worldviews too. 

958
00:49:43,830 --> 00:49:49,670
 Solhave made a few evaluations expectations and goals for the future.

959
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:53,960
Ican't tell you what I want to utter the most here 

960
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,710
OK Okay!Youcantalkaboutthatlater

961
00:49:55,710 --> 00:50:00,120
 I might not talk about it later either.Who should tell itthen

962
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,120
I think l should let all Twitter friends and Chinese folks talk. 

963
00:50:05,380 --> 00:50:10,500
If someone actually wants to do something good,he will not let others know in advanced,what's thepoint 

964
00:50:10,540 --> 00:50:13,920
 If you want to let others know,there are only two intentions behind:

965
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,170
to ask people for help and to ask them for financial support. 

966
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:18,210
 This must be the case.

967
00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:22,790
Or you're using other people to help you cheat others out of money. 

968
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,330
Ihave thought about this clearly 

969
00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:26,830
I don't need anyone's help for what lwant to achieve 

970
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Idon't need any help 

971
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,120
lt's also impossible for anyone to help me. 

972
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,710
 What l want to do is way more than the Guo's Seven Principles

973
00:50:38,330 --> 00:50:41,040
 Ihave given it a lot of thought. Let me give you one simple example

974
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:47,540
32 Ihave been with my wife for32 years, Ihave everything that a man wants to possess:

975
00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:51,000
Ihave got a daughter and ason,my parents are still well and alive. 

976
00:50:51,620 --> 00:50:53,290
 The buildingsl builtfrom Yuda,

977
00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:55,830
Pangu Plaza, Houhai to South Bay 

978
00:50:55,830 --> 00:50:57,460
 they are all some of the most perfect architecture in the world.

979
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,540
Ihave the biggest Airbus in the world. 

980
00:51:03,210 --> 00:51:06,000
lhave the best house, Sherry Netherland,in New York.  Sherry Netherland

981
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,290
Ihave the largest house in Hong Kong 

982
00:51:09,290 --> 00:51:11,040
lalso have houses in Tokyo 

983
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,120
Ihave the best houses in London and in Beijing 

984
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,380
lalso have houses in California and Florida. 

985
00:51:17,380 --> 00:51:19,540
 And have houses in places that I can't tell you.

986
00:51:19,580 --> 00:51:20,580
 Ilike architecture.

987
00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:26,500
buy hundreds of new outfits every year  In terms of fashion,llike looking good.l

988
00:51:26,580 --> 00:51:29,620
 In terms of food,I feel most comfortable now having one meal a day

989
00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:30,830
 Mywife eats two meals aday

990
00:51:30,830 --> 00:51:34,000
Ican't eat more than one meal 

991
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,540
orlfeel uncomfortable 

992
00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:38,620
Ilike tofugreens and pickle vegetables and rice 

993
00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:41,420
I have to keep my body figure too. 

994
00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:42,920
lam not demanding in terms of food 

995
00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:47,750
 In terms of ships. I have the best ships and airplanes in the world.

996
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:50,540
Ihave quite a few yachts 

997
00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:54,580
I have got the best houses,best airplanes, including a yacht that won four global awards. 

998
00:51:54,670 --> 00:51:57,330
 best clothes,best wines...When it comes to wine

999
00:51:57,330 --> 00:51:59,290
 Idon't care about the pricing but only my preferences.

1000
00:51:59,650 --> 00:52:01,150
In terms of material, I have everything.

1001
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:05,040
 Ihave everything as a man.

1002
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:09,120
 Do you think l still care about fame and gain

1003
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,750
 That's impossible.

1004
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:13,750
 What dolcare about?

1005
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:17,420
 It's the real version of Tunisia incident.

1006
00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:20,170
When someone's living standards have improved, 

1007
00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:23,670
 what else he will ask for

1008
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:26,670
 They are dignity and safety.

1009
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:29,880
lalways say the most important thing is safety  This is what l always talk about in my live broadcast.

1010
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,380
Mr. Chen Xiaoping, no matter how rich you are today 

1011
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,420
if you are put into jail tomorrow,  nothing will be meaningful to you at all.

1012
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:42,170
jail,what life means to you Nothing lf you're healthy, but then you're put into 

1013
00:52:42,210 --> 00:52:45,290
 Chairman Mao was right about this:

1014
00:52:45,330 --> 00:52:46,710
 Safety first,production second.

1015
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:49,250
 But he made others unsafe. He made others produce.

1016
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,460
 Safety first,production second,then health and happiness.

1017
00:52:54,825 --> 00:52:56,325
so I reflect on my life. What fo I relly want in my life?

1018
00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:00,080
Ioften chat with my wife about it these days 

1019
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,920
 lask herWhat do you think lshould pursue in thefuture?

1020
00:53:03,380 --> 00:53:07,040
I don't want to have illegitimate child 

1021
00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:09,920
I don't want concubines.I don't throw parties. 

1022
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,620
Idon't like the nameInternet celebrity 

1023
00:53:13,620 --> 00:53:16,080
 In factIdon't like appearing in front ofcameras.There'sno freedom left.

1024
00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:18,460
Ihave no pursuits in terms of material. What dolwant? 

1025
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:22,620
 Ihope there will be moreGuo Wengui among Chinese

1026
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:25,790
to live the disastrous life that Iam living but at the same time,I don't want them 

1027
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
 Ihopethis country tobepowerful.

1028
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,790
Ihope there will be more safety and dignity in this country 

1029
00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:34,880
 Especially for grassroots like us.

1030
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,250
 Can we apply for loans as a private entrepreneur in China

1031
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:40,880
 Can we earn respect from officials?

1032
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,710
lt doesn't matter how rich you are. There's no billionaire in China that I don't know. 

1033
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:49,170
 But we are lower than a pig or a dog in front of a deputy director

1034
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:50,580
 or deputy chief from the government.

1035
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:53,170
 So foreign journalists always say there's collusion

1036
00:53:53,170 --> 00:53:55,120
 between businessmen and government officials in China.

1037
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,750
Iwould sayif there's collusion between businessmen and government officials in China China's GDP willbe over USS10,000 instead of USS6,500.

1038
00:53:58,540 --> 00:54:04,460
46000GDP6300 The GPD per capita of the USis US$46,000 while we have USS6,300.

1039
00:54:04,460 --> 00:54:09,540
1 But when it comes to human dignitythey're 10,000,we are zero.

1040
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,830
ltis not about the comparison of 46,000 460006300 and 6,300.All party members tellme,

1041
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,960
when we reach 13,000 dollars in terms of GDP per capita 13000

1042
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,540
we will have human rights and democracy.Itell them:You're wrong. 

1043
00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:21,330
We are 10 times less compared to the US, including the 8 times difference of GDP. 108GDP

1044
00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:23,330
 But when it comes to human rights and the sense of security

1045
00:54:23,330 --> 00:54:25,710
you are 10000 times even 100 million times less than the US. You are zero. 0

1046
00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:29,040
That's what lalways say 

1047
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,710
how can the entrepreneurs nowaday in China make money without safety 

1048
00:54:31,830 --> 00:54:33,330
 What would you do if you have no future

1049
00:54:33,330 --> 00:54:36,120
 You don't even dare to speak up if your wife

1050
00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:37,420
and your daughter got raped by others. 

1051
00:54:37,460 --> 00:54:40,500
 their mother to the government officials. Some people would even send away

1052
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:44,750
 afamily.Thegrandmotherthemother An official slept with four generations of

1053
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,170
the wife,and the daughter. Everyone knows about it. 

1054
00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:50,790
 What kind of country would let this happen?

1055
00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:53,330
 Sowhat dolwant

1056
00:54:53,330 --> 00:54:57,670
Ihave reorganized my views towards life  my worldview and my personal values.

1057
00:54:57,790 --> 00:55:00,670
3 Whatl want to do takes time. lt takes three years.

1058
00:55:00,710 --> 00:55:04,380
3 There are three important factors in these three years,Mr.Xiaoping.

1059
00:55:04,460 --> 00:55:07,120
 The first oneis the 19th National Congress. Very crucial.

1060
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:14,250
 If those thieves who claim to fight against corruption are still elected in the 19th National Congress

1061
00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:17,420
it will mark the beginning of this country's catastrophe 

1062
00:55:18,330 --> 00:55:20,540
 Secondly,Ibelieve the 19th National Congress

1063
00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:24,790
will elect officials who actually think for the sake of the country 

1064
00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:27,540
Ireally believe President Xi can make this happen 

1065
00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:30,000
 Thenew officials,under President Xi's lead

1066
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:35,960
will start a new political change in2018. 2018

1067
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,830
 -wouldn't call itreform

1068
00:55:36,830 --> 00:55:42,920
It's a political change and an evolution of China moving towards democratization and liberal legalization. 

1069
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,080
evolutionrevolutior It's calledevolutionin English. What we hate the most isrevolution.

1070
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,540
revolution sacrifices of human lives. This is horrible Revolution means blood shedding and

1071
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:52,460
I think President Xi will be able to make China go through an evolution evolution

1072
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:55,420
 At thattime,

1073
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:58,420
l think we have roles to play.I have a role to play 

1074
00:55:58,420 --> 00:56:02,460
Ithink the Twitter Party built up by me and  my Guo's Seven Principles will be of help

1075
00:56:02,460 --> 00:56:05,670
So that's why lalways say l don't go against the country 

1076
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:09,880
 democracy and President Xi? This is very important.

1077
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,250
Manypeople curse me. 

1078
00:56:11,250 --> 00:56:13,790
You can curse me if you can achieve  something.Iwould even admire you.

1079
00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:17,250
You can curse me or even kill me.But l can do what you can't 

1080
00:56:17,330 --> 00:56:20,040
 even it isa bit less than what you said,but ldo it anyway

1081
00:56:20,275 --> 00:56:21,775
What I suggest and care the most are results.

1082
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:25,500
Solbelieve the year 2018is the key 2018

1083
00:56:25,580 --> 00:56:29,830
Ithink in the year of 2019, 2019

1084
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,830
 China will develop a new political state,anew start.

1085
00:56:32,830 --> 00:56:35,750
to completely change the current situation Ibelieve the Chinese society will be able 

1086
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:37,040
of anti-corruption with corruption,anti-corruption with dark force, 

1087
00:56:37,170 --> 00:56:40,880
 anti-corruption with the police force

1088
00:56:41,210 --> 00:56:44,120
 and governing the county with the police force

1089
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,250
Iwill start breaking down the internet firewall  according tomyplans in these three years.

1090
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,210
Then I will let China face up to reality of the world. 

1091
00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:56,750
lalso hope people like Dalai Lama could return to China 

1092
00:56:56,830 --> 00:57:00,330
 More importantly,I hope the real leader of the Chinese government, President Xi

1093
00:57:00,330 --> 00:57:04,420
will let those who are not allowed to go back to China return home 

1094
00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:10,750
2019 AndI think China should really implement the amnesty law in 2019.

1095
00:57:10,750 --> 00:57:14,210
 And China will start apeaceful evolution

1096
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:15,920
intoa new age of politicai reform 

1097
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,670
 This is what lpursue.I might be very naive

1098
00:57:18,790 --> 00:57:22,750
but l think this is whatlam after. This is my three-year plan 

1099
00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:29,460
Okay.Thank you,Mr.Guo Wengui. Even though you didn't go into details about certain things, 

1100
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:33,000
I think we all get some rough ideas 

1101
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:40,120
 You mentioned your luxurious life just now.l'm very curious

1102
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,500
 because some people say you don't have money anymore.

1103
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,960
 Because you're selling your house in Manhattan,right

1104
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,830
 Thisis a question that the audience concerns about.

1105
00:57:49,830 --> 00:57:51,920
 have no more material to disclose. Anotherissue is that people say you

1106
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:57,330
 even today's show.Some said you should... Some people said we shouldn't wait for you anymore,

1107
00:57:57,380 --> 00:57:59,290
Afriend of mine posted a Tweet yesterday 

1108
00:57:59,675 --> 00:58:01,175
saying your assets are confiscated

1109
00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:04,460
 because you run out of money and materials. and so you probably wonit havea Season 3

1110
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:07,380
 So here is the first question are you out of money now

1111
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:10,830
Ican talk about these two issues together 

1112
00:58:10,830 --> 00:58:13,120
Also you selling your Manhattan house. 

1113
00:58:13,170 --> 00:58:15,000
 The house you look at right now

1114
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,620
2014 was bought at the end of 2014.

1115
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:22,580
25 The highest price reached for this house was 250 million USD.

1116
00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:27,330
15 Then a Middle Eastern prince came and paid 150 million USD.

1117
00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:30,920
The owner,Mr.Hershey 

1118
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,960
 the founder of US Travel Group,tried to sell his house

1119
00:58:33,425 --> 00:58:36,850
But this house was under a shareholder system.

1120
00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:39,920
lt was very worth it.90%of the shareholders were Jewish 90%

1121
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,040
 So they were very strict on who they are going to sell the house to.

1122
00:58:42,325 --> 00:58:43,825
No people of color live in this building.

1123
00:58:45,460 --> 00:58:48,080
 That Middle East prince isa Muslim,so he got rejected

1124
00:58:48,375 --> 00:58:49,875
Another partner of mine, who was a prince, wanted to buy it.

1125
00:58:50,420 --> 00:58:52,750
He offered 200 million dollars but they 2 still wouldn't sell it to him. Then Icame.

1126
00:58:52,750 --> 00:58:57,420
The famous property agent in Manhattan is a close friend of mine. 

1127
00:58:58,250 --> 00:59:00,580
 He introduced me to the chairman.

1128
00:59:00,670 --> 00:59:05,380
 nice impression of me. He also met my son. The chairman was very nice to me. He had a

1129
00:59:05,420 --> 00:59:09,460
He said:If you can find three guarantors,I will sell you this house.  

1130
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,710
 Solheld this shareholder meeting and found 3 guarantors

1131
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:16,670
 within 3 hours as he requested.

1132
00:59:16,750 --> 00:59:19,880
 He immediately held a shareholder meeting and sell me this house.

1133
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,380
 This never happened in Manhattan.

1134
00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:24,580
 Then I bought this house within 3 weeks and moved in

1135
00:59:24,670 --> 00:59:26,040
 Howmuch didlpay

1136
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:31,880
70007000 70 million dollars The house itself was worth 70 million dollars.

1137
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:38,420
600300 6 million dollars was for taxes and 3 million dollars was for management fees

1138
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:41,080
Also another 3 million was partly for the renovation fees 300

1139
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,880
8200 Solspent a total of 82 million USD on this house.

1140
00:59:44,290 --> 00:59:47,170
 buildings on the west side of this house When I bought this,there were two new

1141
00:59:47,170 --> 00:59:50,040
that are even higher-end than this building 

1142
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,040
Ispent 130 million dollars and 150 1.31.5 million dollars respectively on 4 houses

1143
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,000
 for my son and daughter

1144
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,750
them. One of them will be finished this year. 3 But it takes about three years to decorate

1145
01:00:02,830 --> 01:00:05,460
Another one will be finished next year,or the yearafter 

1146
01:00:05,580 --> 01:00:07,960
And Ihad a house before 

1147
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,580
9 a big one with about 9 bedrooms.Ilet my friend stay therenow.

1148
01:00:11,580 --> 01:00:13,580
Iwill take it backand move there. 

1149
01:00:13,580 --> 01:00:16,670
Because this houselam living right now only has three big bedrooms and two small ones. 3

1150
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:18,250
 Itis not enough when my whole family move to the US.

1151
01:00:18,330 --> 01:00:20,420
 Mysecurityguards live here now too.

1152
01:00:20,460 --> 01:00:21,670
 But what's more important?

1153
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:25,120
My wife doesn't like this neighborhood. 

1154
01:00:25,460 --> 01:00:29,620
Thisis the busiest corner in New York. There are too  many people around so we will move to the old house.

1155
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:31,580
 Why didl start to sell this house?

1156
01:00:31,950 --> 01:00:33,450
I had been trying to sell it not even a year after  I bought it.

1157
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:36,120
Ihad been trying to sell it 

1158
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,040
officials of the US once wanted to buy it  One of the recently appointed highest level

1159
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,920
Ireject at that time. Then the price continued to drop 

1160
01:00:45,580 --> 01:00:47,120
7000 It has dropped to around 70 million USD now.

1161
01:00:47,250 --> 01:00:50,960
 So,selling this house has nothing to do with my financial situation

1162
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,420
 More importantlywhatif I don't have money anymore?

1163
01:00:54,525 --> 01:00:56,025
I won't be able to live over three months, let alone the three-year plan.

1164
01:00:56,670 --> 01:01:01,290
My lawyer fees and expenses for  dealing with these Internet issues alone

1165
01:01:01,290 --> 01:01:05,000
 are already about a few million USD per month.

1166
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,080
 There's also airplane maintenance.

1167
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,670
 Foralarge airplane

1168
01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:10,580
it costs 5 million US dollars a year,even you just leave it there. 500

1169
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:11,880
Asmall airplane costs 3 million US dollars. 300

1170
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,000
 Even if you just leave it there,it still costsa few million US dollars

1171
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,750
 A boat costs a few million US dollars,right?

1172
01:01:15,790 --> 01:01:17,250
 AndIhave to pay for the property management fee for these houses

1173
01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:20,620
6 This house,for example, costs over 60,000 dollars a month in terms of management fees. With all the houses together

1174
01:01:20,620 --> 01:01:25,040
1.5 if I don't have 150 million US dollars a year

1175
01:01:25,170 --> 01:01:27,580
 I will starve and all these willbe gone.

1176
01:01:28,380 --> 01:01:31,210
 And please note that none of my assets were bought with loans.

1177
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:32,380
 Inever use loans.

1178
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:34,170
Igot a loan of 300 million for my house in Hong Kong 

1179
01:01:34,290 --> 01:01:36,580
 In the end,the CBC urgently withdrew solpaid back the money

1180
01:01:36,620 --> 01:01:38,580
SoInever use loans 

1181
01:01:38,580 --> 01:01:42,330
 My assets are not my own. They belong to our family's fund

1182
01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:47,750
So if I don't prepare enough money for 3 to 30 years, 330

1183
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:50,580
nor survive. This is the first thing  it's impossible for me to have dreams

1184
01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:53,920
 Secondly,60million or 70 million US dollars

1185
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,170
is really not much for me. 

1186
01:01:55,210 --> 01:01:57,790
 Tobe honest,

1187
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,120
our fund has 28 billion US dollars which no one can touch. 280

1188
01:02:01,250 --> 01:02:06,670
 So it's very interesting that some people say ldon't have money

1189
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:11,380
Hu Shuli and Wei Shi from Boxun News have been spreading false stories 3

1190
01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:15,290
about me in the past three years. They  always say: Guo Wenguiis out of money.

1191
01:02:15,330 --> 01:02:17,380
 But does that have anything to do with my exposure

1192
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,830
 Does that have anything to do with HNA's loans of RMB2 trillion?

1193
01:02:22,380 --> 01:02:25,960
 Does that have anything to do with some people governing the country with triad societies,

1194
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,330
 or the arrest of my family

1195
01:02:28,540 --> 01:02:32,670
 Secondlythey say I'ma bad guy and raped myemployees

1196
01:02:32,670 --> 01:02:35,420
 If l'm really a rapistgive me a guilty verdict.

1197
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:38,000
 Does all these have anything to do with my disclosures No

1198
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,420
 Thirdlythey saylhave a government background and I collude with government officials.

1199
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:44,210
 Giveme some evidence.

1200
01:02:44,290 --> 01:02:46,880
 have anything to do with my disclosures? Does my collusion with the government

1201
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:50,830
 So can you see none of their disclosures about me are true

1202
01:02:50,830 --> 01:02:52,540
If a single one is true,point it out. 

1203
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:55,420
 Apart from the one that says I'ma guy

1204
01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:56,920
 please tell me which one is true.

1205
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:01,920
my money or me running out of money They talked about my relationship with officials 

1206
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,330
Three years ago,they said my capital chain ruptured. Caixin News said that many times N

1207
01:03:06,330 --> 01:03:09,500
 not to mention Boxun News. They said I had no money

1208
01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:11,960
 andIwas calling the court and lawyers to seek political asylum.

1209
01:03:12,210 --> 01:03:13,790
 Peoplesaidlcouldn't feed myself

1210
01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:16,250
 And the Canadians said something like

1211
01:03:16,290 --> 01:03:18,790
 Guo Wengui was just lonely and couldn't feed myself sol came out to reveal information.

1212
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:22,580
Sometimes they even said things about my boats 

1213
01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:23,750
 and planes on Twitter.

1214
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:26,750
They said the boat was not mine but rather belongs to a Dutch family 

1215
01:03:26,790 --> 01:03:27,960
 and the airplane doesn't belong to mine either.

1216
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,250
 They have no common sense at all

1217
01:03:29,250 --> 01:03:33,170
These things can be verified.In the West  bragging something like this is against the law.

1218
01:03:33,170 --> 01:03:34,170
This is no joke. 

1219
01:03:34,250 --> 01:03:35,460
 As you can see,

1220
01:03:35,460 --> 01:03:38,290
 those thieves fixate on the point that lam out of money

1221
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,920
 But does that have anything to do with the revelations,

1222
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,000
with your corruption or you raping girls? 

1223
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,500
Does that have anything to do with you fooling  around with female models on the airplane

1224
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,960
person. Even if I'm really a bad person So what's the point They saidlam abad 

1225
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,620
 willit be okay for you to sleep with female models?

1226
01:03:51,710 --> 01:03:53,830
 Will it be okay for you to steal RMB2 trillion from the country

1227
01:03:54,210 --> 01:03:56,670
 take thousands of billions of dollars from the country Will it be okay for you to have illegitimate children and

1228
01:03:57,250 --> 01:04:01,670
Let me assure youwhen people say thatlampoor,itis completely false. 

1229
01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:04,210
todo with my revelation on the dopes.  Also,my financial situation has got nothing

1230
01:04:04,290 --> 01:04:09,380
 What l want to say is that l have lots of money

1231
01:04:09,380 --> 01:04:12,960
 lots of enemies and lots of twitter friends. That is true.

1232
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:13,460
 Threelots-ofs

1233
01:04:13,460 --> 01:04:14,540
 Ihave a disclosure.

1234
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,380
 About disclosures,others say you have no more disclosures.I havea lot of questions to ask you later.

1235
01:04:19,380 --> 01:04:22,330
 -will tell you again.I won't repeat this.

1236
01:04:22,330 --> 01:04:24,460
 If I showed anything now

1237
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,460
 any book now,in the both Chinese and English version

1238
01:04:27,830 --> 01:04:32,210
 there would definitely be millions of people in China going into the street.

1239
01:04:33,250 --> 01:04:39,420
 I'm not joking  If anyone doesn't believe me,bet with me

1240
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:44,330
 Also these disclosures l'm talking about are notarized by judicial institutions.

1241
01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:46,880
 Who dares to have their disclosures notarized by judicial institutions?

1242
01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:51,960
Solhave both money and material for disclosures. 

1243
01:04:52,580 --> 01:04:54,000
 So what do you sayMr.Xiaoping

1244
01:04:54,460 --> 01:04:56,420
OkayIwill ask you about the dopes later 

1245
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,670
I think you are a representative of the worst people on Twitter. 

1246
01:05:00,670 --> 01:05:02,830
 You always ask for more dopes but you never admit them

1247
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:08,040
 Yes.And many people are staying up late towait

1248
01:05:08,170 --> 01:05:09,500
for you in front of the TV today 

1249
01:05:09,540 --> 01:05:11,880
They are waiting for you,Mr. Xiaoping. You're a handsome man. 

1250
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,670
should disclose some materials today You should satisfy people's requests, you 

1251
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:17,620
lwon't let you go even you don't disclose. 

1252
01:05:17,650 --> 01:05:21,000
so you repeatdly mentioned that you had a disclosure

1253
01:05:21,330 --> 01:05:23,920
 about He Guoqiang's family and if it was exposed

1254
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,880
 millions of people would protest in the street.

1255
01:05:29,620 --> 01:05:34,750
So your disclosure will threaten them.  Beijing panics when there are street protests.

1256
01:05:34,830 --> 01:05:37,750
 What kind of information is this Can you tell people a little bittoday

1257
01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:41,500
 Thank youMr.Xiaoping.Ididn't threaten them.

1258
01:05:42,460 --> 01:05:44,210
FirstofallIdidn't threaten them 

1259
01:05:44,210 --> 01:05:45,880
 I don't wantto threaten anyone.

1260
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,790
Iwon't disclose any dopes about Mr. He Guoqiang 

1261
01:05:50,330 --> 01:05:53,960
But l heard voice recordings of Mr. He Guoqiang's son. In the future 

1262
01:05:54,420 --> 01:05:55,750
 we will

1263
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,210
 disclose the voice recording,the one about Li You.

1264
01:06:00,670 --> 01:06:04,080
 In the meeting, the younger He wanted to killme.

1265
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,920
Ihave no connection with the younger  He.Even he's Li You's shareholder,

1266
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,120
there is no reason for him to kill me right What for 

1267
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,210
 As aresponse,Itold him

1268
01:06:10,290 --> 01:06:11,920
Don't interfere with Li You and me 

1269
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,790
 You already did a lot of things because of Li You."

1270
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,330
 Don't try to kill me. There is no point killing me

1271
01:06:16,330 --> 01:06:19,960
lalso told him that l knew everything about them 

1272
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,330
including the mineral and financial resources controlled by He Jintao He Jinlei and their uncle He Laosan. 

1273
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,620
 Iknew that he has been selling and buying officials and

1274
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:33,880
 all sorts of things in his personal life.

1275
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,670
There are certain things that ordinary people can't accept 

1276
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:41,290
For example, he sleeps with four generations of a family 

1277
01:06:41,290 --> 01:06:44,500
Not to mention China He would not have been accepted even in the old society or the Stone Age 

1278
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,000
 You mentioned this story for several times.

1279
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,670
So,it has something to do with He Guogiang's family 

1280
01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:55,380
whether this has to do with his family  He Jintao can respond to this and tell us

1281
01:06:55,380 --> 01:07:00,580
But lam not going to reveal all of the dopes of the He's family 

1282
01:07:00,580 --> 01:07:03,750
 But he draws a target on his own back.

1283
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:08,210
 He even helped Li You in the CCDI.

1284
01:07:08,290 --> 01:07:11,380
 He pleaded guilty and helped Li You out

1285
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:14,830
He helped Li You run his hundreds of billion dollars' business. 

1286
01:07:14,830 --> 01:07:17,250
 Hecompletely lost the basic principles

1287
01:07:17,625 --> 01:07:19,125
as a party member and as a leader.

1288
01:07:19,540 --> 01:07:23,170
would be the money he cheated out of investors If lam to disclose information about his money,that 

1289
01:07:24,460 --> 01:07:27,790
E Even the Ezubao and the money

1290
01:07:29,170 --> 01:07:31,960
that Pan-Asia transferred were related to He's family 

1291
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,420
 A few mineral resources relate to them too.

1292
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:37,750
 Chinese folks will rally outside He's house once they find out.

1293
01:07:37,790 --> 01:07:40,040
l believe there will be more than 10million. 1

1294
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,670
If l actually disclose everythingthe consequences would be very serious. 

1295
01:07:42,750 --> 01:07:46,460
Ibelieve Mr. He Guoqiang doesn't necessarily knows everything about his own family 

1296
01:07:46,580 --> 01:07:49,670
 Their family members are working on their own business

1297
01:07:49,710 --> 01:07:52,120
 but what they do will cause very serious consequences.

1298
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,170
 large, only a few hundred billion RMB. The money involved isn't really that

1299
01:07:55,250 --> 01:07:58,620
 But for those thieves,we are talking about trillions of RMB.They own the whole country

1300
01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:04,920
But He's family has only stolen a few hundred billion. But the consequences are serious according to today's legal conviction 

1301
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,210
because he endangers the society to a large extent.A lot of money is involved. 

1302
01:08:10,210 --> 01:08:12,380
immense. So it will incite public anger.  The possible social consequences are

1303
01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:14,620
But I don't want to expose him today 

1304
01:08:14,620 --> 01:08:15,580
 Not today

1305
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:16,750
lwill see how it goes 

1306
01:08:16,750 --> 01:08:18,580
 OkayI'llmark thisdownfirst.

1307
01:08:19,380 --> 01:08:22,420
126 You said to me in the first episode of Mingjing on January 26

1308
01:08:22,750 --> 01:08:27,880
that there are only a few corrupt officials who are destroying China. 

1309
01:08:28,540 --> 01:08:31,290
 You used the termnation traitorslater

1310
01:08:32,670 --> 01:08:39,040
 You said you would expose 4 senior officials. You have already exposed Fu Zhenghua.

1311
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,290
This is the lowest-level one. 

1312
01:08:41,330 --> 01:08:49,420
You have exposed the Politburo Standing Committee member Wang Qishan and the Politburo member, Meng Jianzhu. 

1313
01:08:49,420 --> 01:08:52,170
 Thatis to say you have already exposed three people

1314
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:54,080
 There are already three,so one is missing

1315
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:03,330
 So let me explain it. Today,we are still dancing with shackles,

1316
01:09:03,380 --> 01:09:04,750
 we are still talking

1317
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,210
 and singing overa mask

1318
01:09:06,790 --> 01:09:13,000
 In fact,we should put it this waythere are two more people to go.

1319
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,000
 lwant to follow up on Huo Guoqiang

1320
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,120
 His name was brought up in the information you disclosed.

1321
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,620
information pertaining to Huo Guoqiang  and as you just said,that you will not disclose

1322
01:09:22,620 --> 01:09:23,380
Not within the scope of the news broke 

1323
01:09:23,380 --> 01:09:27,120
 So there is still Han Zhen a name you mentioned

1324
01:09:28,580 --> 01:09:31,880
Ididnt mention Han Zhen. lt just so happened  that his name was brought up in Fu Laosan's

1325
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,710
 Fu Zhenhua's,recording.

1326
01:09:33,710 --> 01:09:35,210
 lt seems that Jia Qinglin was also named previously as well

1327
01:09:35,580 --> 01:09:37,580
 Jia Qinglin, the so called Lao Jia,is of no relevance to me.

1328
01:09:37,580 --> 01:09:38,000
OK OK.

1329
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,960
 disclose information about him even if lhad any lt doesn't matter to me. Lao Jiais anice guy;l wouldnt

1330
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,500
 So, you still owe internet friends a name.

1331
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:48,580
 You named two already o you still owe us two.

1332
01:09:48,670 --> 01:09:51,460
 Soare yougoingtotalk about one,or both of them

1333
01:09:52,170 --> 01:09:53,250
Whatis your opinion? 

1334
01:09:53,250 --> 01:09:54,880
I will leave the new one out for today 

1335
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:55,920
 You are only going to talk about one of them.

1336
01:09:56,580 --> 01:09:58,040
Yes,I will leave the new one out. 

1337
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,120
 That's because you still have the shackles.

1338
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,500
Shackles,hand cuffsmasks 

1339
01:10:02,620 --> 01:10:05,880
 so itis going to cause trouble if Imention both of them. Three years.

1340
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,580
 Rememberyou are owing us more and more,Ihave kept a record.

1341
01:10:08,580 --> 01:10:09,120
 Jot themdown.

1342
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,290
 Yes,will.

1343
01:10:10,290 --> 01:10:12,500
 You can jot them down now, Twitter friends are watching

1344
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:15,290
511 Rightsoon the 11th May's video

1345
01:10:15,290 --> 01:10:20,120
you said Huang Yan's influence penetrates into Zhongnanhai 

1346
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,290
conference organized by Mr.Dong,thelawyer Huang Yan. When lattended the press 

1347
01:10:25,290 --> 01:10:26,500
he was not aware of Huang Yan 

1348
01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:28,670
He really didn't have any idea who Huang Yan  was,and he even wrongly pronounced her name.

1349
01:10:30,710 --> 01:10:32,500
 Then lasked him more about it

1350
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:37,500
but then later when l approached him  He mentioned Huang Yan's name

1351
01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:40,960
 and wanted to take a look at the lega documents,he didn't allowme todo that

1352
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:46,290
asked for more in the press conference Sol talked about this before,andl 

1353
01:10:46,290 --> 01:10:50,460
I didn't know the details concerning the libel. 

1354
01:10:50,830 --> 01:10:54,330
Ialso told Mr. Dong that I would interview himagain 

1355
01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:58,080
she had got members of the standing committee  But you mentioned that Huang Yan admitted that

1356
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,210
 and Politburo and leaders of the Ministry of State Security to back her.

1357
01:10:59,210 --> 01:11:01,080
 Director of the office,secretary of the secretariat

1358
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,380
 deputy director of the commission for Discipline Inspection

1359
01:11:03,380 --> 01:11:07,080
These are the people supporting Huang Yan  can you make a few comments on that

1360
01:11:07,460 --> 01:11:09,500
 Thanks,Xiao Ping,let me explain about that tersely

1361
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:17,080
political spectrum. She retains a wide social network Wong Yang carries a lot of power in Beijing's 

1362
01:11:17,210 --> 01:11:19,420
Let's not say that you can influence like an official 

1363
01:11:19,420 --> 01:11:26,210
 but you can influence like a minister of organization.

1364
01:11:26,210 --> 01:11:32,080
Why There are few officials in Beijing who  don't get involved with the real estate business.

1365
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:40,040
20011999 Especially after 1999 and2001

1366
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,290
2001 after China held the Olympic Games at 2001

1367
01:11:43,575 --> 01:11:46,000
when Beijing's real eatate business was booming.

1368
01:11:46,420 --> 01:11:53,210
 youngalmost twenty years younger back then She was really impressive at that time. She was

1369
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:58,670
 For Huang Yan,Igot this crucial information from my male friends

1370
01:11:58,670 --> 01:12:01,420
 She is well-admired by my male friends

1371
01:12:01,580 --> 01:12:04,290
 Most of the minister's women are not pretty

1372
01:12:04,290 --> 01:12:07,380
 But why do they like her They all said that

1373
01:12:07,380 --> 01:12:10,880
she has got this irresistible charisma, she is aggressive. 

1374
01:12:11,210 --> 01:12:14,250
 And she is flirty. She would pull

1375
01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:17,750
there come her mouth and hands.  down your pants out of the blue, and

1376
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:21,880
To an old man,this would take him back to when he was still young 

1377
01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:27,710
Huang Yan is that kind of person. She targets those old guys 

1378
01:12:27,710 --> 01:12:30,580
Especially when you have just woken up from the afternoon nap. 

1379
01:12:30,620 --> 01:12:32,170
thatis the best timing,physically speaking 

1380
01:12:32,170 --> 01:12:34,210
lam more concerned about those old cadres. 

1381
01:12:34,460 --> 01:12:38,620
that you are interested in the sexual issues  Let me tell youas you want to know.lt seems

1382
01:12:38,620 --> 01:12:40,920
 No,lam not,andlam not interested in Huang Yan.

1383
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,960
 You should have an interview with Huang Yan,a one to one interview.

1384
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,580
So you can get to know her character and how  this culture develops. Some women are good at it.

1385
01:12:50,620 --> 01:12:53,710
 And Huang Yan is an absolute master. Why is that

1386
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:55,920
 So many of her friends are actually mine as well

1387
01:12:56,170 --> 01:12:59,750
 they told me things about her.

1388
01:13:00,460 --> 01:13:01,960
Let me share one with you. 

1389
01:13:02,330 --> 01:13:06,210
The Beijing incident,in which the  deputy mayor Liu Zhihua was involved.

1390
01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:10,000
So what was the target in the General Office Ling Jihua 

1391
01:13:10,330 --> 01:13:15,120
 Alot of construction projects were launched.

1392
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,620
 Zhongnanhai was turned on its head,and she was hugely involved.

1393
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:22,460
Ling Jihua has strong sexual capability 

1394
01:13:22,460 --> 01:13:25,120
 He hasa lot of girlfriends. His girls are from different places,including Air China

1395
01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:29,620
education TV program and traditional opera. 

1396
01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:31,620
 And he sent them to different places

1397
01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:33,830
 and they were at his disposal anytime.

1398
01:13:34,420 --> 01:13:39,330
 wouldn't find him at the designated time. So Huang Yan knew the trick she

1399
01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:43,290
As he is famous for sleeping late 

1400
01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:44,460
orwe should say he barely sleeps 

1401
01:13:44,500 --> 01:13:48,540
She came to his place for reporting at night  In the afternoon she went to Liu Zhihua,

1402
01:13:48,540 --> 01:13:50,880
three old officials in one afternoon   and some other old officials. She visited

1403
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,000
and at night,she would spend time with Ling Jihua 

1404
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,670
 One of his girlfriend is a close friend of mine.

1405
01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:59,750
 She knows a lot about Huang Yan.

1406
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:04,500
So later,this Huang Yan became the  topic in our male friendship circle;

1407
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:06,960
she wasawonder woman 

1408
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,210
So she would do her job" after drinking some red wine at thejockey clubs, 

1409
01:14:11,210 --> 01:14:14,040
 then at Changan club,

1410
01:14:14,170 --> 01:14:17,080
 China club,Zhongnanhai club

1411
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,330
and city hall respectively 

1412
01:14:18,380 --> 01:14:22,750
During weekends,she would go back to her villas and be  engaged in the real estate business with her husband.

1413
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:28,120
 This woman is not simple. So why dol have to talk about hertoday

1414
01:14:28,210 --> 01:14:30,830
 Hasshe offended me

1415
01:14:31,250 --> 01:14:33,750
 ljustwanttolet you know

1416
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:36,580
 don't try to pretend that you are a gentleman

1417
01:14:36,750 --> 01:14:39,790
wear your clothes while having a bath  lt makes no difference whether you

1418
01:14:39,790 --> 01:14:40,880
or when you sleep 

1419
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,880
Iknow, but lam not interested in that. 

1420
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,170
So you have mentioned two dead tigers 

1421
01:14:44,170 --> 01:14:47,040
The first one is Lui Zhiqiang,and the second one is Ling Jihua. Are there any live tigers 

1422
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,620
 Idare not to speak about the live ones,but surely yes there are.

1423
01:14:51,620 --> 01:14:55,080
 If you don't dare to,just say you owe me or you don't have the courage.

1424
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,750
 Just don't beat around.

1425
01:14:56,750 --> 01:14:58,420
lowe you. 

1426
01:14:58,420 --> 01:14:59,540
You owe me,right 

1427
01:14:59,540 --> 01:15:02,460
But l believe that all of you can feel that Huang Yan 

1428
01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:05,880
 up until today

1429
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:06,040
up until today 

1430
01:15:06,500 --> 01:15:09,500
is still so powerful and influential in Beijing 

1431
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,250
 So who are backing her up now

1432
01:15:12,620 --> 01:15:16,580
The more lreveal information about Huang  Yan,the more important Huang Yan becomes.

1433
01:15:16,580 --> 01:15:18,500
Just look at Fu Zhenhua,the moreltalk about him 

1434
01:15:18,500 --> 01:15:20,670
 the more powerful he becomes;the morel talk about Fu Laosan

1435
01:15:20,710 --> 01:15:21,830
 the more money hemakes.

1436
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,960
 more,who has the right to back her up Soltalk about Huang Yan more and

1437
01:15:26,380 --> 01:15:28,670
Takea look at Beijing's standing committee. 

1438
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:31,420
 Only two or three have that power.I will leave the restto you.

1439
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:34,830
 Sometimes,you have to work it out yourself

1440
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,210
So it is within the standing committee,right. 

1441
01:15:36,250 --> 01:15:41,540
Thanks for giving us a direction. Within the standing committee it is. 

1442
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,290
 And also in the Politburo. There are a lot there.

1443
01:15:45,290 --> 01:15:48,500
Just give us some more hints,you always give us hints 

1444
01:15:48,500 --> 01:15:49,960
 Iparticularly hope that Huang Yan will sue me.

1445
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,170
 Once again,l beg Huang Yan to sue me.

1446
01:15:53,380 --> 01:15:55,330
 When yousueme

1447
01:15:55,330 --> 01:15:58,290
lam more impressed. 

1448
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:03,330
 Speaking of which,this Huang Yan,and the nine Chinese companies

1449
01:16:03,330 --> 01:16:06,500
mandate the same law firm. Just like a group buy 

1450
01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:11,960
 And also Pan Shiyi's lawsuit.

1451
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,250
Hu Shuli found the same law firm as well 

1452
01:16:14,540 --> 01:16:17,580
 Simple,there is only one commander.

1453
01:16:17,620 --> 01:16:19,710
There is only one person who pays the bill. 

1454
01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:24,120
And he would try to make a fortune when cooperating with the law firm. 

1455
01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:28,250
Whose money Ordinary people's.  That person would spend a lot of money.

1456
01:16:28,250 --> 01:16:30,880
Let's see who pays the bill for Huang  Yan.Who pays for Pan Shiwei's lawsuit?

1457
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,210
Who pays for Hu Shuli's lawsuit lt is the Communist Party 

1458
01:16:33,210 --> 01:16:37,750
 And where does the party's money comes from The ordinary people.

1459
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,170
familyteonethatcommittedsuicide. Ipromise you that it is not from Yang Ganen's 

1460
01:16:41,170 --> 01:16:42,170
 They don't have the money

1461
01:16:42,170 --> 01:16:43,790
 You need to prove it.

1462
01:16:43,790 --> 01:16:48,210
Don't worry about it. Yousee,when they take action,thatis our opportunity 

1463
01:16:48,250 --> 01:16:52,330
we can track down the sources of their money Their fear is our weapon. When they take action 

1464
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:55,500
 pay in the US,itis legal to access it. Everyone knows how much money we

1465
01:16:55,500 --> 01:16:56,710
Ican retrieve the figures 

1466
01:16:56,710 --> 01:16:58,000
 -will investigate.

1467
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,960
In addition,I will reveal who finds the lawyers 

1468
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,420
Firstyou will get aresult.Secondyou will know the truth. 

1469
01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:08,040
lam interested in this. 

1470
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,290
lam particularly willing to do this as well,so don't you worry 

1471
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:12,000
This is my promise to you Twitter friends, and to you Xiao Ping.

1472
01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:15,710
lwill reveal the truth inthefuture. 

1473
01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:18,040
lam just pondering on the fact that  they all looked for the same law firm

1474
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,420
This means that there is only one boss who commands and pays. 

1475
01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:22,830
 And that he will make a fortune out of it

1476
01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:24,540
 Money-making after all

1477
01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:28,460
 They think of ways to make money all the time. And they compete for the chance to go overseas,

1478
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:31,580
 the chance to make money,and the chance to launder money. Who wouldn't?

1479
01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:36,290
Ok,so the next question. Are you ready 

1480
01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:40,750
 We will talk about your incident. We will talk about the pay back. First

1481
01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:43,290
 Blimey!Somany questions!

1482
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,500
 How many internet friends do we have now

1483
01:17:48,580 --> 01:17:53,380
 Mr. Guo needs to know how many viewers now.

1484
01:17:53,420 --> 01:17:58,380
Yes,lam,and there are only 4 4

1485
01:17:58,380 --> 01:18:05,330
4 40,000. Net friends are his unlimited source of energy.

1486
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,580
Forme,it doesn't concern me. 

1487
01:18:07,670 --> 01:18:09,380
 me.

1488
01:18:09,380 --> 01:18:10,620
 You are seriously concerned.

1489
01:18:11,500 --> 01:18:12,330
22 22,000.

1490
01:18:12,330 --> 01:18:13,620
Twitter10 Twitter10000

1491
01:18:13,620 --> 01:18:17,000
Twitter10YouTube22 Let me report the figures to our net friends We have got 10,000 Twitter viewers, and 22000 Youtube viewers.

1492
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,250
 He always asks for these figures

1493
01:18:20,575 --> 01:18:22,075
We have to keep our sprits up!

1494
01:18:22,670 --> 01:18:26,000
 Come on!I will reveal more information

1495
01:18:26,460 --> 01:18:27,620
 So what do we have now

1496
01:18:27,670 --> 01:18:31,500
Huang Yan and Xiao Ping have a connection No,I'm kidding 

1497
01:18:32,330 --> 01:18:37,000
38 First,on 8th March,which was oursecond interview

1498
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,210
 someone asked when the third episode was going out.

1499
01:18:41,710 --> 01:18:45,750
 And you mentioned that it would be related to Fu Zhenhua

1500
01:18:45,790 --> 01:18:48,040
 and his future.

1501
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,710
 So howis it going to be related to Fu Zhenhua

1502
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,460
 And the second time l interviewed you

1503
01:18:56,460 --> 01:19:00,830
80% you withdrew 80 percent of the information about Fu Zhenhua

1504
01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:04,170
 You explained that that was because an old official came to you

1505
01:19:04,380 --> 01:19:07,830
and asked you to do him afavor 

1506
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:10,120
So nowregarding the information pertaining 

1507
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,040
 to Fu Zhenhua's corruption

1508
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,670
 shouldn't you give us an explanation?

1509
01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:22,750
lam very pleased to meet Chen Xiaoping  the judge,today,the trial was conducted well.

1510
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,580
Twitter friends chose a good judge; we can trust this Xiaoping 

1511
01:19:26,580 --> 01:19:27,670
 because he really knows the Law.

1512
01:19:28,580 --> 01:19:35,080
Zhenhua,the new official called me yesterday So for the information concerning Fu 

1513
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,620
In a three hour phone call 

1514
01:19:36,620 --> 01:19:40,830
he requested the withdrawal of Fu Zhenhua's information 

1515
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:46,290
case was going through legal procedure He made a strong request He said that the 

1516
01:19:46,290 --> 01:19:49,420
 and that he promised to give me a reply later

1517
01:19:49,420 --> 01:19:52,880
 Solhave to make this clear to all of my Twitter friends

1518
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,620
 My exposing of information should not be treated as acts of revenge

1519
01:19:56,620 --> 01:20:01,080
 You see,lam wealthy capable and wise.

1520
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,790
Ican achieve my goals without exposing anything. 

1521
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:09,080
Ido this because of my commitment to the seven principles of Guo. 

1522
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,330
 Forthe relevant information concerning Fu Zhenhua to related parties.

1523
01:20:12,330 --> 01:20:14,290
Ihave already submitted to the related department. 

1524
01:20:14,330 --> 01:20:18,670
 AndI can't talk about it now,but action has taken place

1525
01:20:18,750 --> 01:20:22,880
I think this new official will do what he has promised.Otherwise 

1526
01:20:23,250 --> 01:20:30,040
Ipromise,in front of my Twitter friends,that his life  will turn upside down the daylreveal the information.

1527
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:35,920
 So we have to wait. There will be internal investigations,as promised by the new official.

1528
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,830
 judicial investigation So we will leave it. We have to show respect to their

1529
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:42,880
be appointed asa member of the central committee.  We heard from aprogram in Ming Jian that he will

1530
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,750
So you just mentioned that he has been under investigation 

1531
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,880
 and the other source said he is going to bepromoted,which areweto believe?

1532
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:56,120
Ithink perhaps Fu Zhenhua sent you and Mr He money 

1533
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:58,420
 He couldn't get into the central committee.

1534
01:20:58,790 --> 01:21:02,210
 central committee, don't you worry about that. Even the notion! He will not be promoted into the

1535
01:21:02,210 --> 01:21:05,830
If he really does get in,there willbe 1 more than 10 million people protesting.

1536
01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:10,460
Havent you heard from the Global Times that they don't allow their headlines to be themed overseas? 

1537
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:17,540
 Global Times is awesome. In factreally,really awesome

1538
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,880
 Without Global Times,you wouldn't realize how stupid these officials are.

1539
01:21:23,620 --> 01:21:27,460
Without Global Times, you don't even know what they think 

1540
01:21:27,925 --> 01:21:29,425
Politicians read Caixin and Global Times.

1541
01:21:30,580 --> 01:21:32,790
 And you will know who the boss is and what he wants.

1542
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:36,880
 So Xiaopingplease follow the Fu Zhenhua incident.

1543
01:21:37,420 --> 01:21:40,250
 The result is totally predictable.

1544
01:21:42,170 --> 01:21:43,710
 Blimeylots of questions.

1545
01:21:45,710 --> 01:21:47,000
 Don't stare at my questions

1546
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,120
You have to reply to my questions,without always trying to escape 

1547
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,420
 Fine,lam afraid now,like achild.

1548
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:57,420
1 Rightright.OneUSDfor each questionok?

1549
01:21:57,420 --> 01:22:02,500
is not a good attitude towards our viewers. No. You always avoid my questions. This NO

1550
01:22:02,670 --> 01:22:03,540
 Ihave to criticize it.

1551
01:22:03,540 --> 01:22:04,250
 Fine.

1552
01:22:04,250 --> 01:22:05,120
 So,to the next question.

1553
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:13,040
1000 You can make 1000 episodes of your videos,but as of yet

1554
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:18,170
Ihaven't yet seen a shocking one. 

1555
01:22:18,210 --> 01:22:20,210
 When are you going to release one?

1556
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:24,500
 Such information,as you may realize

1557
01:22:24,620 --> 01:22:26,420
involves very serious legal consideration. 

1558
01:22:26,460 --> 01:22:30,040
 We sent those scientifically processed videos

1559
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,080
for review twice on 37th street. 37

1560
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:38,210
 And they made it clear that the videos couldn't be out.

1561
01:22:38,210 --> 01:22:41,710
They are too direct in what they show say an official was yelling on the bed. 

1562
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:45,460
 We can show his face,just not his genitals,

1563
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:48,040
 butthe girl hesleptwith,

1564
01:22:48,580 --> 01:22:51,000
16 was,somehow, just 16 years old.

1565
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,710
 Hegotthegirl inbed

1566
01:22:53,790 --> 01:22:58,000
And this official kept yelling she is avirgin  and I should be able to see the blood.

1567
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,500
Hit her untill see the blood 

1568
01:23:00,210 --> 01:23:04,120
 The girl said,Iama virginWhylcan't see the blood?

1569
01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:07,620
 We could expose the official,but what about the girl

1570
01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:08,460
We have to think about her as well. 

1571
01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:11,040
She is still underage. So this is the first concern. 

1572
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:11,880
Secondly 

1573
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,960
 relationships with both mothers and daughters. there are some officials who have illicit

1574
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,000
 and even perverted ones.

1575
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,920
 This is a serious crime in the US.This is a crime

1576
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,830
Sono matter how you handle it you still don't have the right toplay it. 

1577
01:23:24,830 --> 01:23:28,670
If the concerned parties give their consent,then the videos can be used as evidence in court. 

1578
01:23:28,710 --> 01:23:32,460
 But we just couldn't play those videos. Thisis anissue.

1579
01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:37,000
And another issue is that money was involved. 

1580
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,290
 They paid after messing around with mothers and daughters.

1581
01:23:38,290 --> 01:23:42,380
 Say there is a handsome officia

1582
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,500
 has an affair with both the mother and the daughter.

1583
01:23:44,620 --> 01:23:46,670
 He pays them money. He likes to throw money at it.

1584
01:23:46,670 --> 01:23:50,000
 Wehave tapes for it.

1585
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,750
 a negative impact upon Chinese society Once these videos are out,they will have

1586
01:23:53,790 --> 01:23:54,960
 So after all,

1587
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,170
firstlywe have legal concerns. 

1588
01:23:58,170 --> 01:24:01,380
Secondly.Ireally don'twantthem tobeout. 

1589
01:24:01,540 --> 01:24:03,290
 Say there is apretty hostess.

1590
01:24:03,670 --> 01:24:07,290
 she has a long term affair with an official.

1591
01:24:07,420 --> 01:24:11,170
a request that she wanted to become an official.  And then one day, he drank alot. The hostess made

1592
01:24:11,170 --> 01:24:14,580
So he slapped her hard. Her ears and nose were bleeding 

1593
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,540
 The hostess is famous.

1594
01:24:17,620 --> 01:24:20,080
 Everyone will see this as vioience

1595
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:25,120
· Itis no longer a third-grade film,but anactof violence.

1596
01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:28,620
 Solhave already applied

1597
01:24:28,750 --> 01:24:32,250
to prohibit people under the age of 18 from  being present at our global press conference.

1598
01:24:32,250 --> 01:24:36,580
 And informed both the judge and the court that

1599
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:40,825
part of the video would possibly be played.

1600
01:24:41,290 --> 01:24:44,170
So friends,I can understand your curiosity 

1601
01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:49,250
but trust me, once you watch the videos,you will have nightmares 

1602
01:24:49,380 --> 01:24:53,500
 Andlbelieve that your pretty wife,

1603
01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:56,960
 daughter,or mother won't dare to go onto the street.

1604
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,210
thingit would definitely lead to social instability · The impact can be significant. And one more

1605
01:25:02,290 --> 01:25:06,000
 Solam now speaking to the new official.

1606
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,120
In my 91 books of information 91

1607
01:25:09,250 --> 01:25:10,920
we are not only talking about 91 people 9191

1608
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:18,290
of people involved in these 91 books let me reiterate,there are hundreds 91

1609
01:25:18,290 --> 01:25:20,710
lam talking about officials,not the person related to officials 

1610
01:25:20,710 --> 01:25:23,420
 There are hundreds of officials involved.

1611
01:25:23,420 --> 01:25:26,830
 Please ask the central officials to takea look at what they did

1612
01:25:26,830 --> 01:25:30,000
these corrupt officials and nation traitors. 

1613
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,710
 All the measures against corruption adultery

1614
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:38,710
ofto forge iron, one must be strong and moral corruption, and the campaigr 

1615
01:25:38,710 --> 01:25:44,250
 will just bring superficial changes.

1616
01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:46,210
 You keep going onI won't explain it for you.

1617
01:25:46,210 --> 01:25:52,960
corruptitis horrible.ltis the devil in disguise  Don't pretend to be clean when you are

1618
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:58,080
 Devil in disguise,it is horrendous. And youwill destroy thewhole world.

1619
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,580
Solsay everything has just begun 

1620
01:26:01,710 --> 01:26:04,620
 They said that they wanted to kill me. They wanted meto disappear.

1621
01:26:04,670 --> 01:26:07,380
They would do whatever they could-cheats,  kidnappingand frame-up,anything you can think of.

1622
01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:09,580
That's what a local government told me. 

1623
01:26:09,710 --> 01:26:13,710
Ionly told them that the US is a really civilized country 

1624
01:26:13,710 --> 01:26:16,670
 lt says, Mr.Guo,I don't demand any information from you. You just have to tell me what information you have to hand.

1625
01:26:16,670 --> 01:26:18,250
 Ican saylbelieve inyou

1626
01:26:18,250 --> 01:26:21,250
 In the US,they arrest people who tell lies,they arrest liars.

1627
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,830
 Lawyers can catch you outif you tell lies.

1628
01:26:25,710 --> 01:26:28,120
But they believe in your words,unless you prove yourself to be false 

1629
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,000
 So when I told that what l have,

1630
01:26:30,350 --> 01:26:32,975
they said it was a total nightmare.

1631
01:26:33,250 --> 01:26:35,540
Ireally hope this thing doesn't leak out one day 

1632
01:26:35,540 --> 01:26:38,500
The consequences would be way too significant 

1633
01:26:38,500 --> 01:26:40,290
 But you have to know,Mr.Xiaoping

1634
01:26:40,330 --> 01:26:43,330
you have to be patient Hey you are impatient 

1635
01:26:44,460 --> 01:26:46,580
Over the past few years, 

1636
01:26:46,580 --> 01:26:50,170
 Ihave got a feeling that all of the officials

1637
01:26:50,170 --> 01:26:51,920
 don't believe that Guo Wenguiis capable

1638
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,670
and have got the money and guts. 

1639
01:26:55,790 --> 01:26:58,170
 So how did l fight against them over the years

1640
01:26:58,170 --> 01:26:59,880
 Iproved to them that I do have the guts and nerve

1641
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,210
 and the money after all.Iproved my strength to them.

1642
01:27:04,210 --> 01:27:06,040
 They questioned the information I have

1643
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,830
 saying thatwe have checked your information about an official

1644
01:27:08,830 --> 01:27:09,790
 and itis clean.

1645
01:27:09,790 --> 01:27:11,380
To be honest,I don't want to explain to them. 

1646
01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:14,750
 Ihold the information

1647
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:18,250
The reason Iset up several spots around the world is that 

1648
01:27:18,420 --> 01:27:21,620
 oncelam killed,all the information Ihave will definitely be exposed automatically

1649
01:27:21,670 --> 01:27:23,580
 Then,no one will ask me to bear any legal responsibility at all

1650
01:27:23,580 --> 01:27:25,920
 What legal responsibility will l have to bear when lam dead?

1651
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,210
You will knowby then 

1652
01:27:29,210 --> 01:27:30,710
if Guo Wengui has got the money. 

1653
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,920
 the guts,and the information.

1654
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:38,540
So,what l have released so far,franklyare only appetizers 

1655
01:27:38,540 --> 01:27:39,920
 It is just the beginning or has it started yet

1656
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:44,540
 Everything has not yet started,really. The dayis yettocome.

1657
01:27:44,670 --> 01:27:46,330
 Forareal beginning,there won't be just connection interruption.

1658
01:27:46,330 --> 01:27:49,710
 There will be guns,cannons and nuclear missiles.

1659
01:27:49,710 --> 01:27:53,830
 All are possible. They would be scared.Why lt involves militants

1660
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,330
of high ranking militants are involved. In the information to be exposed a lot 

1661
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,710
 Why dolpity them

1662
01:28:00,710 --> 01:28:03,120
They would be put in jail after doing their job 

1663
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,120
 they would be arrested. See how weary they will be.

1664
01:28:06,170 --> 01:28:11,540
But they are corrupt. They made a fortune and have complicated sexual relationships 

1665
01:28:11,540 --> 01:28:12,580
They messed around with virgins 

1666
01:28:12,710 --> 01:28:17,420
 young virgin. How nauseous

1667
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:19,040
 Allthe killings

1668
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,000
and the planned car crash are no fun  We still have not expose them yet

1669
01:28:26,830 --> 01:28:30,040
 Are those videos, according to what you just said,

1670
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,620
 relatedtoobscenity

1671
01:28:34,460 --> 01:28:36,170
Pervert and obscenity 

1672
01:28:36,170 --> 01:28:37,080
 Allof them

1673
01:28:37,290 --> 01:28:38,540
 Not allbut mostof them.

1674
01:28:38,540 --> 01:28:39,330
 Mostof them.

1675
01:28:39,330 --> 01:28:41,920
Because they are inter-related,right 

1676
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,750
at the same time, right,this can't bewrong  Just like you,being civilized and handsome

1677
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,620
So,lam curious 

1678
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:52,830
 how did you manage to collect those videos?

1679
01:28:53,460 --> 01:28:55,620
 Just leave it,otherwise they may go after you

1680
01:28:55,620 --> 01:28:58,170
 they would kill you. You would panic

1681
01:28:58,170 --> 01:29:01,420
No,Irepresent the publicand it is our right to know that. 

1682
01:29:01,420 --> 01:29:06,420
 Twitterfriends,don't even try to seek them.

1683
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:09,540
 Once you have them you can mark my words

1684
01:29:09,540 --> 01:29:10,540
you are riding on a tiger's back 

1685
01:29:10,540 --> 01:29:12,290
You wouldn't be able to get off or go up 

1686
01:29:12,330 --> 01:29:16,250
 All the officials in Beijing approached me want to get a hold of them.

1687
01:29:16,420 --> 01:29:19,580
 They want to mess with me.

1688
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,920
 They don't realize the danger

1689
01:29:24,290 --> 01:29:26,960
 The thing is,once you get hold of it,

1690
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,290
your life would be in danger. So don't even try to get hold of it 

1691
01:29:30,290 --> 01:29:34,040
Forme,it was just arandom chance to get hold of some 

1692
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:38,960
And later on,Idetermined my life's goal  and whatl would like to do in my life

1693
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:41,960
 Then lactively looked for more information

1694
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,620
The more information l obtained,the  more horrible my life has become.

1695
01:29:44,710 --> 01:29:47,620
At first,Iwas addicted to acquiring more.  And at last,it only turned into a nightmare.

1696
01:29:47,790 --> 01:29:50,330
 So perhaps itis my mission

1697
01:29:50,330 --> 01:29:52,080
that the God assigned me 

1698
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,380
 And then I realized this is an opportunity and the videos will beuseful

1699
01:29:55,380 --> 01:29:56,750
 Thisis not for personal benefit

1700
01:29:56,750 --> 01:29:59,540
 Watching these videos will drive me insane.

1701
01:29:59,580 --> 01:30:02,830
I think they will help me realize my goals 

1702
01:30:03,620 --> 01:30:07,420
So those videos were recorded by two  kinds of people,andlam not one of them.

1703
01:30:07,420 --> 01:30:09,380
First,they may be aproduct of the political fights among officials. 

1704
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,580
 They tried to reveal other's secrets,and ljust happened to get a hold of them

1705
01:30:13,710 --> 01:30:16,790
 Secondly,those videos were recorded by the parties involved

1706
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,290
 They tried to use it as evidence or blackmail others in the future.

1707
01:30:19,420 --> 01:30:20,920
 So they ended up in my possession.

1708
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,380
 They are the best evidence.

1709
01:30:23,380 --> 01:30:30,290
They will be evidence to corruption,and they are the  key in changing the current corrupt political environment.

1710
01:30:34,420 --> 01:30:40,540
 Soyou mentioned the global press conference.

1711
01:30:41,710 --> 01:30:45,120
Ibelieve that a lot of people will pay attention to the conference. 

1712
01:30:45,170 --> 01:30:47,040
Some journalists even asked me 

1713
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:51,880
 for help for raising question in the conference.

1714
01:30:52,460 --> 01:30:54,000
 A lot of people are looking forward to it

1715
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,210
 and hoping itis areal future.

1716
01:30:57,330 --> 01:31:00,710
 But this press conference has been postponed several times

1717
01:31:00,830 --> 01:31:02,920
 And according to the latest information

1718
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,380
 as you told us,you are going to have two global press conferences.

1719
01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:09,120
 One would be held two weeks before the 19th CPC National Congress,and the other

1720
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:13,670
8· would be held in August. Sowe have the feeling that

1721
01:31:13,670 --> 01:31:16,290
 you donit really want to have the global press conference.

1722
01:31:16,290 --> 01:31:19,830
And itis just a bluff 

1723
01:31:20,420 --> 01:31:22,120
 How would you respond to that

1724
01:31:22,580 --> 01:31:24,040
 Of course that is not true.

1725
01:31:25,580 --> 01:31:30,460
 When dealing with the national traitors and officials

1726
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,210
There aretwo taboos 

1727
01:31:34,290 --> 01:31:38,790
The first one is,that everything lsay and every piece  of evidence that I have presented have to be real

1728
01:31:40,170 --> 01:31:43,540
 Iwill not and cannot threaten others.ltis not going to work.

1729
01:31:43,540 --> 01:31:45,040
 lt will only be your weakness.

1730
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,580
 When you threaten him you are going against the law.

1731
01:31:46,580 --> 01:31:49,380
 And if I deliver false information

1732
01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:54,830
Iwill have to pay a serious price. Meanwhile,when dealing with these traitors ·

1733
01:31:54,830 --> 01:31:56,420
 thereisakey.

1734
01:31:56,540 --> 01:31:59,670
 Regarding the global press conference,

1735
01:31:59,750 --> 01:32:03,040
110 we have to be hundred or thousand times more powerful than them.

1736
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,040
 1or 10 times will not be sufficient.

1737
01:32:05,170 --> 01:32:06,420
 Our country is in their control.

1738
01:32:06,420 --> 01:32:10,080
 Their arrogance and pretentiousness exceed your imagination.

1739
01:32:10,460 --> 01:32:16,210
 So for this global press conference,I will fight with wisdom,courage,and ruthlessness.

1740
01:32:16,330 --> 01:32:20,040
 In regards to wisdom,I won't tell them when the conference will be held.I won't let them know

1741
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,830
 PerhapsI will have the conference right after this interview.

1742
01:32:23,670 --> 01:32:24,460
 This is the point

1743
01:32:24,460 --> 01:32:28,960
For courage, what I reveal,will be breaking news. 

1744
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,710
 That's the only way for me to achieve my goal.

1745
01:32:30,710 --> 01:32:33,420
 Lastlyitis ruthlessness.Whatis this about

1746
01:32:33,420 --> 01:32:37,750
 Thinking l wouldn't dare to reveal the information,they bullied me

1747
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:42,580
 and continued to deceive me.I will make thempay for what they did tome.

1748
01:32:42,620 --> 01:32:44,540
Let me speak from myhear 

1749
01:32:45,710 --> 01:32:49,830
to those who lied to me,who fooled me,who threatened me 

1750
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:53,670
 Theywill haveto pay for what they did.

1751
01:32:53,710 --> 01:32:55,750
 the global press conference will definitely be held

1752
01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:58,960
lt will be well organized in an unexpected way 

1753
01:33:00,670 --> 01:33:06,460
So you mentioned that there will be a mysterious 

1754
01:33:06,580 --> 01:33:09,540
 heavyweight guest at the conference. Can we have your word?

1755
01:33:10,580 --> 01:33:13,750
 Havel said anything untrue at all? Give me some examples.

1756
01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:17,460
 So,can you tell us something about the mysterious guest

1757
01:33:18,380 --> 01:33:20,330
 I think lots of people note that

1758
01:33:20,330 --> 01:33:22,460
 and make a good guess

1759
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,290
/ It is him/her who took the initiative to come tomeand tobea partof the conference

1760
01:33:26,290 --> 01:33:28,330
/ He/she was scared of us in thepast

1761
01:33:28,330 --> 01:33:30,120
 But not anymore.

1762
01:33:30,830 --> 01:33:34,000
/ HonestlyI would like my lawyer to deal with him/her

1763
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,290
/ provide comes from himself/herself,not me. The information that he/she is going to

1764
01:33:36,460 --> 01:33:39,170
It really touches on national secrets. /

1765
01:33:39,170 --> 01:33:42,460
 Whatl am currently doing doesn't touch on national secrets.

1766
01:33:42,460 --> 01:33:47,790
were audited legally and by different countries  All of the sources of the information that l revealed

1767
01:33:47,790 --> 01:33:48,540
 So they are legal.

1768
01:33:48,540 --> 01:33:50,920
Ican quote the sources of the information that I disclosed 

1769
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,210
/ But what the guest has,is closely related to the central government.

1770
01:33:54,210 --> 01:33:56,250
 He/she has got photos

1771
01:33:56,250 --> 01:34:02,710
 documents of the general secretary the central office and national archives

1772
01:34:02,710 --> 01:34:07,210
 Historical and military documents. Will it constitute treason?

1773
01:34:07,330 --> 01:34:11,000
What l am doing can't breach the law 

1774
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,330
so lhave told the guest to communicate with my lawyer first. 

1775
01:34:13,460 --> 01:34:14,670
 To find out what he/she would do.

1776
01:34:14,670 --> 01:34:19,540
 And then my US team confirmed that itis legal to disclose the information

1777
01:34:19,580 --> 01:34:20,420
 Solgive him/her time.

1778
01:34:20,420 --> 01:34:23,290
2010 From the original 20 minutes,to 10 minutes

1779
01:34:23,290 --> 01:34:24,710
1 And later on,he/she requested 1 hour

1780
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:30,540
VIF And then there will be one,two. One more VIP

1781
01:34:30,670 --> 01:34:33,540
 This old manl old woman has been silent for several decades

1782
01:34:33,670 --> 01:34:35,500
And now, he/she is going to do something big 

1783
01:34:35,500 --> 01:34:38,290
This may be a significant historical event. This 

1784
01:34:38,420 --> 01:34:40,290
 old manlold woman said helshe will present some evidence.

1785
01:34:40,290 --> 01:34:43,960
10 He/she only asked for 10 minutes.

1786
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:48,420
responsibility for exposing the information.  So the biggest issue is the law. The legal

1787
01:34:48,420 --> 01:34:50,170
It has been a huge hindrance 

1788
01:34:50,290 --> 01:34:51,540
And the second issue is security 

1789
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,380
That's what our global press conference is working on 

1790
01:34:54,420 --> 01:34:56,620
 To the national traitors

1791
01:34:56,620 --> 01:34:59,620
They thinklam not going to hold the global press conference. 

1792
01:34:59,620 --> 01:35:02,080
 Well,let see.

1793
01:35:05,460 --> 01:35:07,380
 So,do we have Ling Wancheng

1794
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:08,750
 Ididn't say that.

1795
01:35:09,670 --> 01:35:14,420
Yes,you didn't. And the other VIPlets talk abouthim/her. 

1796
01:35:14,420 --> 01:35:17,080
 So this old manl old woman has kept a low profile for years

1797
01:35:17,710 --> 01:35:18,960
 And will come out soon.

1798
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,000
Ihave to confirm their identity Get ready internet  friends,we are going to reveal his/her identity soon.

1799
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:28,000
So far Mr Guo disclosed two pieces of information  pertaining to the global press conference.

1800
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,000
 despite disclosing their identities

1801
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,880
 One controls national secrets will attend the conference.

1802
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:36,670
 and the other one has kept a low profile for so many years.

1803
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,580
 There was an article on the Mingjin website

1804
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,540
 about Mr.Guo.ltclaimed that Mr.Guo

1805
01:35:45,540 --> 01:35:51,290
tried to achieve his goals by exaggeration. 

1806
01:35:51,420 --> 01:35:52,920
 Sayforexample

1807
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:53,960
He didn't give any example 

1808
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:54,960
Who would make his claim without making an example? 

1809
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,620
 He just mentioned that you make exaggerated statements.

1810
01:35:56,620 --> 01:35:57,920
 That is done by Wu Mao

1811
01:35:59,790 --> 01:36:04,580
And the article criticized you for only welcoming praise 

1812
01:36:04,750 --> 01:36:06,500
 but ignoring the criticism.

1813
01:36:07,330 --> 01:36:12,750
Forthis impression how are you going to respond to that 

1814
01:36:12,750 --> 01:36:16,960
 Mr.Xiaoping,thisis not a good question

1815
01:36:18,540 --> 01:36:20,620
Twitter Since l have been on Twitter

1816
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:26,540
Ihaven't censored negative comments,I seldom do so. 

1817
01:36:26,540 --> 01:36:31,040
 My Twitter friends are not as stupid

1818
01:36:31,170 --> 01:36:32,290
 and ignorant as Mr Zhang Lifan thinks they are.

1819
01:36:32,290 --> 01:36:35,790
. And every time when Wu Maos or Qi Maos come to leave comments,

1820
01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:38,830
 My Twitter friends help me fight against them.

1821
01:36:39,790 --> 01:36:42,210
Twitter Ihave never used any foul language on Twitter.

1822
01:36:42,380 --> 01:36:43,830
Twitter If someone uses foul language

1823
01:36:43,830 --> 01:36:46,830
Twitter orsnaps at others

1824
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,670
 and insults others on my Twitter,I willblock him/her.

1825
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,425
But is there an increase of critics?

1826
01:36:53,210 --> 01:36:55,540
 Many people criticise me as you can see

1827
01:36:56,475 --> 01:36:58,775
There are 99.9% of people who support me.

1828
01:36:59,420 --> 01:37:02,290
So there is 1 billion hits each day. 10

1829
01:37:02,330 --> 01:37:04,580
Twitter1000 And there are more than 10 million followers for my Twitter account.

1830
01:37:05,325 --> 01:37:06,825
With such a high hit rate, I achieve a supprt rate of 99%.

1831
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,500
0.01% Sowho are the 0.01%critics

1832
01:37:10,620 --> 01:37:12,080
 Most of them are Wu Mao.

1833
01:37:12,210 --> 01:37:14,920
 Say for example, your teacher and friends,

1834
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,540
 and Mr. He Ping said my daughter and wife didn't showup,then of courselcan't accept that

1835
01:37:18,540 --> 01:37:21,250
20 Mr. Zhang Lifan said my 20 million followers is not a big number

1836
01:37:21,540 --> 01:37:23,670
 and he could easily get a dozen millions of followers on Sina.

1837
01:37:23,670 --> 01:37:27,880
you criticized me for only having 20 million. 620 You only got 60 thousand in ten years,and

1838
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:32,750
and said my Twitter friends were stupid and they were not upright. You are lying 

1839
01:37:32,750 --> 01:37:38,040
 Of coursel can't accept that.If lam wrongIwelcome criticism.

1840
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:39,790
If lam a person who is not willing to take criticism 

1841
01:37:39,790 --> 01:37:41,460
then I, Guo Wengui wouldn't have been able to pull through and achieve what l have achieved. 

1842
01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:45,710
 This is a fact Don't listen to hearsaylook for the truth.

1843
01:37:45,710 --> 01:37:50,620
And one more thing,for the allegation of exaggerating 

1844
01:37:50,750 --> 01:37:52,460
 show me proof for any exaggeration.

1845
01:37:52,460 --> 01:37:54,460
 Say Zhang asked me to promise

1846
01:37:54,460 --> 01:37:58,790
419 on 19th April 1

1847
01:37:58,830 --> 01:38:04,620
on 19th Mayto sue against the red notice 519519

1848
01:38:04,670 --> 01:38:06,500
and issue a reward of reward of USD500,000 Twitter50

1849
01:38:06,750 --> 01:38:09,580
20 Within20 days,Idid allof them

1850
01:38:09,580 --> 01:38:13,960
lam the only Chinese filing a lawsuit against the Interpol and I have received positive responses. 

1851
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,830
 Things will work out in the end

1852
01:38:16,210 --> 01:38:18,960
 Forthe first one,we can only see the results in one year.

1853
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,040
 We evaluate him

1854
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,500
But now,as shown on the Internet,the money has beer 

1855
01:38:23,620 --> 01:38:26,210
 used on the technologythe nucleartechnology.Right

1856
01:38:26,210 --> 01:38:28,120
 This technology is useful and we have been using it.

1857
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,290
 Ihas kept my promise. How about youMr.Zhang Lifan?

1858
01:38:31,290 --> 01:38:35,120
 So tellme.What has he done in his lifeSo this kindof doubt

1859
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:36,880
this kind of suspicion creates problems. 

1860
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:42,420
You are deeply affected by Wu Mao's negative thoughts,Xiaoping 

1861
01:38:42,420 --> 01:38:45,080
So you should be more objective given your legal background. 

1862
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,380
I have speak on behalf of part of the people 

1863
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:49,960
 Not part,buta very small part of them

1864
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,750
 You can represent most of the Twitter friends,but

1865
01:38:52,750 --> 01:38:54,080
you can't represent the minority 

1866
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,290
I think all of you will agree with me. 

1867
01:39:00,830 --> 01:39:03,330
You look more handsome and your questions have become better 

1868
01:39:03,540 --> 01:39:08,380
The next question is related to one of the people 

1869
01:39:08,380 --> 01:39:10,080
 you report on which is a nation traitor.

1870
01:39:10,170 --> 01:39:13,790
 He'sakey figure. This is Wang Qishan

1871
01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:15,500
l will ask questions about Wang Qishan 

1872
01:39:18,460 --> 01:39:25,250
419 On 4/19you kicked the buck of Wang Qishan awaydidn't you

1873
01:39:25,290 --> 01:39:26,920
 You passed the buck away.

1874
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,920
 But the VOA incident has affected the development

1875
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,790
 of this incident.In general

1876
01:39:34,580 --> 01:39:40,080
people feel like they haven't got enough  disclosures about Wang Qishan HNA

1877
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,920
and Guan Jun. 

1878
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,710
 They even think you don't have enough information.

1879
01:39:46,290 --> 01:39:48,620
 How would you respond to this question today

1880
01:39:50,250 --> 01:39:52,670
I think this affects the interview 

1881
01:39:52,670 --> 01:39:56,040
Ineed to sort it out. This is not good. 

1882
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,500
 Don't be distracted by the outside world

1883
01:39:58,670 --> 01:40:01,000
Ineed to divert my attention. I'm a bit stressed. 

1884
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,710
Yes,just answer this question properly 

1885
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,170
 Your story of Wang Qishan is our next stage.

1886
01:40:06,170 --> 01:40:07,460
You mentioned the name.l won't 

1887
01:40:07,460 --> 01:40:10,830
 Ipromised to the new senior leader thatl won't mention it today

1888
01:40:10,830 --> 01:40:12,580
 Its okay for you to not mention the name. Don't mention it.

1889
01:40:12,580 --> 01:40:19,620
 But can I talk about HNA and Guan Jun And the assets

1890
01:40:19,710 --> 01:40:20,460
 Sure.

1891
01:40:20,500 --> 01:40:26,670
 Then,I will do this first today. Please open picture no.1.

1892
01:40:29,500 --> 01:40:31,460
 Theproperty yousee

1893
01:40:32,500 --> 01:40:35,540
18801 is located atno.18801.

1894
01:40:35,540 --> 01:40:40,040
18804 The asset you reported last time is no.18804.

1895
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:42,540
ltis not far away 

1896
01:40:42,710 --> 01:40:46,420
Very close. And the road to there is also very close 

1897
01:40:46,420 --> 01:40:48,790
No,the house numbers of some neighboring  houses in the US are far from each other

1898
01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:51,040
 Right.Then you check the total value of the house

1899
01:40:51,170 --> 01:40:54,000
Ican't finish counting all these zeros. One digit,two digits,threedigits,fourdigits,five digits,six digits.. 

1900
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,040
256 2.56 million. Paid with cash.No loans.

1901
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,290
The covered area is one digit,two digits,three digits,four digits... 

1902
01:40:59,290 --> 01:40:59,790
 Over50000.

1903
01:40:59,790 --> 01:41:01,920
 Around 53,000 square feet,whichis over 5,000 square meters.

1904
01:41:02,580 --> 01:41:07,830
FrankSuer The owner is Frankson.

1905
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:09,210
FrankSuen The Chinese name of Frank Suen is Suen Fungshan.

1906
01:41:09,210 --> 01:41:13,420
 Heis the husband of Yao Mingduan

1907
01:41:13,790 --> 01:41:18,040
 and Yao Mingduan is Yao Mingshan's elder sisterand the owner of the house

1908
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,290
All his houses are very interesting 

1909
01:41:20,290 --> 01:41:25,750
 Suen Fungshan, Yao Mingshan

1910
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:27,920
residents and the owners of this house.  Suen Yiu and Yao Mingduan are the

1911
01:41:29,500 --> 01:41:34,750
 This is just one of the houses. To Mr. Suen Fungshan,l'm very sorry

1912
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:36,460
 One of my friends is his close friend.

1913
01:41:36,460 --> 01:41:40,000
 He came and interceded to me in these few days.Itold himlhad no options

1914
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,750
disclosure some small things,not big things  since they kept pushing me. Sol will just

1915
01:41:42,750 --> 01:41:46,460
 Thisis one of them. Mr. Xiaoping,as you can see.

1916
01:41:46,460 --> 01:41:49,040
 This is the first disclosure

1917
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,790
 This is the third house.

1918
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,670
 The third house indeed.Let's look atno.2.

1919
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,960
 You said that you believe this belongs to Wang Qishan's family.

1920
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,330
 lt definitely belongs to his family. These are legal documents.

1921
01:42:02,330 --> 01:42:06,330
You see here Yao Mingshan,Yao  Mingduan,Suen Fungshan and Suen Yiu

1922
01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:10,330
 have rights to hold and reside in this house. These are all legal documents.

1923
01:42:10,460 --> 01:42:13,040
 This is the fourth house.I think this is the fourth one.

1924
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,750
1885818858 No.18858.Can you see it What's the total value of this house?

1925
01:42:17,750 --> 01:42:18,750
One digit,two digits,three digits,fourdigits,fivedigits.. 

1926
01:42:18,750 --> 01:42:22,710
27270 have no concept for numbers and time. Should be 270000,right2.7 million.l

1927
01:42:22,710 --> 01:42:23,790
270 2.7million.

1928
01:42:24,380 --> 01:42:28,880
Also paid with cash.43,000 square  feet is around 4,000 square meters.

1929
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,750
The holders are also Yao Mingshan Yao Mingduan 

1930
01:42:32,750 --> 01:42:37,250
FrankSuen Suen Yiu and Frank Suen. Also paid with cash.

1931
01:42:37,420 --> 01:42:40,790
 All documents of this house are top secrets

1932
01:42:41,210 --> 01:42:43,000
 They have all been classified as top secrets.

1933
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,380
No.Some people checked.These things couldn't be found. 

1934
01:42:45,380 --> 01:42:48,540
taxation records couldn't be found  Many of the transaction records and

1935
01:42:48,540 --> 01:42:50,040
No. This is very unbelievable 

1936
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:50,830
because we checked with the original documents. 

1937
01:42:50,830 --> 01:42:53,330
 because we checked with the original documents.

1938
01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:55,710
 The government checked for us

1939
01:42:55,710 --> 01:42:57,330
because we had legal notarization. 

1940
01:42:57,380 --> 01:42:59,830
The US government itself has been investigating 

1941
01:42:59,830 --> 01:43:02,830
 in order to find out who made these documents disappear.Thisis illegalyou know

1942
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,580
Thisis illegal that's why the US government is investigating 

1943
01:43:05,670 --> 01:43:08,380
carry out an investigation in America  Then Zhang Lifan said everyone could

1944
01:43:08,380 --> 01:43:10,540
 Mr.Zhang Lifan,if you can find out a single piece of information.

1945
01:43:10,540 --> 01:43:12,580
I will give you 10 million US dollars 

1946
01:43:12,750 --> 01:43:15,460
 Mark my words:Mr.Zhang Lifan,if you can find out any other houses

1947
01:43:15,460 --> 01:43:16,880
 that they own apart from this one,

1948
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:21,380
Iwill give you 10 million US dollars. Sorry  about that,this person really annoys me.

1949
01:43:21,460 --> 01:43:23,290
Let's not talk about Mr.Zhang 

1950
01:43:23,290 --> 01:43:24,620
 No.Mr. Zhang Lifan always brags.

1951
01:43:24,620 --> 01:43:25,620
 About Zhang Lifan

1952
01:43:25,620 --> 01:43:28,670
 He brags. This is a great insult to me,

1953
01:43:28,830 --> 01:43:31,960
my co-workers and my money 

1954
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,920
 And he gives great leniency to the nation traitors.

1955
01:43:35,325 --> 01:43:36,825
This is something I can't tolerate. Let's move on to No.3

1956
01:43:37,500 --> 01:43:39,620
 Don't be distracted by Mr.Zhang

1957
01:43:39,710 --> 01:43:44,380
Look.Ihave a gift for you. A surprising gift 

1958
01:43:44,500 --> 01:43:46,040
This is about Yao Mingshan. ..

1959
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:46,920
 Read it yourself.

1960
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:53,040
 Yao Mingshan's ID number and US passport number.That means she's a US citizen.

1961
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,120
 Read on.

1962
01:43:55,120 --> 01:44:00,620
1949111 This is Yao Mingshan,female,born on January 11,1949.

1963
01:44:00,710 --> 01:44:07,830
IDnumber110102194901110429. 110102194901110429

1964
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:11,920
US passport number422XXXXXXX 422XXXXXXX

1965
01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:16,425
US social security number: 614584035

1966
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,920
1992 registered in California in 1992.

1967
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:25,580
that one wejust mentioned right 18840 US address:No.18840.Notfarfrom

1968
01:44:27,290 --> 01:44:30,960
Lived in here since May1996.She also lives here. 19965

1969
01:44:31,710 --> 01:44:34,960
No.What's even more unbelievable.. 

1970
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:35,880
 Soyou...

1971
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,210
I'm telling youtodaythe focustoday 

1972
01:44:38,210 --> 01:44:43,580
 isMs. Yao Mingshan's status in the US.

1973
01:44:43,580 --> 01:44:44,420
 She'saUScitizen

1974
01:44:44,500 --> 01:44:46,420
 She has an American passport. So she'sa US citizen,isn't she

1975
01:44:46,580 --> 01:44:49,830
To forge iron,one must bestrong.  And she has a social security number.

1976
01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:51,000
 First of all,Wangis anaked officialwhose family members have all gone abroad.

1977
01:44:51,170 --> 01:44:53,000
 He should be arrested and dismissed from office.

1978
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,250
 There's no doubt that Yao Mingshan isa US citizen

1979
01:44:55,250 --> 01:44:58,540
 Wang Qishan's wife is a US citizen

1980
01:44:58,540 --> 01:44:59,040
Exactly. 

1981
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:00,500
 This has been verified.

1982
01:45:00,500 --> 01:45:03,210
 Yes. How major is this Is it major or not

1983
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,540
Its up for the audience to judge 

1984
01:45:06,540 --> 01:45:08,380
 No.I realize you are so calm during the talk

1985
01:45:08,540 --> 01:45:09,620
Yes,because l'm a host 

1986
01:45:09,620 --> 01:45:11,880
 Do you know what an official told mea fewday ago

1987
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,620
 He said,If you can show one US document of Yao Mingshan's,

1988
01:45:15,620 --> 01:45:20,210
 Wengui China will face a huge political shock.Why

1989
01:45:20,250 --> 01:45:22,210
26 None of the 260,000 party members arrested

1990
01:45:22,380 --> 01:45:26,170
 would accept the fact that they were arrested.

1991
01:45:26,250 --> 01:45:31,080
And people want all the 9.6 million cases related to the anti-corruption cracked down to be overturned. 960

1992
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,000
If not todayit would definitely be tomorrow. 

1993
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,500
Don't forget about this. There are even more unbelievable things 

1994
01:45:36,500 --> 01:45:43,290
 I'm talking about American properties,identity and citizenship

1995
01:45:43,330 --> 01:45:44,750
 This is not ajoke.

1996
01:45:44,750 --> 01:45:49,580
It's a matter of politics,economy and party discipline. 

1997
01:45:50,830 --> 01:45:56,920
should take his own life.OkayI'm joking.  Just because of this,Mr.Zhang Lifan

1998
01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,250
 You always protect others,not me.Okay,theno.4.

1999
01:46:00,250 --> 01:46:04,920
 Thisis sensational objectively speaking

2000
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,500
I won't talk nonsense with you. Thisis not really sensational yet. 

2001
01:46:08,500 --> 01:46:10,750
 Yao Mingduan is also a US citizen

2002
01:46:11,790 --> 01:46:15,540
bornon November 28,1950.Americanpassport number 19501128

2003
01:46:15,670 --> 01:46:18,580
this one is complete422012182. 422012182

2004
01:46:18,580 --> 01:46:19,880
Oh Ihave to take care of my Twitter friends 

2005
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:27,000
ID number:110102195011280463. 110102195011280463

2006
01:46:27,150 --> 01:46:31,475
American social security number: 6093873880.

2007
01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:35,080
1990 Registered in California in 1990. These people all live together.

2008
01:46:35,210 --> 01:46:37,170
They have been living here together since May1996. 19965

2009
01:46:37,170 --> 01:46:41,120
You should look at the registered address 18840 is the beginning. 18840

2010
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:42,750
 This...

2011
01:46:42,750 --> 01:46:47,210
 But you should notice his whole family hasa huge problem

2012
01:46:47,330 --> 01:46:50,170
if you compare this to the next disclosures. 

2013
01:46:50,330 --> 01:46:55,210
 The disclosures today are sensational aren't they

2014
01:46:55,380 --> 01:46:59,210
 Okaylet"s move on. The fifth person is Suen Fungshan.

2015
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,580
Ihave to take care of my Twitter friends. They are my favorite people 

2016
01:47:06,500 --> 01:47:11,460
194886· Suen Fungshan,born on August 6,1948.NationalityAmerican.

2017
01:47:11,540 --> 01:47:17,120
H0019488501 Passport number starts with H,0019488501.

2018
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:24,380
in California in 1990.This is Suen Fungshan 61534711290 Social security number:615347112.Registered

2019
01:47:25,170 --> 01:47:26,210
 Next one.

2020
01:47:29,540 --> 01:47:33,790
36 Suen Yiu. This one is very young,36 years old

2021
01:47:33,790 --> 01:47:40,880
Because she is...This is private because she is disabled. 

2022
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,790
4 lt only says her US passport number starts with 4.

2023
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:50,000
 Yes.Iwant to give her some leeway. Some leeway for this one.

2024
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,460
Her ID numberis not disclosed Only the last three digits,614. 614

2025
01:47:52,460 --> 01:47:54,880
 She's just a girl. We all have sons and daughters

2026
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:55,540
 She lives in Hong Kong now.

2027
01:47:55,540 --> 01:47:57,580
 But I'm telling you.Ican tell you today

2028
01:47:57,710 --> 01:48:02,120
 She's not...She's registered legally in the US

2029
01:48:02,210 --> 01:48:08,420
 as Yao Mingshan and her husband's daughter.Already registered.Hangon.

2030
01:48:10,210 --> 01:48:11,620
 Next one.Theseventh one.

2031
01:48:11,620 --> 01:48:16,080
By the wayatthe end of this interview with Mr.Guo Wengui 

2032
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,040
we will invite Mr. Guo to answer some questions 

2033
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:23,670
 If you have any questions, you can prepare the questions now.

2034
01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:25,580
Everyone must see this 

2035
01:48:25,580 --> 01:48:29,330
 This is Suen Yiu's profile. The font is a bit small.

2036
01:48:29,380 --> 01:48:34,210
She's Wang Qishan and Yao Mingshan's adopted daughter. 

2037
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:40,830
 Yao Mingshan and her sister's properties Suen Yiu is registered as a resident of

2038
01:48:41,710 --> 01:48:43,420
 Aresident is also an owner.

2039
01:48:43,420 --> 01:48:47,420
lt includes her professional career,personal life and contact. 

2040
01:48:47,420 --> 01:48:49,210
 These are all there. Her adoptive father is Wang Qishan.

2041
01:48:50,670 --> 01:48:52,960
 What am l trying to say

2042
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:56,080
 This document has been judicially notarized.

2043
01:48:56,540 --> 01:48:57,880
This is no joke 

2044
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:02,250
 She inherits properties and property ownership.

2045
01:49:02,250 --> 01:49:04,580
 Properties are registered under her name.

2046
01:49:05,250 --> 01:49:09,420
 She's the owner. Next,it's going to be interesting

2047
01:49:10,460 --> 01:49:13,330
The eighth one is in English 

2048
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:17,250
This document has been notarized by the judiciary 

2049
01:49:17,420 --> 01:49:18,580
 It is authoritative.

2050
01:49:18,580 --> 01:49:20,620
It is authoritative. These are all notarized documents 

2051
01:49:20,620 --> 01:49:21,460
 They can be presented to the court.

2052
01:49:21,460 --> 01:49:23,500
Allof them can be presented to the court. 

2053
01:49:23,500 --> 01:49:25,120
Sol'm very sorry 

2054
01:49:25,250 --> 01:49:27,330
Isaidlwouldn't show this girl's picture 

2055
01:49:27,330 --> 01:49:27,880
 but l'm showing it now.

2056
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:28,540
 This is in English.

2057
01:49:28,540 --> 01:49:30,920
 In English. Okay,letit pass now,lam sorry to show her picture.

2058
01:49:31,710 --> 01:49:33,170
Here comes the big boy 

2059
01:49:33,250 --> 01:49:35,620
 Liu Chengjie.

2060
01:49:35,620 --> 01:49:36,380
 Thisis a big name.

2061
01:49:36,380 --> 01:49:40,710
197219 Date of birth:January 9,1972.Mr. Guo said he's an important person.

2062
01:49:40,710 --> 01:49:42,500
We don't know why he's important yet 

2063
01:49:42,500 --> 01:49:43,830
 We will listen to Mr. Guo's explanation later

2064
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:44,960
 His father is famous.

2065
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:50,620
IDnumber110105197201091119. 110105197201091119

2066
01:49:50,710 --> 01:49:55,380
G06848880 Passport number:G06848880.

2067
01:49:55,420 --> 01:49:59,670
There is another one:E48751432 E48751432

2068
01:49:59,670 --> 01:50:03,540
The companies he primarily holds are Haikou Huishi Investment Co.Ltd. 

2069
01:50:03,540 --> 01:50:07,540
 and Beijing Wisch Investment Co.Ltd. Thisis an important person

2070
01:50:07,670 --> 01:50:09,040
 but his name seems unfamiliar to us.

2071
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,420
 Mr.Guocan youexplainplease?

2072
01:50:16,710 --> 01:50:21,420
 Originally l had the DNA reports of him

2073
01:50:21,620 --> 01:50:24,460
DNA his father and mother

2074
01:50:24,460 --> 01:50:31,960
Ihad documents of his father and mother 

2075
01:50:32,330 --> 01:50:35,460
 This is the first time that his photo has been disclosed.

2076
01:50:35,460 --> 01:50:39,750
 He'sa top-secret in China at the moment He's a top-secret

2077
01:50:42,540 --> 01:50:45,170
l won't say who his father and mother are today 

2078
01:50:45,170 --> 01:50:46,540
 What do you mean byhe's a top-secret

2079
01:50:46,710 --> 01:50:48,380
 That means his parents are confidential.

2080
01:50:48,380 --> 01:50:50,670
 His information is confidential.ls this his real name?

2081
01:50:50,670 --> 01:50:53,960
 Hisreal name,photos

2082
01:50:55,170 --> 01:50:58,830
 and all his information are top-secret.

2083
01:51:00,250 --> 01:51:02,420
Hisassets are worth thousands of billions 

2084
01:51:02,420 --> 01:51:03,000
Thousands of billions 

2085
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:04,540
 And also Suen Yiu. She also owns thousands of billions of assets.

2086
01:51:04,540 --> 01:51:06,920
We can see it's thousands of billions later.So.. 

2087
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:10,580
parents are Why don't you disclose it?  You don't want to disclose who his

2088
01:51:10,580 --> 01:51:12,580
 Let the bullet fly fora while.Let's wait fora while.

2089
01:51:12,580 --> 01:51:13,580
 Ok,let's wait fora while.

2090
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,290
DNA We have all their DNA reports

2091
01:51:17,290 --> 01:51:20,380
 We also have the real identities of his parents.

2092
01:51:20,500 --> 01:51:25,710
billions.Let's move on firstokay  They all hold assets of thousands of

2093
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,000
 Todayou illsee Liu Chengjie's photos

2094
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:33,960
ID number and passport for the first time. It's coming 1972

2095
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:39,540
 Big shot.Be prepared,everyone. It's coming

2096
01:51:39,710 --> 01:51:42,250
Mr.Guois like an advertiser today 

2097
01:51:42,290 --> 01:51:45,120
 Oh Guan Jun is coming Here's the special guest.

2098
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:47,580
Date of Birth:September27,1980 1980927

2099
01:51:47,580 --> 01:51:54,460
ID number:110101198009273034. 110101198009273034

2100
01:51:54,540 --> 01:52:00,620
The main company held is Beijing  Meiyuexi CosmeticTechnologyCo.Ltd.

2101
01:52:01,460 --> 01:52:07,000
 This is Mr. Guan Jun's.Please explain.

2102
01:52:10,620 --> 01:52:12,460
 This is about Mr. Guan Jun and his biological father.

2103
01:52:12,540 --> 01:52:19,620
 Mr. Guan Jun also holds thousands of billions RMB.For the identities of his father and mother,

2104
01:52:19,670 --> 01:52:21,670
DNA we have also collected their DNA regarding this

2105
01:52:23,710 --> 01:52:26,460
 people can get thousands of billions RMB Thisis an important person. What kind of

2106
01:52:26,460 --> 01:52:28,330
 What kind of people do you think itis

2107
01:52:28,330 --> 01:52:30,380
11 Move on to the next chart. The 11th one.

2108
01:52:30,500 --> 01:52:33,210
is their involvement in the companies You left us some cliffhangers here. This 

2109
01:52:33,210 --> 01:52:37,170
Twitter Ihave to take care of everyone on my Twitter.

2110
01:52:37,170 --> 01:52:39,500
 lt seems like HNA Group to me.

2111
01:52:39,500 --> 01:52:44,710
The most important thing about Guan Jun is that he  holds shares of Beijing Wisch Investment Co.Ltd.

2112
01:52:45,580 --> 01:52:47,750
 You see, Guan Jun's involvement in Beijing Wisch Investment Co.Ltd.

2113
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:48,750
 Haikou Huishi Investment and Consultation Co.Ltd.,

2114
01:52:48,750 --> 01:52:51,040
Tianjin Yanshan Equity Investment Fund and HNA Group 

2115
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:55,580
Look atallthe connections here. When you look further 

2116
01:52:55,580 --> 01:52:57,080
you will see his relationship with Sanya companies 

2117
01:52:57,170 --> 01:53:02,000
 and his whole business in China's industries

2118
01:53:04,830 --> 01:53:06,580
 What lam showing you right now

2119
01:53:06,670 --> 01:53:08,750
hasn't even reach 1%of his entire business 

2120
01:53:08,750 --> 01:53:11,330
 But you know his assets. He's Guan Jun,

2121
01:53:11,330 --> 01:53:17,290
29% and holds 29% of HNA's share,which equals

2122
01:53:17,380 --> 01:53:20,120
RMB1 trillion announced by HNA Group this year 2900 to RMB290 billion out of HNA's total assets of

2123
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:24,960
 Apart from his assets in HNA,we checked allof his assets in other companies.

2124
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,960
How much he owns About RMB 4 trillion 4

2125
01:53:28,830 --> 01:53:29,920
4 So he owns a total of RMB 4 trillion.

2126
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:31,580
4 Fourtrillion. Next one.

2127
01:53:32,670 --> 01:53:34,170
Then he should be the richest person in China. 

2128
01:53:34,830 --> 01:53:38,830
 The richest person in China. Loot at Liu Chengjin. This is Liu Chengjie's chart.

2129
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:40,420
 You see,my preparations are in vain now

2130
01:53:40,540 --> 01:53:44,420
lhave to look after my Twitter friends too. You have it clearly show on Mingjing TV. We don't have it here 

2131
01:53:44,500 --> 01:53:48,040
 Twitter friends,can you see this

2132
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:49,250
This is his company 

2133
01:53:49,330 --> 01:53:51,920
 Look at who Liu Chengjie interacts with.

2134
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,460
 Look at these companies. Pacific American Investment and Haikou.

2135
01:53:55,540 --> 01:53:57,710
 He also involved with Huishi Company

2136
01:53:58,830 --> 01:54:01,580
 and all these companies assets.

2137
01:54:01,580 --> 01:54:04,670
The value involved is amounted to around RMB4 trillion. 4

2138
01:54:06,500 --> 01:54:08,080
 You will see it in a bit that

2139
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,460
 all of the assets of Liu Chengjie,Guan Jun,Suen Yiu's

2140
01:54:11,460 --> 01:54:15,540
 and finally with Chen Feng will converge. Next one.

2141
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:21,920
 This is interesting

2142
01:54:22,620 --> 01:54:26,040
 See,Suen Yiu's direct investment under her companies

2143
01:54:29,500 --> 01:54:32,040
This is a direct family in a legal sense. 

2144
01:54:34,290 --> 01:54:39,210
 Suen Yiu's personal direct investment and Suen Yiu's direct investment under her companies.

2145
01:54:39,210 --> 01:54:40,330
 They are all hers

2146
01:54:41,620 --> 01:54:42,120
There are dozens of them 

2147
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,290
4 Aslsaid,they are worth about RMB4 trillion.

2148
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:49,210
 You might get confused by some of the enterprises here

2149
01:54:49,210 --> 01:54:52,040
 Among these companies,the most important ones are

2150
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:56,080
Zhonghong Decoration Company, Xinzhong Property  Top Resource Conservation Company Hainan

2151
01:54:56,210 --> 01:55:02,170
and Changsha New World. They're especially related to Changcheng's bad assets 

2152
01:55:02,210 --> 01:55:04,830
and a few big properties in Hainan 

2153
01:55:04,830 --> 01:55:07,670
These are all huge financial institutions in China. 

2154
01:55:07,670 --> 01:55:11,500
Liu Chengjie, Guan Jun and Suen Yiu's companies 

2155
01:55:11,500 --> 01:55:15,620
are related to Changcheng's bad assets and JIC's bad assets. 

2156
01:55:15,790 --> 01:55:19,380
 Only the things controlled by these bad assets are worth a few trillion.

2157
01:55:19,460 --> 01:55:23,460
 They are also involved with many financial institutions. Let's move on.

2158
01:55:27,210 --> 01:55:28,880
lam getting a bit too excited about this.. .

2159
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:30,040
 Mr.Guo,can you take a seatfirst

2160
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:33,420
Werent you concerned about the number  of viewers on your Twitterjust now

2161
01:55:33,460 --> 01:55:35,500
Let them report once and give you some encouragement. 

2162
01:55:35,500 --> 01:55:35,920
 Okay

2163
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,790
 What is the number now?

2164
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,670
Mr. Guoyou can have some water by the way 

2165
01:55:41,670 --> 01:55:43,170
You are also so kind to me today 

2166
01:55:43,170 --> 01:55:47,620
 but Irealize you're testing me.

2167
01:55:47,620 --> 01:55:50,540
Mr.He Ping and Mr. Chen Xiaoping 

2168
01:55:52,170 --> 01:55:59,960
some specific evidence about the HNA issue.. Since the audience expects you to provide 

2169
01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:03,920
All of these specific evidence are undeniable legal documents 

2170
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:10,500
 And many people are concerned about

2171
01:56:10,670 --> 01:56:13,210
of Wang Qishan's wife.Can you actually.. whether you can prove this is the ID card ..

2172
01:56:13,380 --> 01:56:15,040
 Idon't understand why you are still calmly sitting here.

2173
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:19,500
 Are you a real human with emotions or an indifferent person?

2174
01:56:19,500 --> 01:56:22,330
 Why you look like a nation traitor How can you be so calm after hearing such big news?

2175
01:56:22,330 --> 01:56:24,580
 Why don't you take off your clothes? Why are you not excited?

2176
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:31,460
Mr. Xiaoping studied law and can be overly calm sometimes. 

2177
01:56:33,750 --> 01:56:36,960
Okaywe have the number now.Mr.Guo,please.. ..

2178
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:42,960
 This will create history. Give it to me.

2179
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:48,830
...Twitter The problem nowis...that the connection to Twitter is lost.

2180
01:56:49,620 --> 01:56:53,080
Whose Twitter is disconnected Is it mine? TwitterTwitter

2181
01:56:53,250 --> 01:56:54,290
 It's back again.

2182
01:56:54,420 --> 01:56:56,380
There are 28,000 viewers on YouTube. YouTube28

2183
01:56:56,380 --> 01:56:58,420
YouTube OhmyGod.YouTube.

2184
01:56:58,670 --> 01:57:00,750
 Let me report to you whatwe have right now.

2185
01:57:00,750 --> 01:57:01,380
 You are flatteringme

2186
01:57:01,380 --> 01:57:06,210
 But we've lost the connection, SO you can continue your disclosures.

2187
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:08,580
YouTube Is YouTube connected right now

2188
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:13,540
TwitterTwitter lt is What about Twitter Also connected?

2189
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:19,500
TwitterTwitter5105 How many viewers on Twitter50,000? It has dropped from 100,000 to 50,000.

2190
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:22,380
5 Howdid they get rid of 50000 viewers?

2191
01:57:27,580 --> 01:57:29,880
Twitter Twitter got disconnected. Then it came back

2192
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:30,380
 Disconnected.

2193
01:57:30,460 --> 01:57:31,790
 Since when has it been disconnected?

2194
01:57:37,420 --> 01:57:39,210
 Why didn't you tell methat

2195
01:57:40,830 --> 01:57:43,000
10 How long has it been since the disconnection?

2196
01:57:44,250 --> 01:57:47,880
 Afew minutes. Because of the disclosure on Guan Jun,right

2197
01:57:51,540 --> 01:57:55,960
Look,they use such despicable means. 

2198
01:57:56,920 --> 01:58:00,880
 OkayMr.Xiaopingshallwestart now

2199
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:01,960
Yes,please continue 

2200
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:03,670
Let's move on to the next page. 

2201
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:17,880
This is about Mr. Chen Feng. Takea look at Mr.Chen Feng's chart 

2202
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:25,170
 This overlaps with Suen Yiu,Liu Chengjie,Yao Qing

2203
01:58:25,380 --> 01:58:31,040
and Guan Jun 

2204
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:34,830
4 Each of these companies worth around RMB4 trillion.

2205
01:58:34,830 --> 01:58:37,080
 They mutually overlap but yet are independent from each other.

2206
01:58:37,170 --> 01:58:41,710
lt primarily focuses on the areas of China's petroleum,finance 

2207
01:58:41,710 --> 01:58:44,290
non-performing assets and aviation 

2208
01:58:44,290 --> 01:58:51,830
and the most important sectors in China,including banking. Next one. 

2209
01:58:52,420 --> 01:58:53,380
 This is Chen Feng's.

2210
01:58:54,790 --> 01:59:02,460
only showing part of their companies  Here comes Mr. Yao Qing.We are

2211
01:59:02,620 --> 01:59:05,420
 What we are trying to prove is the interlocking relationship between Mr. Yao Qing

2212
01:59:05,460 --> 01:59:09,620
and these people. 

2213
01:59:09,620 --> 01:59:17,330
 Yao Qing,Chen Feng, Liu Chengjie, Guan Jun and Suen Yiu

2214
01:59:17,500 --> 01:59:20,290
 all hold shares and own all these assets

2215
01:59:20,290 --> 01:59:28,120
All their assets combined worth over RMB10 trillion. See that 10

2216
01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:33,580
The most significant company of Yao  Qing'sis Gi Technologies (Beijing) Co.,Ltd.

2217
01:59:33,580 --> 01:59:42,330
16 Next one,no.16.

2218
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:52,170
Ican barely look at chart no.16.These HNA and Tianjin companies 16

2219
01:59:52,380 --> 01:59:54,960
 can't get away from many massive explosions in Tianjin.

2220
01:59:55,500 --> 02:00:01,120
 Many people are concerned about those massive explosions in Tianjin. Take a look here.

2221
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:05,170
 Look at all these companies. These companies even got me all confused.

2222
02:00:05,170 --> 02:00:09,750
 Imagine how much money does this guy cost to take care all those companies?

2223
02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:13,460
 How many accounts out there?Who on earth can remember all these?

2224
02:00:14,330 --> 02:00:18,960
 If they devoted all this energy to the CPC,wouldn't our nation get stronger

2225
02:00:22,750 --> 02:00:24,540
 Okaylet'smovetothenext one

2226
02:00:27,250 --> 02:00:28,500
Remittance associates. 

2227
02:00:28,500 --> 02:00:30,380
 This is huge

2228
02:00:30,750 --> 02:00:32,120
.. This is to investigate their...

2229
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,170
 Why are you so unimpressed by all these

2230
02:00:34,290 --> 02:00:35,790
The routing of their capital 

2231
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:43,880
banks where they do money laundering  These are the account names in all the

2232
02:00:46,330 --> 02:00:49,330
Got it We don't have a Chinese version here 

2233
02:00:49,330 --> 02:00:50,120
33 33of them.

2234
02:00:52,250 --> 02:00:57,920
 Look,all these people and accounts lifted many people's veil

2235
02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:01,330
 in China's Politburo Standing Committee.

2236
02:01:02,250 --> 02:01:07,330
How many accounts do they have How much money do they cost Next page. 

2237
02:01:09,210 --> 02:01:11,540
 Twitter friends, can you handle this?

2238
02:01:11,540 --> 02:01:13,580
 Tell me if you can still handle this.

2239
02:01:13,580 --> 02:01:15,000
If you can't,let's take a break. 

2240
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:19,170
 Don't worry.lt actually takes some time for our netizens

2241
02:01:19,170 --> 02:01:20,750
 to comprehendand digest the images and documents

2242
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:24,880
 So after your presentationyou can explain to them with text.

2243
02:01:25,210 --> 02:01:29,500
 This can help Twitter friends to understand better.

2244
02:01:29,540 --> 02:01:31,000
Ithinkif possible 

2245
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:34,040
those people you mentioned,such as Liu Chengjie,Guan Jun and Suen Yiu 

2246
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:36,920
can come to our TVshowtoexplain 

2247
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:38,960
and respond to rebuttals against you 

2248
02:01:41,380 --> 02:01:46,460
18 Okay.Remittance associates.We've seen this just now.This is no.18,right

2249
02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:54,040
 Where has the money gone How much money is gone?

2250
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,540
 Thousands of billions Was it used for loans,investments

2251
02:01:58,500 --> 02:02:01,790
or transferred lt was all transferred to personal accounts. 

2252
02:02:01,790 --> 02:02:05,830
 for investments.All personal accounts. These are all personal accounts,not

2253
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:14,750
Do you understand? These are nothing  I'llshow you something more intense.

2254
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:22,420
 You don't have this there.

2255
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:31,620
 The next document doesn't exist in our production director's database

2256
02:02:31,620 --> 02:02:33,500
so let's have a look on Twitter. Twitter

2257
02:02:34,330 --> 02:02:37,040
 Look,these are all the bank accounts.

2258
02:02:38,830 --> 02:02:41,080
Bank accounts are being displayed on Twitter. Twitter

2259
02:02:51,210 --> 02:02:54,040
 This is a whole book How many accounts does he have?

2260
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:57,290
 Let me tell you how many accounts he has.

2261
02:02:57,330 --> 02:02:58,330
360 360accounts.

2262
02:03:01,290 --> 02:03:13,880
360 Group,Chen Feng and Wang Jian 360 accounts. They are related to HNA

2263
02:03:15,620 --> 02:03:21,000
 Look,these are all the inward and outward transfers

2264
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,880
of all these accounts 

2265
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:28,210
We investigated all of them. There are many loans,project acquisitions and airplane purchases 

2266
02:03:28,290 --> 02:03:32,960
the funds would be transferred out immediately 50% After funds were transferred into them,50%of

2267
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:34,250
 to dozens of people's accounts.

2268
02:03:34,330 --> 02:03:38,120
lt indicates half of the money intended for project  investments has turned into personal assets.

2269
02:03:38,170 --> 02:03:40,790
100% Some of the loans were 100% transferred to individuals.

2270
02:03:41,790 --> 02:03:45,540
300150 There were over 300 accounts but there are only 150 left now

2271
02:03:47,330 --> 02:03:53,330
Todaylhave only disclosed the information regarding Chen Feng, Wang Jian,Guan Jun 

2272
02:03:53,380 --> 02:03:57,830
Suen Yiu, Liu Chengjie and Yao Qing 

2273
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:03,380
Ididn't disclose the information about Ms Yao Mingshan and Ms. Yao Mingduan 

2274
02:04:03,540 --> 02:04:06,330
and Yao Qing's account. Do you knowwhy 

2275
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,290
The new senior leader called me yesterday 

2276
02:04:09,420 --> 02:04:13,000
whichIwas going to disclose today 99% Asa result ltook out 99%of the materials

2277
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:17,210
Itis because if I disclosed all of them  Chinese folks would go out on the streets.

2278
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:20,540
Afterlsaw the accounts, 

2279
02:04:20,620 --> 02:04:23,290
to be honest,Icried immediately 

2280
02:04:23,330 --> 02:04:25,880
Icouldn't accept the truth 

2281
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:28,250
Idon't have an indifferent heart like Mr. Chen Xiaoping 

2282
02:04:28,330 --> 02:04:33,120
 How didso much money turn into these people's private assets

2283
02:04:35,290 --> 02:04:38,960
How Think about it.These are all accounts. 

2284
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,210
 To be honest,lam shaking over these.

2285
02:04:41,210 --> 02:04:44,920
Look at all these money 

2286
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:49,420
 These accounts and money. How did the money go into your hands?

2287
02:04:54,170 --> 02:04:56,540
 Takea look.Mr.Chen,Takealook.4

2288
02:04:56,540 --> 02:04:57,460
 This is Wang Jian's.

2289
02:04:57,460 --> 02:04:59,040
 Wang Jian's. This is Chen Feng's

2290
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:02,580
Look at these over 300 accounts. Every single one of them is here 300

2291
02:05:04,460 --> 02:05:08,830
And Mr. Chen Feng, HNA Group said they would donate the shares. 

2292
02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:10,800
who wants your shares? Why don't you donate all these money?

2293
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:13,960
 Don't donate shares.Don't fool Chinese folks

2294
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:18,040
 you please donate your cash instead? and treat them like pigs and dogs.Would

2295
02:05:18,830 --> 02:05:21,120
 Why donit you donate your airplane

2296
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:24,460
 What can folks do with your shareholdings You are always in debt.

2297
02:05:24,460 --> 02:05:28,500
The 2 trillion you borrowed from Chinese folks You want those charities to pay your debts for you 

2298
02:05:28,580 --> 02:05:30,790
 and the over 10 trillion RMB in your hands,

2299
02:05:30,790 --> 02:05:32,120
can you donate it all 

2300
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:37,170
 They opened a trial into me in Dalian because

2301
02:05:37,250 --> 02:05:40,620
lborrowed RMB3.2 billion but l repaid RMB4.3 billion 3243

2302
02:05:40,830 --> 02:05:43,380
What about youThis is fraud. 

2303
02:05:43,380 --> 02:05:45,540
 You directly transferred loans to your personal accounts.

2304
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,880
 Why are you still pretending here? Why are you still lying

2305
02:05:56,670 --> 02:06:01,670
Look at these banks that involved in money-laundering 

2306
02:06:01,750 --> 02:06:06,670
 the Bank of China alone. Bank of China Tens of billions were transferred out of

2307
02:06:06,670 --> 02:06:10,540
 Bank of BeijingMinsheng Bank and China Merchants Bank.

2308
02:06:10,580 --> 02:06:14,880
 these are fraudulent banks and criminal banks.

2309
02:06:22,500 --> 02:06:26,710
 I'm not allowed to show any of these documents today

2310
02:06:28,250 --> 02:06:29,790
 Not allowed.

2311
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:35,040
I'm dancing with fetters and handcuffs 

2312
02:06:35,170 --> 02:06:39,330
l believe in what this new senior leader has told me.So today l.. 

2313
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:44,960
 I don't know. To be honest,Mr. Chen,I'm very excited now.

2314
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:45,620
Ireally am.. 

2315
02:06:45,620 --> 02:06:47,120
 lt is because

2316
02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:49,620
Ican't control my emotions when l saw these information 

2317
02:06:49,620 --> 02:06:52,120
 Because part of these information

2318
02:06:52,330 --> 02:06:54,080
had no linkage 

2319
02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:57,210
 Solentrusted four institutions that have legal authority

2320
02:06:57,290 --> 02:06:59,580
 and are certified with government approval.

2321
02:06:59,670 --> 02:07:01,620
 And then investigated and verified them.

2322
02:07:01,710 --> 02:07:06,420
-was shocked after the verification. This is unbelievable. 

2323
02:07:06,420 --> 02:07:08,620
So through your investigation 

2324
02:07:08,620 --> 02:07:10,750
 it has been shown that these people's businesses have formed a network.

2325
02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:13,880
The total value almost reached 2 billion as you mentioned 20

2326
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:19,330
2020 20trillion. Thisis 20 trillion of assets and cash

2327
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:23,750
218 If I could have 2 trillion somedayI would jump off this 18th floor.

2328
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:25,580
20 lt's 20 trillion now.

2329
02:07:25,670 --> 02:07:27,170
 But this is related to only one family

2330
02:07:27,170 --> 02:07:28,830
This is just about one family 

2331
02:07:28,830 --> 02:07:34,420
I'm too afraid to continue the reading of the rest of that 91 books 91

2332
02:07:34,420 --> 02:07:36,080
 No one knows this

2333
02:07:36,170 --> 02:07:40,880
 Do you know that Mr.Yao Qing controls Bankof Kunlun?

2334
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:42,580
There is another oil company which  specifically does business with Iran.

2335
02:07:42,580 --> 02:07:44,880
 There is another oil company which specifically does business with Iran.

2336
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:50,920
 lt is called Kunpeng Petroleum a few years ago.

2337
02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:56,120
 This was the largest company that focused on Iran.

2338
02:07:56,210 --> 02:07:58,250
Can you imagine it was actually controlled by Mr. Yao Qing 

2339
02:07:58,540 --> 02:08:00,210
 Do you know how much cash alone we are talking about

2340
02:08:00,210 --> 02:08:04,380
16001600 US$160 billion in cash.

2341
02:08:04,380 --> 02:08:07,540
 to be controlled by the entire country The money from oil business that is supposed

2342
02:08:07,540 --> 02:08:10,500
 was transferred to one person.

2343
02:08:10,540 --> 02:08:12,880
This is the so-called national policy 

2344
02:08:14,460 --> 02:08:18,290
 Think of the name that he used.lt was in the name of state ownership

2345
02:08:18,330 --> 02:08:22,000
 turned ordinary people's assets to his own. He turned state owned assets to his own.He

2346
02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:29,040
 He turned the so-called national energy to his own.

2347
02:08:30,460 --> 02:08:35,380
This is completely beyond your imagination. 

2348
02:08:35,850 --> 02:08:40,050
This is not a nation traitor. This is a god that sells his country.

2349
02:08:44,290 --> 02:08:46,210
Do you understand? This is a god that sells his country 

2350
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:52,960
 According to what you have,these are all the assets they own

2351
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:58,420
 There are so much more. The few properties that l disclosed arejust a tiny part of his assets.

2352
02:08:58,580 --> 02:09:00,750
This is just the beginning. 

2353
02:09:00,830 --> 02:09:04,210
20 So in your words,itis over RMB20 trillion

2354
02:09:04,210 --> 02:09:08,750
Those few houses worth nothing here. Nothing 

2355
02:09:09,580 --> 02:09:12,420
Idid business with some of these companies before 

2356
02:09:12,460 --> 02:09:14,880
 You knowl can't believe it.

2357
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:19,080
Those funds from Tianjin Yanshan Equity Investment, 

2358
02:09:19,290 --> 02:09:23,420
the HNA Group and Changcheng 

2359
02:09:23,620 --> 02:09:25,460
 and those companies in Suzhou industrial zone,

2360
02:09:25,670 --> 02:09:28,710
we are not joking here. These are all state owned enterprises ,

2361
02:09:29,250 --> 02:09:33,880
: There are only two non-performing assets companies in this country Changcheng and JIC

2362
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:37,380
 Nowit is like belong to your family. The country belongs to them.

2363
02:09:37,380 --> 02:09:38,670
 We are talking only one member of the Standing Committee.

2364
02:09:38,670 --> 02:09:42,830
 Chinese folks are treated worse than animals So what about the rest of the members?

2365
02:09:44,170 --> 02:09:49,080
before they start the slaughtering work.  In the US,butchers play the pigs some music

2366
02:09:49,290 --> 02:09:54,380
 But these people just slaughter you. This is not joking

2367
02:09:58,210 --> 02:10:03,920
Bank of Kunlun and Kunlun Petrochemicals are huge oil companies in the world 

2368
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:07,710
All of the money and oil from Iran go to these  people. Companies under the US sanctions

2369
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:10,540
 have become private companies.lt really freaks meout.

2370
02:10:10,540 --> 02:10:12,790
 When I look at those bank accounts,

2371
02:10:12,790 --> 02:10:16,580
can you imagine that in the global trends of counter-terrorism 

2372
02:10:16,750 --> 02:10:19,040
itisas difficult as to climb up to the sky for me to even open one bank account 

2373
02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:23,120
But they own hundreds of bank accounts transferring  hundreds of billions of USD among these accounts

2374
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:24,670
and topersonal accounts 

2375
02:10:24,670 --> 02:10:27,830
 How powerful and wealthy they are.

2376
02:10:27,830 --> 02:10:30,710
This can only be achieved in the exchange of the interests of a whole country 

2377
02:10:30,710 --> 02:10:32,290
 ljust tookalook of Wang Jian's account

2378
02:10:32,290 --> 02:10:35,210
20 his money has been transferring among 20 countries.

2379
02:10:35,290 --> 02:10:37,500
2070 Not just 20,it is more than 70 countries

2380
02:10:37,710 --> 02:10:39,080
 There are a lot of countries involved

2381
02:10:39,250 --> 02:10:42,120
even Somalia 

2382
02:10:42,540 --> 02:10:44,500
 You know what the Americans have told me after knowing this

2383
02:10:44,540 --> 02:10:49,330
 The leader of this investigation company

2384
02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:55,420
he came to me and said he was afraid. 

2385
02:10:55,580 --> 02:10:59,500
He has never seen a person having so much money and accounts 

2386
02:10:59,500 --> 02:11:01,420
 Heis amazed by his power.

2387
02:11:03,620 --> 02:11:08,830
lknow about himwhich is less than 1%. Todaylam only exposing something tha 1%

2388
02:11:10,290 --> 02:11:13,960
Let's go back to the information disclosed by me before June and then look at these. 6

2389
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:17,540
 Please speak up if you think l have no disclosure or evidence

2390
02:11:18,580 --> 02:11:21,420
 Havelever disclose any false dopes

2391
02:11:21,420 --> 02:11:24,000
If any of you think that my revelations are false, speak up 

2392
02:11:26,330 --> 02:11:30,790
And so far,I have just exposed only a smallpart of the information ·

2393
02:11:30,830 --> 02:11:33,290
lam going to reserve the information,lam  not going to embarrass the new senior leader

2394
02:11:33,460 --> 02:11:35,830
 andIwill not mention the new senior leader's name either.

2395
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:39,380
 But for all the netizens,they need some time to digest the data that you just disclosed.

2396
02:11:39,460 --> 02:11:43,750
Information about Wan Qishan's wife 

2397
02:11:43,830 --> 02:11:47,960
 and her US citizenship are easy to understand.

2398
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:50,290
business network and transfer of capita  However,information regarding their

2399
02:11:50,330 --> 02:11:53,750
require experts to analyze. Nowl.. 

2400
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:57,830
nowis to understand that Guan Jun, Liu Chengjie But that is not today's focus What's important 

2401
02:11:57,830 --> 02:12:01,670
 and Suen Yiu are one family, they share the same father and mother.

2402
02:12:01,710 --> 02:12:02,670
Yes,thesepeople.. 

2403
02:12:02,750 --> 02:12:06,290
 before we talk about Yao Ming Shan. This is the right question you should ask

2404
02:12:06,500 --> 02:12:10,500
20 You still don't get it.These people control 20 trillion RMB

2405
02:12:10,580 --> 02:12:12,040
 You have just mentioned a key point

2406
02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:15,040
but you just disciosed these three people withou 3

2407
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:16,750
 mentioning their parents

2408
02:12:17,460 --> 02:12:21,380
 Do you intend to talk about them later or this is justa hint

2409
02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:25,710
 Well,we have to see how things go.

2410
02:12:25,710 --> 02:12:29,710
DNA We'llsee. And you have the DNA evidence.

2411
02:12:29,875 --> 02:12:31,375
I wouldn't have talked about them if I don't have the DNA evidence.

2412
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:37,120
 And later,all the Twitter friends will be able to see the pictures.

2413
02:12:37,330 --> 02:12:40,500
We will post those pictures on Twitter later. So everyone can... Twitter..

2414
02:12:40,500 --> 02:12:42,920
Post these evidence on Twitter laterallof them 

2415
02:12:48,290 --> 02:12:52,460
Istill have another month to go. On July 17.. 717

2416
02:12:52,620 --> 02:12:58,000
717 Before this date,if we sort everything out

2417
02:12:58,790 --> 02:13:00,670
lwill hand all the evidence to related departments 

2418
02:13:00,670 --> 02:13:03,500
Idon't want to disclose no more. This is going to endanger China. 

2419
02:13:03,500 --> 02:13:05,000
 Chinese folks will not be able to bear it

2420
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:10,540
 And there is another family which is even morepowerfulapowerful senior official.

2421
02:13:10,710 --> 02:13:14,210
Ihave read information about their family  bank information and the assets theyown.

2422
02:13:14,790 --> 02:13:16,920
 Honestlyhave to say

2423
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:22,330
 This is worse than any TV show

2424
02:13:22,330 --> 02:13:24,830
You can never imagine such a national officia 

2425
02:13:24,830 --> 02:13:26,670
 could have owned such enormous amount of money.

2426
02:13:26,670 --> 02:13:27,880
20 More than 20 trillion RMB?

2427
02:13:30,750 --> 02:13:35,120
 Basically,the whole country belongs to him. This country is over.

2428
02:13:35,120 --> 02:13:36,790
 Frankly speaking,this will cause negative consequences.Why

2429
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:38,960
When you print the dollar bills,ordinary  people would go to the bank toget the money

2430
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:40,580
 but they won't be able to get any

2431
02:13:41,790 --> 02:13:44,830
He will think that the stocks belong to him  and sell them,but the stock cannotbesold.

2432
02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:50,920
 Because of this,the money supply willbe endangered

2433
02:13:51,500 --> 02:13:55,210
M2M2M1 When you print M2,M1

2434
02:13:55,210 --> 02:13:58,120
You are printing dollar bills,and you think the moneyis there M2

2435
02:13:58,120 --> 02:14:00,290
 But once you buy thingsyou won't beable todo that.

2436
02:14:00,460 --> 02:14:02,790
 And you try to get money from the bankyou get fake bank notes.

2437
02:14:03,210 --> 02:14:07,710
 When you get sick,no one will pay you the money to see a doctor. This is the negative consequence.

2438
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:11,960
 himself,protect his moneyandseek revenge. People said that Guo Wenguiis just trying to protect

2439
02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:13,500
Itis more than that 

2440
02:14:14,420 --> 02:14:17,330
They treat me like a foollike apig 

2441
02:14:17,420 --> 02:14:21,460
ltis like kidnapping,threatening,and lying tome. 

2442
02:14:21,620 --> 02:14:23,710
lwill make those people who have cheated me 

2443
02:14:23,710 --> 02:14:26,420
 and kidnapped me pay for that.

2444
02:14:26,540 --> 02:14:28,290
 See if you can still threaten me.

2445
02:14:29,170 --> 02:14:32,170
 lwill show you whether your threat is effective or not.

2446
02:14:32,330 --> 02:14:34,330
Let's see if you can still control me. 

2447
02:14:34,540 --> 02:14:40,750
 assassinate me,don't even think about it You liedyou threatened ee i o

2448
02:14:42,210 --> 02:14:47,000
 How many people in the world know the information that lhave?

2449
02:14:47,460 --> 02:14:49,790
 Canlstore all the information in my home safely?

2450
02:14:52,420 --> 02:14:55,170
 All the people who leaked information to me are here

2451
02:14:55,170 --> 02:14:56,620
 can you kill themall

2452
02:14:57,250 --> 02:14:59,250
 Can you killallmy lawyers

2453
02:14:59,250 --> 02:15:01,540
DavidBoies Can you kill David Boies aswell

2454
02:15:01,540 --> 02:15:04,710
DavidBoies David Boies interrogated Bill Gates fora week

2455
02:15:06,580 --> 02:15:08,040
 can you kill all these lawyers?

2456
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:14,750
If anything happens to me,he will help me.ltis notthat simple. 

2457
02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:17,420
 Those media pundits always said

2458
02:15:17,420 --> 02:15:22,750
they doubt thisand that.They claimed my evidence is suspicious. 

2459
02:15:22,830 --> 02:15:26,380
Mr.Zhang Lifan and Mr. Hu Pingyou  can slap yourselves in the mouth.

2460
02:15:27,460 --> 02:15:30,210
 See,againyou mentioned these two people.

2461
02:15:30,620 --> 02:15:31,670
 You always get upset when Italk about them

2462
02:15:31,670 --> 02:15:32,250
 Yes.

2463
02:15:32,250 --> 02:15:33,540
 Why are you upset aboutthat

2464
02:15:33,540 --> 02:15:34,830
 Try not to get sidetracked

2465
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:36,880
lt was just my emotion talking 

2466
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:39,540
those verification of all the documents?  So how long did it take for you to do

2467
02:15:41,080 --> 02:15:44,290
Ispent about 70 million USD so far. 

2468
02:15:44,290 --> 02:15:44,830
 How abouttime?

2469
02:15:44,830 --> 02:15:47,080
6 Ispent around 6 years

2470
02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:47,750
6 6 years of searching

2471
02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:51,170
.. But l have to tell you something

2472
02:15:51,170 --> 02:15:55,750
 Can you believe all the information about Guan Jun and Liu Chengjie are provided by Fu Zhenhua

2473
02:15:56,210 --> 02:15:58,250
Idare youMr.Fu Zhenhua. 

2474
02:15:58,460 --> 02:16:00,790
Are you brave enough to say in front of the Central Leaders 

2475
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:03,380
 about Liu Chengjie and Guan Jun that you didn't give me the information

2476
02:16:04,790 --> 02:16:08,500
If you dare to say you didn't 

2477
02:16:08,500 --> 02:16:14,710
lam willing to listen to your recordings and videos in front of the Central Leaders 

2478
02:16:16,460 --> 02:16:21,000
know everyone's information in Beijing  Fu Zhenhua gave me information.l

2479
02:16:21,250 --> 02:16:24,750
 asked himWhy did you tell Guo Wengui You know Zhu ShanluA senior official

2480
02:16:24,750 --> 02:16:27,170
× that all the people engaged in the June Fourth Incident were idiots?"

2481
02:16:27,330 --> 02:16:30,290
 Iheard that Zhu Shanlu got all upset and was crying

2482
02:16:30,290 --> 02:16:33,170
Why on earth wouldlsay any of those  words Guo Wenguiis talking nonsense?

2483
02:16:33,170 --> 02:16:34,750
 Why would you listen to him."

2484
02:16:35,210 --> 02:16:38,250
 Zhu Shanlu why would l spread rumors about youThereis noneed at all

2485
02:16:38,330 --> 02:16:42,000
the senior officials,lt is impossible. But on the other hand,Fu Zhenhua told 

2486
02:16:42,080 --> 02:16:44,790
talked to him before.Never!lswear!' Idon't know him at all.I have never ever 

2487
02:16:44,790 --> 02:16:49,290
Mr.Fu Zhenhuayour speech was stunning 

2488
02:16:49,380 --> 02:16:54,880
 But the truth is,as long as thenew senior official sends someone

2489
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:58,830
to watch the recordings and videos of me and your brother 

2490
02:16:58,830 --> 02:17:03,420
they would know clearly who gave me the information  about Liu Chengjie and Guan Jun.lt was you

2491
02:17:03,420 --> 02:17:08,960
 Fu Zhenhua. Only Fu Zhenhua himself knows what he has given me.

2492
02:17:08,960 --> 02:17:11,880
Let me tell you,every member of the standing committee 

2493
02:17:11,960 --> 02:17:17,420
30 You can keep on watching for 30 days more. Guo Wengui was tricked by you guys for over half a year.

2494
02:17:17,500 --> 02:17:21,580
direction as you guys. And nothing happens  You have been asking me to go the same

2495
02:17:21,620 --> 02:17:24,710
Ilove the country and the partyright You make me promise every day that 

2496
02:17:24,880 --> 02:17:28,330
 Now my assets are frozen and put under investigationmy employees couldn't go home.

2497
02:17:28,750 --> 02:17:30,950
You let daughter and wife came back, bu they are supposed to stay overseas. 

2498
02:17:31,670 --> 02:17:33,710
Why you think you can stop me from  speaking up You tried to kidnap me

2499
02:17:33,880 --> 02:17:35,540
 do you dare to kidnap the peopie from HNA Group

2500
02:17:35,540 --> 02:17:38,380
 You never investigate them but the case of Guo Wengui

2501
02:17:38,500 --> 02:17:41,880
 wantto embarrass the new senior official. Don't get me started on the court case,I dont

2502
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:45,540
 IfI say something about your so-called trial

2503
02:17:45,710 --> 02:17:49,000
 You don't have any basic foundation.I will leave it now.

2504
02:17:49,380 --> 02:17:53,880
 information about the Standing Committee, But Fu Zhenhua gave me some

2505
02:17:53,880 --> 02:17:57,580
 they are more shocking than today's information.

2506
02:18:01,540 --> 02:18:05,210
he has got tons of information on his hands. Xiong Guanghai as the chief information official 

2507
02:18:05,210 --> 02:18:07,210
 Do you know about his information

2508
02:18:07,210 --> 02:18:10,040
 overseas.Are you aware of that? Xiong Guangkai released a lot of them

2509
02:18:11,250 --> 02:18:13,710
Whose information did he release Do you have any ideas 

2510
02:18:14,880 --> 02:18:18,330
 died while the other is still kept in the prison Guo Boxiong and Xu Caihou one of them

2511
02:18:18,460 --> 02:18:21,420
Idare say they haven't even get a tiny bit of his information 

2512
02:18:21,420 --> 02:18:22,040
 Whocan tell

2513
02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:26,000
 information But where are they In the US. Xiong Guankai knows about the

2514
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:29,460
So this is after you released the sources of news.. ..

2515
02:18:29,500 --> 02:18:34,080
 should hold a meeting to investigate The old and new Standing Committees

2516
02:18:34,120 --> 02:18:36,170
 on the 'Guo Wengui's Phenomenon'

2517
02:18:37,330 --> 02:18:40,880
To see if it is good or bad.I hope that my concerns 

2518
02:18:41,125 --> 02:18:42,625
can become country's concern as said by the new official.

2519
02:18:43,380 --> 02:18:46,750
lhope to the country can be ruled by lawand to encourage anti-corruption. 

2520
02:18:46,830 --> 02:18:47,960
 The Central Commission for Discipline Inspection of the CPC

2521
02:18:47,960 --> 02:18:49,500
have been carrying out anti-corruption regime  and the commission of discipline inspection

2522
02:18:49,500 --> 02:18:51,460
 but they didn't go against this.ls this how you callanti-corruption"

2523
02:18:52,710 --> 02:18:57,000
 If you don't want me to reveal the information,then you cantake

2524
02:18:57,080 --> 02:19:00,500
 show them to the Standing Committee. all the documents back to China and

2525
02:19:00,580 --> 02:19:02,040
 Tellthemthetruth.

2526
02:19:02,250 --> 02:19:04,620
If it is real,then you should return money to ordinary people 

2527
02:19:04,830 --> 02:19:07,330
 If itis fake,then you can shoot and kill me.

2528
02:19:08,380 --> 02:19:11,000
 Don't let the whole thing become a national disaster.

2529
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:14,620
 acatastrophe.Ordinary people cannot bear it. Once those information are out,it would only be

2530
02:19:14,620 --> 02:19:18,040
There will bea hundred of millions  of people going on stress to protest.

2531
02:19:18,460 --> 02:19:22,620
Ordinary people are not silly 

2532
02:19:22,620 --> 02:19:24,920
they will go on the streets and protest one day. This day will come 

2533
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:29,040
 Before this,do you think Guo Wengui still cares about life and death?

2534
02:19:29,250 --> 02:19:32,080
 Can you still use my assets and the Founder Group to threaten me

2535
02:19:32,710 --> 02:19:35,250
You threatened me with my employees 

2536
02:19:35,420 --> 02:19:37,620
you kidnapped me with my kindness and morality. 

2537
02:19:37,790 --> 02:19:40,210
 Call you call yourself an organization,a country

2538
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,830
You let me go the same way as you doyou let me love your country. 

2539
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:47,380
What llove is China,not your country. 

2540
02:19:47,380 --> 02:19:49,750
I don't love the country that youstole 

2541
02:19:49,790 --> 02:19:53,710
I love Chinese people,not you guys,not your gang. 

2542
02:19:54,170 --> 02:19:56,750
What I want is democracy and law. 

2543
02:19:56,960 --> 02:20:01,040
 Iwant safety for ordinary people instead of my personal interests.

2544
02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:05,790
 Don't try to attack Guo Wengui you national traitors.

2545
02:20:06,330 --> 02:20:08,620
We will see. You keep on playing me by 

2546
02:20:10,580 --> 02:20:17,120
restricting me in London and issuing red notice  for me and sentencing my employees to prison.

2547
02:20:17,120 --> 02:20:20,250
 Do you think this can weaken me Let's see if any of your tricks works

2548
02:20:20,750 --> 02:20:22,210
 lwill give you some more time.

2549
02:20:22,290 --> 02:20:24,330
 If you keep doing what you have been doing,let's see whose information will be revealed next time.

2550
02:20:24,380 --> 02:20:30,000
 Twitter friends,remember,if what I reveal next timeis not ten times more astonishing than this,

2551
02:20:30,080 --> 02:20:36,920
 twitter friends, you should ignore me forever. You too,Mr. He Ping

2552
02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:39,920
If I don't reveal 10 times more astonishing information 10 next time,then just don't interview me anymore.

2553
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:41,120
Mr.He Pinis not here today 

2554
02:20:41,250 --> 02:20:46,080
 Mr. Xiao Pin. Perhaps Mr.He Ping is having a meeting with Hu Ping.

2555
02:20:47,170 --> 02:20:48,830
This is Mr.Xiao Ping 

2556
02:20:50,210 --> 02:20:52,500
lam agitated. Shouldn't lbe agitated? 

2557
02:20:52,500 --> 02:20:53,330
Yes,you should. 

2558
02:20:53,420 --> 02:20:55,080
 Do lhave reasons to be agitated?

2559
02:20:55,170 --> 02:20:56,920
 Of course, you can be agitated.

2560
02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:59,040
 Then why are you calm You are numb

2561
02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:00,830
lam the host.Ineed to host the interview 

2562
02:21:00,830 --> 02:21:03,000
 You say you will help the country find its righteousness

2563
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:04,710
 and law,why don't you explain it now

2564
02:21:04,710 --> 02:21:09,210
Let me repeat again, so you asked ordinary people to care for dignity 

2565
02:21:09,210 --> 02:21:10,620
which touched mea lot 

2566
02:21:10,620 --> 02:21:16,210
Icould not stay neutral asa host 

2567
02:21:16,210 --> 02:21:18,500
Ihave to say that l was touched by Mr. Guo Wengui 

2568
02:21:18,580 --> 02:21:22,830
 But for most of the time,I have to maintain objective.

2569
02:21:22,880 --> 02:21:26,960
Ordinary people need to have their dignity  You have to remember your status as neutral.

2570
02:21:26,960 --> 02:21:29,790
as wellas safety 

2571
02:21:29,960 --> 02:21:32,580
 Andthey need to knowthetruth

2572
02:21:32,580 --> 02:21:33,540
. Yes,that's true.l..

2573
02:21:33,540 --> 02:21:36,790
you afraid of letting ordinary people know So why there is Internet censorshipAre 

2574
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:37,960
that you stole their money 

2575
02:21:38,580 --> 02:21:42,080
and you assaulted their grandmas 

2576
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:44,710
 mothers,and daughters?

2577
02:21:45,880 --> 02:21:48,960
government officials are all  naked officials  Are you afraid of letting them know the senior

2578
02:21:48,960 --> 02:21:50,170
 that their family all move to overseas?

2579
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:54,330
In China,there are earthquakes, ordinary people  eat chemical food,while you won't touch on it.

2580
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:59,330
 You should say something,this endangers our dignity. We need to live to have our own dignity.

2581
02:21:59,330 --> 02:22:03,250
The right to live for ordinary people is deeply endangered now 

2582
02:22:03,250 --> 02:22:07,580
their basic right is in deep water. Ordinary  people should have basic human rights.

2583
02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:11,080
 Then we talk about their safety and then dignity

2584
02:22:11,080 --> 02:22:12,750
Without being alive,how can we discuss about dignity 

2585
02:22:12,960 --> 02:22:17,250
 So now their lives are threatened,

2586
02:22:17,290 --> 02:22:20,120
 and you are still talking conceptual things here with them. lt is not practical.

2587
02:22:20,120 --> 02:22:23,920
 ls it going to work Once you are deadyou don't need your aspirations and your dignity

2588
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:25,960
 Ourlifeisthreatened.

2589
02:22:25,960 --> 02:22:28,330
All Chinese ordinary people's life is threatened. 

2590
02:22:28,330 --> 02:22:32,460
issued by the Chinese Nationalist Party  It is now like the last period of Jin Yuan Coupon

2591
02:22:32,460 --> 02:22:34,460
Tunisia had been ruling by the police force. 

2592
02:22:34,460 --> 02:22:38,710
 Tunisia is waiting a Bouazizi

2593
02:22:39,250 --> 02:22:40,580
 No matter how your economy grows

2594
02:22:40,580 --> 02:22:44,290
 if it isn't ruled by lawthe ordinary people would notfeel safe.

2595
02:22:44,500 --> 02:22:46,000
You had never ruled by the law and suddenly you followed the law.

2596
02:22:47,210 --> 02:22:48,540
 You take him and force him to commit suicide.

2597
02:22:48,540 --> 02:22:51,580
 The rule of law broke down Bouazizi and Tunisia

2598
02:22:52,290 --> 02:22:53,330
 You mentioned before.

2599
02:22:53,620 --> 02:22:57,380
So today is the best example 

2600
02:22:58,080 --> 02:22:59,920
Idon't want to embarrass the new senior leader 

2601
02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:03,380
Iprepared a3-hour-revelation for today 

2602
02:23:03,540 --> 02:23:05,330
-wanted to get started from the very beginning 

2603
02:23:05,330 --> 02:23:07,500
 to show you how many mistresses our government officials have.

2604
02:23:08,500 --> 02:23:10,880
 How many women in the world went through abortion for them

2605
02:23:11,080 --> 02:23:13,420
 To show you how they assaulted a whole family

2606
02:23:13,580 --> 02:23:17,040
 and how many watches they have in their safe overseas

2607
02:23:17,380 --> 02:23:20,330
 and what they did on their private planes.

2608
02:23:20,330 --> 02:23:24,420
 And those old officials,

2609
02:23:24,500 --> 02:23:25,620
 how they mess around.

2610
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:31,040
They got all these women pregnant. Butl will leave these out today. 

2611
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:35,170
safe.Ihaven't mentioned them at all.  And the money they have in their

2612
02:23:35,170 --> 02:23:41,290
Idon't want to embarrass the new senior official.lam only disclosing one-thousandth of the information that l have today 

2613
02:23:41,620 --> 02:23:45,750
But Guo Wengui is not stupid.I won't let you lie tomeagain 

2614
02:23:45,790 --> 02:23:50,000
 Iwon't wait for you to kill me.ltis Impossible.

2615
02:23:51,670 --> 02:23:56,080
 Show your swords. Your shiny swords.

2616
02:23:58,710 --> 02:24:04,500
want to be a defender of human right  Iwant to die for the country now.lf you

2617
02:24:04,500 --> 02:24:05,790
 youneed tobe more emotional.

2618
02:24:05,830 --> 02:24:09,290
 You can kill me,I have no regrets in my life if you do kill me.

2619
02:24:09,960 --> 02:24:12,880
If my death can lead toa revolution in China 

2620
02:24:13,710 --> 02:24:18,080
 iflcan get the ordinary people to fight for their own safety then lam willing to bet my life.

2621
02:24:19,750 --> 02:24:23,710
We,Chinese ordinary people,can't be treated as animals 

2622
02:24:25,330 --> 02:24:28,880
 You can kill meyou caneat me,

2623
02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:35,290
 but you cant despise me. You tried to wreck the third episode of Ming Jing

2624
02:24:35,290 --> 02:24:37,580
 but we managed to live stream it at last

2625
02:24:39,790 --> 02:24:42,580
We made a miracle today 

2626
02:24:55,960 --> 02:25:03,540
Good news. News of victory. The trial of Caixin's case is today. 

2627
02:25:03,540 --> 02:25:04,460
.. Thisis your...

2628
02:25:04,540 --> 02:25:10,120
930 The trial started at 9:30am. Whois involvedls Pan Shiyi involved too

2629
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:20,620
Hu Shuli from Caixinyou lost.When  WeiShi from Boxun News is arrested

2630
02:25:20,620 --> 02:25:22,040
l will specially make a show for it 

2631
02:25:22,170 --> 02:25:27,620
l will do another episode with Mr.Chen Xiaoping.I willtalkabout yourfear 

2632
02:25:27,710 --> 02:25:30,670
Iwill reveal how Wei Shi drew you people in 

2633
02:25:30,750 --> 02:25:34,290
 How many mobiles dose Wei Shi have?

2634
02:25:34,290 --> 02:25:38,960
7600 How many mobile numbers were sent to China State Security Bureau 76 million.

2635
02:25:41,670 --> 02:25:46,710
 all the villains Answers will be given to you. You will see, Wenguiis a mirror which shows

2636
02:25:46,790 --> 02:25:50,620
 YesterdayIsee that Wei Shi has tens of millions of USD.

2637
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:53,290
 Wei Shi borrowed money to carry out dirty business like buying houses.

2638
02:25:53,460 --> 02:25:57,710
Wei Shiand Hu Shuli are the guns of national traitors. 

2639
02:25:59,040 --> 02:26:00,170
 We should not underestimate them,noweshouldn't.

2640
02:26:00,170 --> 02:26:02,920
We should not underestimate them,no,we shouldn't. 

2641
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:07,830
 Mr. He Ping is too nice,he wouldn't let me fight with WeiShi.

2642
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:11,620
 But he doesn't know

2643
02:26:11,710 --> 02:26:15,540
Wengui was born a warrior.Iwas born to fight with the bad guys 

2644
02:26:15,540 --> 02:26:19,250
Heisa tool of the villains andIneed to destroy him. 

2645
02:26:19,250 --> 02:26:20,540
 But Mr.HePiniskind

2646
02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:23,750
 Being kindness is not going to help him and me

2647
02:26:24,025 --> 02:26:26,475
but it allows a chance for the gang fo Boxun to make fortune.

2648
02:26:26,710 --> 02:26:30,120
 You gave way to them,did they win?

2649
02:26:30,250 --> 02:26:32,380
Let's look at the lawyer Kevin Tung 

2650
02:26:32,380 --> 02:26:36,290
 There were two guys who were supposed to be against Guo Wengui.

2651
02:26:36,290 --> 02:26:38,080
-was called Guo Long 

2652
02:26:38,120 --> 02:26:43,750
dragon. And someone called Qu Long My Panggu building is designed as 

2653
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:45,500
15 was sentenced to 15 years of imprisonment.

2654
02:26:45,500 --> 02:26:50,330
Qu Long said he won since heis called Qu Long 

2655
02:26:50,420 --> 02:26:53,620
He said he is born to fight with Guo Wengui then he was sentenced to 15 years of imprisonment. 15

2656
02:26:53,710 --> 02:26:55,920
10 And they sentenced 10 more years of imprisonment again this time.

2657
02:26:55,920 --> 02:27:00,750
is someone called Xing Kewen in Guangdong  You know the name of the second person There

2658
02:27:01,290 --> 02:27:02,960
 the one from Central Commission for Discipline Inspection of the CPC.

2659
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:06,830
 Xing Kewen went against Guo Wengui and you know what happened to him

2660
02:27:06,880 --> 02:27:09,210
 When he tried to arrest me back then

2661
02:27:09,210 --> 02:27:13,830
1816 lwas investigated for 18 days. And on the 16th dayhedied on the North Third Ring Road.

2662
02:27:13,880 --> 02:27:16,120
 Hediedbutnot me.

2663
02:27:16,170 --> 02:27:20,580
be concern about your own safety first  Ihope that Mr. Tung to be safe, you should

2664
02:27:20,580 --> 02:27:23,500
 Do you understand this case? This case will be an unalloyed success.

2665
02:27:23,500 --> 02:27:26,120
 And now the case of Mr. Tung

2666
02:27:26,120 --> 02:27:30,920
has drawn the attention of the US Department of Justice.I hold accountable to everything whatlsaid. 

2667
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:34,830
lt arouses their attention because they knew it is political threats and intimidation 

2668
02:27:34,830 --> 02:27:37,620
they want to find out the dirty hands behind it. 

2669
02:27:37,710 --> 02:27:39,960
 We will wait and see. You wont be able to get away from this now

2670
02:27:40,120 --> 02:27:43,750
· Every move those thieves, rogues and terrorists make

2671
02:27:43,750 --> 02:27:46,170
 give us chance to strike back.

2672
02:27:46,380 --> 02:27:48,120
 We can use their fear as weapons.

2673
02:27:48,330 --> 02:27:51,790
 I finally feel the joy of using the fear of others

2674
02:27:51,790 --> 02:27:53,330
as weapons 

2675
02:27:53,330 --> 02:27:56,460
You have threatened me too much. You kidnapped my family 

2676
02:27:56,460 --> 02:28:00,000
 Up to nowyou still don't allow my employees to go back home.

2677
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:02,620
 You put my employees in jail for another three months. We will see,

2678
02:28:03,290 --> 02:28:06,620
ahundred times more in the future  you insult me now,I will make you suffer

2679
02:28:08,620 --> 02:28:10,710
 Mr. Xiao Pinghow comelam the one hosting the show now

2680
02:28:10,710 --> 02:28:16,250
No,you were agitated,sol didnt want to interrupt you. 

2681
02:28:16,250 --> 02:28:18,460
 And now, have you finishedI will start my questions

2682
02:28:18,460 --> 02:28:19,790
 OK.

2683
02:28:19,790 --> 02:28:22,710
Iwill continues my questions.I need to take back the control as the host 

2684
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:24,580
Iallowed you to give out your opinions just now. 

2685
02:28:24,670 --> 02:28:27,670
I think all the audience would also like to know the latest updates 

2686
02:28:27,670 --> 02:28:30,080
 of the Caixin case.

2687
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:31,620
 But it wasjusta brief interlude.

2688
02:28:31,620 --> 02:28:35,460
 But then,you mentioned Guan Jun and Liu Cheng Jie. You mentioned

2689
02:28:35,460 --> 02:28:36,710
that you obtained their information from Fu Zhenghua 

2690
02:28:36,710 --> 02:28:38,790
Who gave you the information about Suen Yiu 

2691
02:28:39,960 --> 02:28:42,420
 This is critical. Mr. Xiaoping you have got the key point

2692
02:28:42,420 --> 02:28:44,420
It is very vital that you studied law. 

2693
02:28:44,420 --> 02:28:45,460
 You are very logical.

2694
02:28:45,460 --> 02:28:50,420
Mr.He Pinis romantic,he always talks about aspirations and romance. 

2695
02:28:50,420 --> 02:28:51,920
 He used to write love stories when he was young

2696
02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:54,830
 Mr. He Pinis not practical.

2697
02:28:54,830 --> 02:28:56,670
 You are more logical and practical.

2698
02:28:56,670 --> 02:29:01,880
Tobe honest,acurrentmember from  the Standing Committee gaveme.

2699
02:29:03,330 --> 02:29:04,670
 A current member from the Standing Committee

2700
02:29:04,670 --> 02:29:10,790
2014 gave me three pieces of core information at the end of 2014.

2701
02:29:10,790 --> 02:29:13,080
2015110 The incident on January 10,2015 was not out yet.

2702
02:29:13,210 --> 02:29:14,920
 HonestlyIidn't pay attention to the information he offered me

2703
02:29:15,400 --> 02:29:17,400
I just went through the information roughly.

2704
02:29:18,170 --> 02:29:21,460
 Then Mr. Gao Hui from the special action unit under the deputy minister Ma Jian

2705
02:29:21,460 --> 02:29:25,330
 mentioned this member again.I have born this in mind.

2706
02:29:25,460 --> 02:29:28,880
2015 After this incident occurred in 2015,l started to investigate

2707
02:29:28,880 --> 02:29:31,330
Iorganize,the more informationl got.  and organize the information. The more

2708
02:29:31,420 --> 02:29:36,210
israthersoftas comparedtoother officials  And this current member of the Standing Committee

2709
02:29:37,380 --> 02:29:38,830
7 Hegavemeseven names.

2710
02:29:39,830 --> 02:29:43,920
7 Nowlhave realized these seven figures are all unbelievable.

2711
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:48,290
Jun,Li Chengjie Sn Yiu and Yao Qing  Every single one of them are just like Guan

2712
02:29:48,290 --> 02:29:50,620
 In Chinaobjectively speaking,there are

2713
02:29:51,075 --> 02:29:53,075
dozens of corrupt officials like them, not just one.

2714
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:57,460
Not hundreds of them. China will be  over if there are hundreds of them

2715
02:29:57,460 --> 02:30:00,170
cannibalism if there are hundreds of them.  Chinese folks would have to practice

2716
02:30:00,290 --> 02:30:05,330
201576 25 trillion dollars disappeared

2717
02:30:05,330 --> 02:30:08,330
25 in one week during the financial crisis on July6,2015.

2718
02:30:08,920 --> 02:30:12,080
74 This relates to 4 out of these 7 figures.

2719
02:30:13,080 --> 02:30:15,540
Thestolen 25 trillion dollars from the Chinese folks 25

2720
02:30:15,540 --> 02:30:17,330
 has definitely something to do with them

2721
02:30:17,330 --> 02:30:18,750
Whatlam going to expose 

2722
02:30:18,750 --> 02:30:23,710
e are connected to incidents regarding Ezubao and Pan-Asia.

2723
02:30:23,710 --> 02:30:28,000
This is a well-planned and massive looting of financial gain. 

2724
02:30:28,420 --> 02:30:30,040
 Itold the US government that

2725
02:30:30,040 --> 02:30:33,920
 it was a financial fraud,a crime. They totally understood

2726
02:30:33,920 --> 02:30:36,000
government has been investigating on the case too And the officials don't know that the US 

2727
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:37,620
since a lot of officials of the US government also lost money. 

2728
02:30:37,620 --> 02:30:39,880
Many US companies are investigating on it as well 

2729
02:30:39,960 --> 02:30:42,920
 Nowlshow you the evidences. They are shocked as well.

2730
02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:44,790
These people have huge amount of assets in the US. 

2731
02:30:44,790 --> 02:30:48,170
 This was why l strongly supported the Magnitsky Act promoted

2732
02:30:48,170 --> 02:30:48,830
 by Mr. Yang Jianli.

2733
02:30:48,830 --> 02:30:50,460
Yes,Magnitsky 

2734
02:30:50,620 --> 02:30:52,620
 Iprovided a lot of information on this case.

2735
02:30:52,620 --> 02:30:56,790
or even trillions of USD of assets in the US.  These people have hundreds of billions of USD

2736
02:30:56,790 --> 02:30:58,710
These money belong to Chinese folks. 

2737
02:30:58,710 --> 02:31:01,620
Ihaven't provided information about these seven people yet. 7

2738
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:05,170
 You won't be able to bear it,to be honest,after my disclosure.

2739
02:31:05,170 --> 02:31:07,920
 You and Mr. He Pin will want to commit suicide.

2740
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:10,710
 Your commentary programs have way too few views in comparison

2741
02:31:10,960 --> 02:31:14,500
Mr.He Pinis only aware of 100 million RMB. 

2742
02:31:14,540 --> 02:31:16,250
lt is not about 100 million RMB.The reality is,they are stealing trillions of RMB from us. 

2743
02:31:16,380 --> 02:31:18,710
Itold Mr. He Pin that hewas wrong we are talking about 1 trillion here. 

2744
02:31:18,710 --> 02:31:21,960
. Numbers perplex him,he has no such concept of trillions of dollars.

2745
02:31:21,960 --> 02:31:24,830
You know what's going They are stealing 10 and even 20 trillions of RMB. 

2746
02:31:24,920 --> 02:31:26,380
 Do you understand,Mr. Xiaoping

2747
02:31:26,460 --> 02:31:29,330
So nowyou have to adjust your thoughts and mindset 

2748
02:31:29,880 --> 02:31:31,580
Imean business. 

2749
02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:39,500
about the leader who manipulates behind the scene  So finally you have revealed some more information

2750
02:31:39,500 --> 02:31:43,330
members of the Standing committee right  The information was given by one of the current

2751
02:31:43,380 --> 02:31:44,170
 Not just one of them

2752
02:31:44,170 --> 02:31:46,920
 Not just one of them So can you tell us how many of them we are talking about

2753
02:31:46,920 --> 02:31:48,080
There were 7 members. 

2754
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:49,250
How many of them disclosed.. ..

2755
02:31:49,290 --> 02:31:50,120
Ican'ttell you this. 

2756
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:50,920
 Okay.

2757
02:31:51,790 --> 02:31:54,330
 But you will know in the future whenI disclose more in the future.

2758
02:31:56,500 --> 02:31:57,670
And one more question. 

2759
02:31:58,120 --> 02:32:01,620
 Only one left That quickI thought we have just begun the interview.

2760
02:32:01,620 --> 02:32:03,670
It is not the last question,I have still got several questions to ask you. 

2761
02:32:05,710 --> 02:32:07,830
 So you have changed your attitude towards Wang Qishan,

2762
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:12,500
. when compared to when we made the first interviewright

2763
02:32:12,500 --> 02:32:14,170
l think everyone knows that 

2764
02:32:15,170 --> 02:32:19,420
president Xi secretary Wang and secretary Meng are linked together. 

2765
02:32:19,420 --> 02:32:21,920
 Those three people are linked together.

2766
02:32:21,960 --> 02:32:22,620
That's right. 

2767
02:32:24,250 --> 02:32:29,210
 linked together,but things have changed a bit Since the second episode,though they are still

2768
02:32:29,210 --> 02:32:33,460
At the third episode, you had already exposed 

2769
02:32:33,460 --> 02:32:36,500
 the dopes of Wang Qishan on the VOA interview

2770
02:32:36,500 --> 02:32:42,790
lam wonderingsince when had he offended you 

2771
02:32:42,790 --> 02:32:46,830
 Why would you drastically change your attitude towards him

2772
02:32:46,830 --> 02:32:49,120
Can you explain about that 

2773
02:32:50,040 --> 02:32:52,120
 Speakingof which

2774
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:53,170
 tobe honest,

2775
02:32:53,170 --> 02:32:54,330
 My heart feels heavy when talking about that.

2776
02:32:55,210 --> 02:32:58,960
 lt is complicated butl will put itinsimple words.

2777
02:32:58,960 --> 02:33:01,290
 We don't beat around the bush like Mr.He Pin

2778
02:33:01,290 --> 02:33:02,080
Let's put it this way 

2779
02:33:02,210 --> 02:33:05,670
lused to respect Mr. Qishan a lot, 

2780
02:33:06,040 --> 02:33:10,580
just like Irespected Zhu Rongju. 

2781
02:33:10,580 --> 02:33:13,000
 But then I found out that both of them are liars

2782
02:33:13,120 --> 02:33:16,880
they are super liars.They cheat the country 

2783
02:33:16,880 --> 02:33:18,380
 This hurt me a lot.

2784
02:33:18,380 --> 02:33:20,580
This is about righteousness and justice 

2785
02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:23,210
At the second episode 

2786
02:33:23,210 --> 02:33:24,540
they arrested my family 

2787
02:33:24,540 --> 02:33:26,960
I didn't believe he was the person behind this 

2788
02:33:26,960 --> 02:33:28,830
 My family members were arrested and made disappeared.

2789
02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:31,330
But there were just rumors,there . were no proofs, soldidn't believe in it.

2790
02:33:32,420 --> 02:33:33,330
The connection is off again? 

2791
02:33:34,790 --> 02:33:35,380
 Is it off

2792
02:33:37,710 --> 02:33:42,580
 But latercurrent members from the Standing Committee

2793
02:33:42,580 --> 02:33:45,710
 Politburo and non-politburo gave me proofs to show

2794
02:33:45,710 --> 02:33:47,670
that he was the one who pulled the strings. 

2795
02:33:48,040 --> 02:33:51,380
 Before the old leader meet me in New York

2796
02:33:51,790 --> 02:33:54,250
 Andl got more proofs from Zhongnanhai

2797
02:33:54,250 --> 02:33:57,250
showing he was the one to blame before meeting the old leader in New York 

2798
02:33:58,080 --> 02:33:59,380
which left me no choice in the matter. 

2799
02:34:00,830 --> 02:34:02,460
 Secondlyuring the investigation

2800
02:34:02,880 --> 02:34:05,580
I found out there's more. 

2801
02:34:05,580 --> 02:34:08,380
 And it turns out that there isn't anyone who is clean.

2802
02:34:08,380 --> 02:34:13,420
more corrupt,and nastier. No one's clean There are many more and they are dirtier, 

2803
02:34:14,120 --> 02:34:20,460
 After allhe is a very important figure in China, And the fact that he isstained scares me.

2804
02:34:20,460 --> 02:34:21,920
and he is also someone I respected. 

2805
02:34:21,920 --> 02:34:24,500
 Also,he plays a crucial part in Guo Wengui incident.

2806
02:34:24,500 --> 02:34:26,290
 So he really left me no choice because

2807
02:34:26,290 --> 02:34:30,620
 what happened to my employees and family is unacceptable.

2808
02:34:30,620 --> 02:34:33,170
 They have been trying to murder, lie and threaten me.

2809
02:34:33,170 --> 02:34:39,080
 They constantly employed national power to attack me.l got no choice but to strike back.

2810
02:34:39,080 --> 02:34:43,540
Then I realised the truth. 

2811
02:34:43,540 --> 02:34:47,420
 Ifound out that he is the one behind the scene.

2812
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:51,080
When you were making the second episode with Mingjing  you still didn't know that he was the one behind the scene?

2813
02:34:51,290 --> 02:34:52,620
Isuspected,butl was not sure about it. 

2814
02:34:52,620 --> 02:34:53,170
 Uncertain.

2815
02:34:53,170 --> 02:34:57,750
 So recently lpissed him off because lhave been revealing information about him. He even got sick and was senttohospital.

2816
02:34:57,750 --> 02:35:01,330
 He was seriously ill.ltold the new official leader yesterday

2817
02:35:01,330 --> 02:35:04,420
thatl was willing to give him a call to apologize. 

2818
02:35:04,420 --> 02:35:07,330
lam even willing to write him an apology  letter. No matterwhat happened,

2819
02:35:07,330 --> 02:35:11,540
lused to respect him and we actually know each other 

2820
02:35:12,380 --> 02:35:15,830
 But what he did to me really broke my heart and disappointed me.

2821
02:35:15,830 --> 02:35:19,620
 It too was a heavy blow tomy life.

2822
02:35:19,670 --> 02:35:22,460
After all,we believed in these leaders. 

2823
02:35:22,650 --> 02:35:24,650
We trusted them. They were our future, support and idols.

2824
02:35:25,210 --> 02:35:29,170
 No one knows things will end up this way. Nothing else we can do about it.

2825
02:35:32,750 --> 02:35:36,120
 You made him so mad that he had to go to the hospital after you revealed the information

2826
02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:37,710
tohospitalbecauselpissed himoffsobadly  People told me about that. They said hewent

2827
02:35:37,710 --> 02:35:40,000
 And they even said that his life hung bya thread

2828
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:43,330
 He hasn't showed up in public for a fewweeks. That's everyone's concern.

2829
02:35:43,420 --> 02:35:48,380
He has been having some health problems 

2830
02:35:48,380 --> 02:35:50,710
So people started to say that you made him so mad by revealing his information that he had to go to the hospital 

2831
02:35:51,540 --> 02:35:55,290
Well,to be fair,lam not the only one to be fully  blamed.ltis no good for him in such an old age.

2832
02:35:55,330 --> 02:35:57,880
 arrested way too many innocent people And he wronged so many people,he

2833
02:36:00,330 --> 02:36:02,580
 This is his retribution People's resentment against him can make him suffer. This is karma.

2834
02:36:03,420 --> 02:36:06,210
 During the second interview

2835
02:36:06,210 --> 02:36:10,880
 you confirmed that Wang Qishan was the person who went after you.

2836
02:36:11,960 --> 02:36:13,080
 So

2837
02:36:13,080 --> 02:36:16,880
429 you started to reveal Wang Qishan during the show of VOA

2838
02:36:17,040 --> 02:36:18,250
on April29,right 

2839
02:36:18,420 --> 02:36:19,460
 Yes.

2840
02:36:20,290 --> 02:36:22,420
 Was there any personal conflicts between the two of you before

2841
02:36:22,450 --> 02:36:23,775
No

2842
02:36:23,790 --> 02:36:24,460
 Absolutely no

2843
02:36:24,460 --> 02:36:28,000
 But l think he fell into others' traps

2844
02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:31,040
 igot personal conflicts with Liu Zhihua

2845
02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:33,420
and Liu Zhihua's boss,Pan Shiyi 

2846
02:36:33,420 --> 02:36:35,790
 Pan Shiyi is very close with Wang Qishan

2847
02:36:35,790 --> 02:36:37,290
 and those people around him

2848
02:36:37,290 --> 02:36:41,920
 Since Pan Shiyi lost his war with me so they

2849
02:36:42,120 --> 02:36:44,880
bad mouthed me to Wang Qishan 

2850
02:36:44,880 --> 02:36:47,500
60 They saidlwas in my 60's,went bald and

2851
02:36:47,500 --> 02:36:49,750
 originated from Henan Province who couldn't speak proper Mandarin.

2852
02:36:49,750 --> 02:36:51,460
 Then Wang Qishan believed in what they said

2853
02:36:51,460 --> 02:36:54,790
 They said Iwasa liar and i got no power.

2854
02:36:54,790 --> 02:36:58,330
 to the grassroots He believed them all. They saidl was a farmer andI belonged

2855
02:36:58,330 --> 02:37:00,830
After we met, he realized thatlwas nothing like they said 

2856
02:37:00,830 --> 02:37:02,000
Istarted to know each other. 

2857
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:04,620
 But then the Liu Zhihua incident occurred. He was embarrassed

2858
02:37:04,620 --> 02:37:06,960
This is personal conflicts 

2859
02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:09,120
 And later Qishan was affected by those false rumors

2860
02:37:09,120 --> 02:37:12,880
about me spread bya lot of others 

2861
02:37:18,210 --> 02:37:19,380
You are thinking,Xiaoping 

2862
02:37:19,380 --> 02:37:20,170
 iam not.

2863
02:37:20,290 --> 02:37:21,500
 Or you areshocked?

2864
02:37:21,500 --> 02:37:22,290
 lam not shocked.

2865
02:37:22,330 --> 02:37:29,210
lam thinking about Anbang Insurance Group's Wu Xiaohui. 

2866
02:37:29,210 --> 02:37:30,380
which also links me to Wang Qishan. 

2867
02:37:30,380 --> 02:37:36,380
This is only an imagination that Wang  Qishan is standing behind Caixin News.

2868
02:37:36,460 --> 02:37:43,170
then there were a few lawsuits 

2869
02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:46,290
 between Caixin and Anbang Insurance.

2870
02:37:46,290 --> 02:37:51,750
 Wu Xiaohui was arrested at last

2871
02:37:51,750 --> 02:37:54,210
 People therefore think that Wang Qishan is still powerful

2872
02:37:54,210 --> 02:37:56,330
such that Wu Xiaohui 

2873
02:37:56,330 --> 02:37:58,920
 was arrested at last.

2874
02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:02,540
 You mentioned that Mr. Wang Qishan is sick

2875
02:38:02,540 --> 02:38:03,880
butlam thinking 

2876
02:38:03,880 --> 02:38:06,750
if,as said by the public 

2877
02:38:06,750 --> 02:38:09,880
 Wang Qishan's great power even knocked down the power behind Wu Xiaohui.

2878
02:38:09,880 --> 02:38:13,540
 Idefinitely believe so.lam well aware of things between

2879
02:38:13,540 --> 02:38:15,540
Wang Qishan and Mr. Wang Ruilin 

2880
02:38:15,540 --> 02:38:18,420
 since they were two core figures in this matter.

2881
02:38:18,460 --> 02:38:25,210
 So the person he trusts most is a good friend of mine.

2882
02:38:25,210 --> 02:38:28,170
 Wang Ruilin's most trusted friend is also a good friend of mine.

2883
02:38:28,330 --> 02:38:32,250
lknow clearly about the things they argued. 

2884
02:38:32,250 --> 02:38:38,880
 This is very cruel but it makes no difference when a farmer quarrels

2885
02:38:38,920 --> 02:38:41,420
 with another farmer

2886
02:38:41,420 --> 02:38:44,710
 Don't think that the officials are upright and respectable

2887
02:38:44,710 --> 02:38:46,790
just because they sit on the rostrum and speak with courtesy. 

2888
02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:49,960
When officials open their mouth,they talk nonsense. 

2889
02:38:50,500 --> 02:38:52,500
They also take off their clothes when they have  a bath.

2890
02:38:53,580 --> 02:38:56,250
He pulls off his pants when he sleeps with someone. He doesn't have sex with clothes on. 

2891
02:38:56,250 --> 02:38:59,830
 Heis ordinary person like us.

2892
02:38:59,830 --> 02:39:02,620
 He doesn't have supernatural power.

2893
02:39:02,620 --> 02:39:05,790
 When you see him through you will realize that

2894
02:39:05,790 --> 02:39:10,250
 heis even dirtier than ordinary people. He is not as great as you think.

2895
02:39:10,250 --> 02:39:13,880
 Dont listen to their nonsense.

2896
02:39:13,880 --> 02:39:17,580
 When they fight and snap at each other they will also curse each other's ancestors.

2897
02:39:17,580 --> 02:39:20,830
 Andthey threatenedeachother

2898
02:39:20,920 --> 02:39:23,960
 They said the worst things to each other.

2899
02:39:23,960 --> 02:39:28,500
After several years, 

2900
02:39:28,500 --> 02:39:29,670
lknow he will definitely destroy Wang Ruilindefinitely. 

2901
02:39:29,670 --> 02:39:31,920
 Wang Qishan would not let Deng's family

2902
02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:34,040
oranyone related Deng's family go 

2903
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:36,120
 Just look at Guo Wengui

2904
02:39:36,120 --> 02:39:38,460
 My employee was treated poorly because he is related tome.

2905
02:39:38,460 --> 02:39:39,880
ltis not a great deal to threaten my friends. 

2906
02:39:39,880 --> 02:39:41,960
Is it necessary to monitor thousands of people 

2907
02:39:41,960 --> 02:39:45,080
 They want me dead. They tried to murder me.

2908
02:39:45,080 --> 02:39:48,620
lam confused why the leader of the central government didn't understand it 

2909
02:39:48,620 --> 02:39:53,380
 They tried to murder the whole family of Guo Wengui

2910
02:39:53,380 --> 02:39:55,460
 and his employees families as well.

2911
02:39:55,460 --> 02:39:58,540
They treated Deng's family and Wang Ruilin the same. 

2912
02:39:58,540 --> 02:40:01,710
 But neither Wang Ruilin Guo Boxiong and Xu Caihou are real men.

2913
02:40:01,710 --> 02:40:04,210
There are no real men in Chinal would say 

2914
02:40:04,210 --> 02:40:07,710
 No one would dare to come forward and fight against the evils.

2915
02:40:07,710 --> 02:40:10,460
 None of them dare to do so.

2916
02:40:10,460 --> 02:40:14,580
 They left things to chance and they were all arrested and killed.

2917
02:40:14,580 --> 02:40:17,250
the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection  For example,Jin Daoming a deputy secretary of

2918
02:40:17,750 --> 02:40:18,500
 is from Shanxi.

2919
02:40:18,500 --> 02:40:23,120
 Yes,he is. Heis a close friend of mine. He asked for my help before he got arrested.

2920
02:40:23,170 --> 02:40:25,040
Itold him to take them back withhim He was trying to leave his stuff at my place. 

2921
02:40:25,040 --> 02:40:28,290
Itold him that he should thank me that I didn't report him 

2922
02:40:28,290 --> 02:40:31,580
 Hesaid it would be fine to leave his stuff at my place.ltwasjust some routine inspection

2923
02:40:31,580 --> 02:40:33,880
 Isaid,you should strike back otherwise you would end up dead.

2924
02:40:33,880 --> 02:40:35,620
 You won't be able to return.See You can now see his result

2925
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:40,620
He would be beaten up if people discover his stuff. 

2926
02:40:40,620 --> 02:40:45,580
 Fighting corruption by corruption

2927
02:40:45,670 --> 02:40:49,830
inhumane and it will harm the descendants. triad gangs and police force is really 

2928
02:40:49,830 --> 02:40:51,880
They wouldn't let go of anyone who goes against him,not even grassroots like me. 

2929
02:40:51,880 --> 02:40:54,540
So Wan Ruilin is so naive 

2930
02:40:54,540 --> 02:40:56,620
 Heis still waiting for the old leader's words.

2931
02:40:56,620 --> 02:41:01,000
They would use every mean to destroy you 

2932
02:41:01,000 --> 02:41:04,290
nomatter what. 

2933
02:41:04,290 --> 02:41:08,380
 They would kill you eventually. Thisis a fight between the evils.

2934
02:41:08,580 --> 02:41:12,540
Thereis an international news about Comrade  Bao regarding the  Seven rules of Guo'

2935
02:41:12,540 --> 02:41:13,460
 Mr.BaoTong.

2936
02:41:13,460 --> 02:41:15,750
 He said something about my suggestion of ruling the country with darkness.

2937
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:19,080
Ireally admire him. We are lucky to have such a man in China. 

2938
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:22,170
 lam proud for being a man.

2939
02:41:22,170 --> 02:41:23,960
 His look,temperament and writing are amazing.

2940
02:41:23,960 --> 02:41:26,500
 Hepointed out the ruling of the country with darkness.

2941
02:41:26,500 --> 02:41:29,500
The things that l am telling you now are involved 

2942
02:41:29,500 --> 02:41:31,380
with dark tricks of the gangs 

2943
02:41:31,380 --> 02:41:33,960
 Dark tactics were also used to Wang Ruilin

2944
02:41:33,960 --> 02:41:41,830
 Wu Xiaohui was only a small matter you would not understand it.

2945
02:41:42,620 --> 02:41:45,880
 No,we have to invite you Li Xiaohui.

2946
02:41:45,880 --> 02:41:51,210
 This is a contest in profits,the distribution of the profits, and at the same time it is a matter of life and death.

2947
02:41:51,330 --> 02:41:56,460
yourself safe,and make sure your posterity is safe.  And,you have to take down your enemies,to make

2948
02:41:56,460 --> 02:42:00,120
 And at the same time you steal your countryandbesnitched.

2949
02:42:00,120 --> 02:42:04,080
 You will do anything to save yourself

2950
02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:05,620
in this brutal fight. 

2951
02:42:05,620 --> 02:42:07,540
It is a war without rules 

2952
02:42:08,040 --> 02:42:11,120
 If Wang Ruilin held any naive thoughts,you would'veseen

2953
02:42:11,120 --> 02:42:15,750
 his grave stone, not mine,his, let us wait and see.

2954
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:19,880
Half a year ago, Wu Xiaohui was still naive. He told my friend 

2955
02:42:19,880 --> 02:42:21,670
noone will try to take me down,this and that. 

2956
02:42:21,670 --> 02:42:23,670
 Guess what happened to him He's in jail now,and he won't be able to get out.

2957
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:26,580
Just like that guy,Xiao Jianhua. He said things like 

2958
02:42:26,580 --> 02:42:28,540
how great lam'or how closelam with this guy or that guy'to me 

2959
02:42:28,540 --> 02:42:31,460
 AndItold him I'm gonna be frank with you. You have no idea how powerful they are,

2960
02:42:31,540 --> 02:42:32,920
 and that bits of money of yours can't even pay for their snacks.

2961
02:42:34,500 --> 02:42:38,880
learn their secrets,especially the dark ones, When you know the truth,and when you 

2962
02:42:38,880 --> 02:42:41,670
 then you will be killed. They'll do anything to keep your mouth shut."

2963
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:44,790
 lknow way too much today andlwill be eliminated.

2964
02:42:44,880 --> 02:42:48,420
You said there is no personal grudge  and even grudge wouldn't cost my life

2965
02:42:48,420 --> 02:42:50,170
already one reason to be killed. This is the first thing  But,if one person has learnt too much about them,that's

2966
02:42:50,170 --> 02:42:53,620
Secondly,they eliminate others because of the  fact that others'existence posts threats tothem

2967
02:42:53,620 --> 02:42:56,330
 There is no law or reasoning in this How would there be any morality orjustice?

2968
02:42:56,380 --> 02:42:58,920
 Being sent to the Beijing is the best treatment you can get.

2969
02:42:58,920 --> 02:43:01,620
The fact that they didnt give you the same ending as  LiMingand Xu Ming should be great news for you.

2970
02:43:01,620 --> 02:43:04,040
Why you keep smiling at what l'm saying.  It's like you're delighted about this

2971
02:43:04,040 --> 02:43:07,120
It's nothing,ljust like the way you speak 

2972
02:43:07,120 --> 02:43:10,040
 When you stood up and started to speak I've already lost my control on you.

2973
02:43:10,200 --> 02:43:12,200
So please sit down, I can have a better control over the interview.

2974
02:43:12,540 --> 02:43:15,670
Ifeel like a dummy host 

2975
02:43:15,670 --> 02:43:17,330
 when you were agitated

2976
02:43:17,330 --> 02:43:18,540
 I'mso sorry

2977
02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:21,580
The audience must be saying that ls this Chen Xiaoping really a host? 

2978
02:43:21,580 --> 02:43:24,670
Guo Wengui doesn't seem to be being interviewed. 

2979
02:43:24,670 --> 02:43:29,670
follow-up questions for the previous question  Therefore,Ihave to drag you back. There are 

2980
02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:32,750
which is,according to what you've said 

2981
02:43:32,750 --> 02:43:36,290
 Are Deng's family and Wang Ruilin behind Wu Xiaohui?

2982
02:43:36,290 --> 02:43:41,380
Of course! Yes,that is what Imeant. This belongs to Zhuo Ran,who holds a Hong Kong passport 

2983
02:43:41,460 --> 02:43:44,920
78 and Hong Kong ID card. Zhuo Ran.Zhuo Ran's kid is around seven or eight years old.

2984
02:43:44,920 --> 02:43:45,920
 She's never been divorced.

2985
02:43:46,380 --> 02:43:49,540
That Miss Hu Shuli incident is just a rumor. They are a lovely couple 

2986
02:43:50,380 --> 02:43:52,000
They have two jets 

2987
02:43:52,000 --> 02:43:55,380
and each of them flies around 900 hours per year. 900

2988
02:43:55,380 --> 02:43:57,580
900 Do you know how long is 900 hours

2989
02:43:57,580 --> 02:43:59,920
Those 900 hours up in the sky per year 900

2990
02:43:59,920 --> 02:44:02,580
show us how much Wu Xiaohui loves his family. 

2991
02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:06,120
But Wu Xiaohui is very mean. 

2992
02:44:06,120 --> 02:44:09,540
 Heis definitely a villain in moral sense.

2993
02:44:09,540 --> 02:44:13,380
I've helped him once,and he stopped socializing with you  when he got what he wanted. Heis this kind of person.

2994
02:44:13,380 --> 02:44:17,210
Heis just a fake son-in-law,just afake officiallingsecond generation of official). 

2995
02:44:17,210 --> 02:44:18,790
But he has the same shortcomings as other officiallings 

2996
02:44:18,790 --> 02:44:22,580
 house to give gifts since he was born He has seen people coming to his

2997
02:44:22,580 --> 02:44:24,710
There wouldn't be once that he gives anything to others 

2998
02:44:24,710 --> 02:44:27,210
Therefore,all the officiallings have this common problem. 

2999
02:44:27,210 --> 02:44:29,580
and it's a crime that you don't pay tributes to them  They assume that it's in their rights to gain from others

3000
02:44:29,580 --> 02:44:31,420
athing about anything you've given to them. And it's the same reason why they wonit remember 

3001
02:44:31,420 --> 02:44:35,250
ForWu Xiaohuiwhoisfake son-in-lawandfake officiallings 

3002
02:44:35,250 --> 02:44:37,000
 he just thinks that you are obliged to offer help for him

3003
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:38,620
and believes that there is no need to thank anybody. 

3004
02:44:38,620 --> 02:44:40,380
Solsaid to him when I had a meal with him 

3005
02:44:40,380 --> 02:44:42,920
 Ihatethis kind of fake officiallings the most.'

3006
02:44:42,920 --> 02:44:48,120
 So,Wu Xiaohui is amoral but he is also shrewd and competent.

3007
02:44:48,120 --> 02:44:50,460
 Xiao Jianhua, Li You and Li Xiaohui have one thing in common

3008
02:44:50,460 --> 02:44:53,620
in which they have neither legal boundaries nor moral boundaries 

3009
02:44:53,620 --> 02:44:56,920
 Because of the lack of legal and moral boundaries they cheated the party and the country

3010
02:44:56,920 --> 02:44:59,080
 The more lies they tell,the more skillful they are in telling lies

3011
02:44:59,080 --> 02:45:02,420
the Communist party are the winners of China  They've always said that those who candeceive

3012
02:45:02,420 --> 02:45:04,540
 If you can deceive the Communist party,then you're the winner.

3013
02:45:04,540 --> 02:45:07,380
If you can be even darker than the party.  then you're the winner. That's his logic of life.

3014
02:45:07,500 --> 02:45:10,830
Therefore,I'm not fond of this person. But I have to say 

3015
02:45:12,120 --> 02:45:15,460
 Anbang Insurance Group is just a small sacrifice.

3016
02:45:16,330 --> 02:45:19,960
lt is a trillion empire. We know it's is definitely huge at the beginning. 

3017
02:45:19,960 --> 02:45:23,250
largest shareholder of China Merchants Bank  Alot of people asked,since he is the second

3018
02:45:23,250 --> 02:45:25,290
the largest shareholder of MinSheng Bank 

3019
02:45:25,290 --> 02:45:28,040
 and the largest shareholder of multiple financial institutions.

3020
02:45:28,040 --> 02:45:30,120
 Can you imagine that when you take all these into accounts?

3021
02:45:30,120 --> 02:45:32,290
 Thepopulation of Henan

3022
02:45:32,290 --> 02:45:35,540
is around a hundred million people,and their total wealth 11

3023
02:45:35,620 --> 02:45:36,620
wouldn't even worth as much as that of his company 

3024
02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:41,540
you said he's going to be released.  Speaking of this wealthy Xiao Jianhua

3025
02:45:41,540 --> 02:45:43,830
you said he's going to be released. Speaking of this wealthy Xiao Jianhua, 

3026
02:45:43,830 --> 02:45:44,920
What does this imply? 

3027
02:45:44,920 --> 02:45:49,290
 As Wu Xiaohui was put in jail Xiao is released

3028
02:45:49,290 --> 02:45:54,710
 It's just splitting money. Xiao Jianhua agreed to give away some of his assets to certain people. lt's justthat simple

3029
02:45:54,750 --> 02:45:57,290
 The reason behind is that everything isruled by lawnow.

3030
02:45:57,290 --> 02:45:59,210
 If you want to go home you have to leave your money behind.

3031
02:45:59,210 --> 02:46:03,250
 other's lrobbed you when you walk out. It's just like robbery.Dude,don't tell

3032
02:46:03,330 --> 02:46:07,460
Leave your money behind,andI will let you go. Gosinga few anthems for me when you're out It's just that simple. 

3033
02:46:07,500 --> 02:46:11,920
chunk of money as wellover 10 billion dollars,right That is Xu Qiang's mode. Xu Qiang paid a huge 100

3034
02:46:11,920 --> 02:46:14,210
That is correct. The current situation is that you have to leave money behind in exchange for your freedom. 

3035
02:46:14,290 --> 02:46:15,540
They will let you go if you pay them  enough,regardless of who you are.

3036
02:46:15,540 --> 02:46:22,710
prostitutes in night clubs. Just like back in the days  Private companies are nothing. They're just like

3037
02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:26,620
Ihit somebody once who is an official of  Central Commission for Discipline Inspection

3038
02:46:26,620 --> 02:46:28,210
He went to this night club 

3039
02:46:28,210 --> 02:46:29,120
Back then our Yuda Palace hotel had a  nightclub which was closed down now.

3040
02:46:29,120 --> 02:46:30,500
 Back then our Yuda Palace hotel had a nightclub which was closed down now.

3041
02:46:30,500 --> 02:46:33,380
That guy not only refused to pay the girl after she served him on bed, 

3042
02:46:33,420 --> 02:46:35,330
he aiso beat that girl up 

3043
02:46:35,330 --> 02:46:37,040
 Ihappened to be there for a drink and witnessed the whole incident,

3044
02:46:37,040 --> 02:46:38,750
solbeat him up. 

3045
02:46:38,750 --> 02:46:41,700
The reason is simple. How could you not pay after the service 

3046
02:46:41,700 --> 02:46:44,300
 And you didnt just refuse topayyou also grabbed her necklace away.

3047
02:46:44,500 --> 02:46:48,800
isay this guyis just ridiculous And the  So-called anti-corruption looks like this today

3048
02:46:48,800 --> 02:46:52,200
you get to sleep with the hooker and  you also get to pull her necklace off

3049
02:46:52,200 --> 02:46:53,200
and beat the hell out of her. 

3050
02:46:53,200 --> 02:46:56,700
 Then you get your ass out,leaving the money behind.Of course itisn't anything noble orideal.

3051
02:46:56,700 --> 02:46:57,600
 Don't listen to the bullshit they say

3052
02:46:57,800 --> 02:47:00,700
 They're all lying.Xiao Jianhua is an example.

3053
02:47:00,700 --> 02:47:05,000
 He raped someone, and grabbed her necklace and money.

3054
02:47:05,000 --> 02:47:08,300
 melikethis dude is awesome and he treats mewell Afterwards,all he did was saying good things about

3055
02:47:08,300 --> 02:47:09,900
This explains how we are connected 

3056
02:47:09,900 --> 02:47:13,700
 Okay let's get back to Wang Ruilin and Wang Qishan.

3057
02:47:15,100 --> 02:47:19,500
 These two Wangs have grudges between them,the story of the garage?

3058
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:21,200
 It's the story of the houses

3059
02:47:21,200 --> 02:47:22,300
 Housesor Garage?

3060
02:47:22,300 --> 02:47:24,700
It's a big house,and that house has something to do with the garage. 

3061
02:47:24,800 --> 02:47:28,300
Then it's said that Wang Qishan had his eyes on the garage but Wang Ruilin wouldn't give it to him no matter what 

3062
02:47:28,300 --> 02:47:32,200
 Nahit's not like that. So this is Wang Ruilin's home.

3063
02:47:32,200 --> 02:47:37,100
 and Wang Qishan got himself another house on Nanchizi Street.

3064
02:47:37,100 --> 02:47:40,500
 But he got a problem,which is the garage

3065
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:47,000
At the back of Wang Ruilin's house is a garage. 

3066
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:48,900
he wanted to make it into his own garage  Wang Qishan wanted to get that garage,and

3067
02:47:48,900 --> 02:47:51,900
 But Wang Ruilin refused to give it to him then they started a tug of war between them.

3068
02:47:51,900 --> 02:47:53,600
 Both wanted the other to bedead.

3069
02:47:56,000 --> 02:48:00,000
 Didn't you say that Wang Ruilin is powerful in the military

3070
02:48:00,200 --> 02:48:03,200
Yes,in fact heis the leader,the leader in the military 

3071
02:48:03,200 --> 02:48:05,800
Wang Ruilin are wrestling with each other  Then that means when Wang Qishan and

3072
02:48:05,800 --> 02:48:07,800
it means CCDI and the military are wrestling with each other as well. 

3073
02:48:07,800 --> 02:48:11,400
 All those foreign media said he (Wang Ruilin) has nothing to do with the military.

3074
02:48:11,500 --> 02:48:13,600
That's ignorance. They know nothing about China. 

3075
02:48:14,500 --> 02:48:19,100
 about the military. His biggest interestis themilitary Nobody...No one dares to say Wang Ruilin knows nothing

3076
02:48:19,900 --> 02:48:21,400
 That sounds very interesting. Can you talk a bit more about it

3077
02:48:21,400 --> 02:48:24,100
 I've promised the new leader not to talk about him so let's just stop here.

3078
02:48:24,100 --> 02:48:25,400
 You set upa roadblock for me again

3079
02:48:25,500 --> 02:48:30,700
 I'm not going to say anything. The information about the military is justtoo profound

3080
02:48:30,700 --> 02:48:31,700
 andl know too much about it.

3081
02:48:31,700 --> 02:48:34,200
 l know much more people in the military than he does.

3082
02:48:34,400 --> 02:48:37,000
AIl the core members are watching this 

3083
02:48:37,100 --> 02:48:39,100
and I believe the leaders know about this as well.

3084
02:48:39,200 --> 02:48:42,700
Mr.Wang's already had his hand on the CCDIand the finance faction of the country 

3085
02:48:42,700 --> 02:48:44,900
 Now he is encroaching on the military

3086
02:48:46,900 --> 02:48:51,900
Communist Party of China can be held  Whether the 19th National Congress of the

3087
02:48:51,900 --> 02:48:55,200
and how it proceeds will definitely define the future of everyone in the PRC. 

3088
02:48:56,700 --> 02:49:00,300
 And it's never that simple. Lots of people made guesses of this person and that person,

3089
02:49:00,300 --> 02:49:02,000
if they will maintain their usual practice..  whether theyll maintain their positions,and

3090
02:49:02,000 --> 02:49:05,700
It is never going to be that simple.lt's  never that simple.Let us wait and see.

3091
02:49:05,700 --> 02:49:06,400
That is correct,sol.. 

3092
02:49:06,400 --> 02:49:07,500
 When the 19th National Congress is held youll know it

3093
02:49:07,500 --> 02:49:12,600
 Right.So,alot of people are concerned about Wang Qishan's fate

3094
02:49:12,600 --> 02:49:13,800
 because of your disclosure;

3095
02:49:13,800 --> 02:49:18,000
 and on top of that he would reach the retirement age when the 19th National Congress is held.

3096
02:49:18,000 --> 02:49:21,300
 And there is rumor that Xi and Wang will have an alliance

3097
02:49:21,300 --> 02:49:26,800
Was this disclosure being reinforced or broken down 

3098
02:49:26,800 --> 02:49:29,200
 And another rumour about Wang Qishan is that

3099
02:49:29,200 --> 02:49:32,100
hewanted to remain in hisposition he has recently told Xi Jinping that 

3100
02:49:32,200 --> 02:49:34,500
Do you have any opinions on that 

3101
02:49:34,500 --> 02:49:36,500
 There are a lot of different rumors for sure,

3102
02:49:36,500 --> 02:49:38,200
but lthink there is a saying which is quite close to the truth 

3103
02:49:38,200 --> 02:49:38,800
 but lthink thereis a saying which is quite close to the truth

3104
02:49:38,800 --> 02:49:41,900
 lt is certain that he wants to stay. That is true for sure.

3105
02:49:41,900 --> 02:49:45,000
 But in my opinion you should not look at China in the end.

3106
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:47,300
 lam always sincere to President Xi.

3107
02:49:47,300 --> 02:49:50,100
l know President Xi his character and his family 

3108
02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:56,000
Ithink it really depends on the Jiang's and the Zeng's family 

3109
02:49:56,000 --> 02:50:01,200
They have some influences in this as well,and Hu,and all these old comrades. 

3110
02:50:01,200 --> 02:50:05,700
And aslsaid,in the future,whether these oldcomrades' benefitswillbeensured? 

3111
02:50:07,200 --> 02:50:10,100
How will it be safeguarded? Who will do the safeguarding 

3112
02:50:10,100 --> 02:50:11,900
 Allthese are crucial for deciding who will be responsible to hold the 19th National Congress.

3113
02:50:11,900 --> 02:50:15,800
 that hewill support President Xiat last And the most crucial thing is thatlam convinced

3114
02:50:16,600 --> 02:50:18,800
Hewill support 

3115
02:50:18,800 --> 02:50:22,900
 President Xi by his physical bodyimage,character and political ability.

3116
02:50:22,900 --> 02:50:28,200
If this is the case,I believe China will  elect a very young and competent team

3117
02:50:28,200 --> 02:50:30,300
 who are not absolutely free from corruption

3118
02:50:30,300 --> 02:50:33,000
AsIdon't think there is any politician that is free from corruption 

3119
02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:34,800
 But they will be comparatively clean-handed,and have ideals

3120
02:50:34,800 --> 02:50:36,200
 And that will be the blessing of all Chinese,

3121
02:50:36,600 --> 02:50:39,800
 as the advantage of age is irreplaceable.

3122
02:50:39,800 --> 02:50:45,100
 Moreover,I don't believe anyone can change the game ofage

3123
02:50:45,100 --> 02:50:46,800
since that would disrupt the order within the party. 

3124
02:50:46,800 --> 02:50:52,600
 people aren't going to wait or tolerate. Furthermore,today the common

3125
02:50:52,600 --> 02:50:54,800
 Its impossible to decide everything as you wish.

3126
02:50:55,900 --> 02:50:58,200
So your answer is that Wang Qishan has zero chance. 

3127
02:50:58,200 --> 02:50:59,700
 It'simpossible

3128
02:50:59,700 --> 02:51:01,400
 It's impossible.Ibelieve it's impossible.

3129
02:51:02,700 --> 02:51:08,000
standing committee,Jiang Zemin,and Zhu Rongji  You've just mentioned a few old members of the

3130
02:51:08,000 --> 02:51:09,500
 You have a pretty bad impression on Zhu.

3131
02:51:09,500 --> 02:51:13,200
And you mentioned Hu Jintao. These people's effect on.. 

3132
02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:15,000
 Now Zhu Rongji is the most classic figure

3133
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:17,600
like Zhao Gao or Li Si in Chinese history. 

3134
02:51:17,600 --> 02:51:20,800
 He's like Zhao Gao and Li Si. He is absoluteiy a really bad guy

3135
02:51:20,800 --> 02:51:22,100
 Heis just rich.

3136
02:51:22,100 --> 02:51:25,200
On what ground can his daughter and son work in China International Capital Corporation Limited or Bank of China 

3137
02:51:26,100 --> 02:51:30,200
On what ground can he announce to the public everyday on how much money his family has 

3138
02:51:30,200 --> 02:51:33,000
 show the public the assets he has If he dares to challenge me,I'm gonna

3139
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:33,500
 If he dares to challenge me,Im gonna show the public the assets he has.

3140
02:51:34,200 --> 02:51:37,800
the fight I'll show his money to the public for him.  But will he dare to do that If he dares to take

3141
02:51:39,800 --> 02:51:45,400
it is not scary not having Justice Bao.  Whatis pitiful about Chinese is that,

3142
02:51:45,400 --> 02:51:47,100
 Whatis scary is that there is fake Justice Bao.

3143
02:51:47,700 --> 02:51:50,800
but fake lawis the thing to be scared about Chinese say if you don't have law,that's fine 

3144
02:51:50,800 --> 02:51:56,500
when thereis no law at all That is lying  How could you conduct a trial bylaw

3145
02:51:56,500 --> 02:51:59,900
 It's like raping a person and then forcing hel to say she loves you. That's unreasonable.

3146
02:51:59,900 --> 02:52:03,800
 There are lots of fake clean-handed officials,

3147
02:52:03,800 --> 02:52:07,400
fake Justice Bao and fake ideals deceiving the civilians. /

3148
02:52:07,400 --> 02:52:11,000
 Our commoners are the most pitiful. We have tolerated all of these.

3149
02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:14,700
 We have been treated as pigs and dogs,and they made us believe in them,

3150
02:52:14,700 --> 02:52:18,600
dogs,and that we enjoyed being pigs or dogs and to admit that we are actually pigs and 

3151
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:22,800
 And they made us sayEat us. Rape us This is the sadness of our common people

3152
02:52:24,300 --> 02:52:26,400
 Go look around the world

3153
02:52:26,400 --> 02:52:28,100
 Where can you find such hardworking citizens like Chinese civilians

3154
02:52:28,100 --> 02:52:31,700
Let's not talk about the civilians and go back to Zhu Rongji. Let's try to stay on topic and talk about him 

3155
02:52:31,700 --> 02:52:32,900
 What Zhu Rongji does is deceiving the civilians.

3156
02:52:32,900 --> 02:52:36,200
Zhu you better tell me how much money  you have and how much your family owns?

3157
02:52:36,200 --> 02:52:39,500
 What is your son Zhu Yunlai doing

3158
02:52:39,500 --> 02:52:42,800
 How much does it cost for the house of Zhu Yunlai in New York?

3159
02:52:42,800 --> 02:52:44,100
 How much do you have overseas?

3160
02:52:44,100 --> 02:52:45,800
What kind of relationship does your China International  Capital Corporation Limited have with overseas

3161
02:52:45,800 --> 02:52:49,500
And for those cash you have at your home,what are the cash forAnd how many illegitimate children do you have? 

3162
02:52:49,500 --> 02:52:52,800
So, does Zhu Rongji have close relationship with Wang Qishan? 

3163
02:52:52,800 --> 02:52:54,500
the relationship of godfather and son  Of course they are close as they are

3164
02:52:54,500 --> 02:53:01,700
mentioned,Imean those that include Jiang Zemin · Godfather. And for those old leaders you've just

3165
02:53:01,700 --> 02:53:07,000
you.Jiang Zemin,Hu Jintao,Zeng Qinghong.. A lot of people said you have someone behind 

3166
02:53:07,000 --> 02:53:10,200
 Can you tell us about your relationship with them

3167
02:53:10,200 --> 02:53:13,500
 First of allwhoever said this has their intentions. They're bullshit

3168
02:53:13,500 --> 02:53:16,300
 l believe that,for the past 20 to 30 years

3169
02:53:16,300 --> 02:53:21,700
if Jiang Zemin does not exist in China,I think China won't be able to proceed to where we are today. 

3170
02:53:21,700 --> 02:53:24,100
 You speak very highly of Mr.Jiang Zemin

3171
02:53:24,100 --> 02:53:25,400
China wouldn't have been able to pull through 

3172
02:53:25,900 --> 02:53:29,000
 and without Mr. Zeng Qinghong's support,China won't proceed to where we are today as well.

3173
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:33,800
 is Saint or whoever is mighty,Ijust couldn't tell. But if you need me to decide whichever of them

3174
02:53:33,800 --> 02:53:38,100
As faraslam concerned,Elder Jiang at that time 

3175
02:53:38,800 --> 02:53:43,900
 was the one who wouldn't let people make politicalmilitaryandjudicial deals

3176
02:53:44,800 --> 02:53:48,200
vision and international standards.  including those who have international

3177
02:53:48,200 --> 02:53:51,400
 China's issues are either about Sino-US relations or economic problems

3178
02:53:51,400 --> 02:53:54,000
 The economy was good,and then the relationships of the PRC and the U.S.was greatly improved.

3179
02:53:54,000 --> 02:53:55,900
 China got a great leap

3180
02:53:55,900 --> 02:54:00,100
hates the government,which is not the focus of today And of course it includes those Falun Gong who 

3181
02:54:00,100 --> 02:54:02,600
Heis the paramount leader after all 

3182
02:54:02,600 --> 02:54:05,500
- one of the greatest politicians on earth. For Mr.Zeng Qinghong,I believe he is

3183
02:54:06,800 --> 02:54:11,900
are definitely one of the greatest politicians in history Definitely. General Secretary Jiang and Mr. Zeng Qinghong ·

3184
02:54:11,900 --> 02:54:15,500
 But during General Secretary Jiang's era,they almost arrested me

3185
02:54:15,500 --> 02:54:16,600
andI flew to the United States. 

3186
02:54:16,600 --> 02:54:20,800
 Zeng Qinghong and Zhu Rongji signed the order of arrest to catch me.

3187
02:54:22,000 --> 02:54:25,000
 If I have even the slightest relationship with themthey wouldn't even want me.

3188
02:54:25,000 --> 02:54:28,100
 Even for the PKU incident,the loan,which was from his son's bank.

3189
02:54:28,100 --> 02:54:29,900
 which is Shanghai Commercial &ampSavings Bank.

3190
02:54:29,900 --> 02:54:32,500
Fan Yifeiis one of his underlings; he's now the  vice president of the People's Bank of China.

3191
02:54:32,500 --> 02:54:37,000
They were trying to put dirt on me.If lam powerful would Ido those things they claimed that l have done? 

3192
02:54:37,100 --> 02:54:40,100
whole China belongs to Jiang's family 80% Moreover,80%of the power in the

3193
02:54:40,200 --> 02:54:45,500
 If you don't understand Chinese politics,then you don't deserve to understand politics in China.

3194
02:54:45,500 --> 02:54:50,500
I think he is the one who really has the power to make real decisions in China. 

3195
02:54:51,000 --> 02:54:53,000
Therefore,if I really had any connection with them 

3196
02:54:53,000 --> 02:54:57,200
wouldn't have been able to make it till today.  how could lhave ended up like thisI definitely

3197
02:54:57,800 --> 02:55:01,100
Mr.Xiaoping,I'd like to go to the washroom Please saya few words in the meantime. 

3198
02:55:02,500 --> 02:55:04,900
 Mr. Guois going to the bathroom.

3199
02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:07,400
Idrank four cups of waterI gotta go to the bathroom. 

3200
02:55:09,400 --> 02:55:14,200
 Rightwe're back again.That wasn't a hacker's attack

3201
02:55:14,200 --> 02:55:17,200
... Justnow,wewere..MrGuo.

3202
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:17,900
 G:Xiaoping's attack

3203
02:55:17,900 --> 02:55:20,100
 Mr.Guo youcan rest fora while

3204
02:55:20,100 --> 02:55:24,000
as our live broadcast has been on for three and a half hours. 

3205
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:25,500
 Has it

3206
02:55:25,500 --> 02:55:29,000
 You slipped away asl was trying to ask quite a crucial question

3207
02:55:29,000 --> 02:55:30,300
whichI'm going tocontinuenow. 

3208
02:55:30,300 --> 02:55:34,800
 We were talking about which person is actually behind you.

3209
02:55:34,800 --> 02:55:40,800
Zemin,Zeng Qinghong who support you at the back  As there are people who say that it was people like Jiang

3210
02:55:40,800 --> 02:55:41,800
 And you replied it

3211
02:55:41,800 --> 02:55:44,600
 you talked about the status that Mr.Jiang When you responded to the question

3212
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:49,700
and Mr. Zeng have on Chinese politics. 

3213
02:55:49,900 --> 02:55:52,100
You think they still have a great impact 

3214
02:55:52,200 --> 02:55:55,500
and then you left But you have to finish answering the question 

3215
02:55:55,500 --> 02:56:00,000
Why do you speak that highly of Mr.Jiang andMr.Zeng 

3216
02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:05,800
 You've even mentioned they ordered to catch you back then when they were in power.

3217
02:56:05,800 --> 02:56:07,100
Please finish the story 

3218
02:56:08,500 --> 02:56:12,600
So it has to do with my earliest boss 

3219
02:56:12,600 --> 02:56:15,600
 Rightas everyone knows,who is Ji Pengfei's son Ji Shengde

3220
02:56:16,600 --> 02:56:20,800
 Ji Shengde was the major general in charge of the military intelligence in the People's Liberation Army of China

3221
02:56:20,800 --> 02:56:21,400
 Yeah.

3222
02:56:21,400 --> 02:56:23,800
 lt was made by Mr.Zeng's order.

3223
02:56:23,800 --> 02:56:26,200
 And of course the actual person behind was this Xiong Guangkai

3224
02:56:26,200 --> 02:56:30,500
sentenced to death with a two-year reprieve  President Jiang Zemin had Ji arrested and

3225
02:56:30,500 --> 02:56:31,200
Thatis correct 

3226
02:56:31,200 --> 02:56:35,700
 Just because of this,there is no way that wewould be on the same side.

3227
02:56:35,700 --> 02:56:38,600
 lt's just like you can no longer be friends with someone

3228
02:56:38,600 --> 02:56:40,200
 who tried to arrest you

3229
02:56:41,000 --> 02:56:44,600
 That's one of the reasons, and the second reason is obvious.

3230
02:56:44,600 --> 02:56:47,200
developing businesses in He'nan, Guangdong lt happened at the period when lwas 

3231
02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:50,500
Hong Kong,and later in Beijing 

3232
02:56:50,500 --> 02:56:54,900
That was my darkest time,with no loans nor support 

3233
02:56:54,900 --> 02:56:58,000
1989 And in 1989,I spent the whole year in the U.S.

3234
02:56:58,000 --> 02:57:00,600
that was when Zhu Rongji signed the prosecution order 

3235
02:57:00,600 --> 02:57:04,700
 the one that the ex-president of the Philippines Joseph Estrada sent me a message about a Taiwanese

3236
02:57:04,700 --> 02:57:06,300
and amainlander who sue me together 

3237
02:57:06,300 --> 02:57:07,700
lwas at the airport when the order was given. 

3238
02:57:07,700 --> 02:57:10,000
 Others phoned me soljust quickly got out of the airport.

3239
02:57:10,000 --> 02:57:12,100
That was my worst period 

3240
02:57:12,100 --> 02:57:15,800
which was the era of the JiangZengand  Zhu.I couldn't develop my business at all

3241
02:57:15,800 --> 02:57:18,900
 But l've already had a few hundred millions of U.S.dollars for potential projects.

3242
02:57:18,900 --> 02:57:22,800
If l had have the power and resources lhad today 

3243
02:57:22,800 --> 02:57:26,800
1000 Iwouldnt have $100 billion onlyI would have a few trillion

3244
02:57:26,800 --> 02:57:31,600
89 It was too early in 1989 year, who have hundreds of millions of U.S.dollars right there

3245
02:57:31,700 --> 02:57:36,200
 linvested hundreds of millions of USD in a country and there was no any political support at that time

3246
02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:38,800
 Butl know Zeng's family

3247
02:57:39,100 --> 02:57:41,800
 Mr.Zeng's brother Zeng qing yuan

3248
02:57:41,800 --> 02:57:45,700
198687 I think we know each other in the year of 1986 or 1987

3249
02:57:45,700 --> 02:57:47,200
We have a good relationship 

3250
02:57:47,700 --> 02:57:51,600
andlknow Mr.Zeng's mother's old friend 

3251
02:57:51,800 --> 02:57:55,000
from Guangdong,even the Lee's family knows them 

3252
02:57:55,000 --> 02:58:02,300
I've even visited Mr. Zeng's mother's villa. 

3253
02:58:02,300 --> 02:58:04,500
It was the first timel visited itandIremembered it very clearly 

3254
02:58:04,500 --> 02:58:07,100
lasked the old lady what the Long March is.  And she asked me back what that even meant.

3255
02:58:07,100 --> 02:58:08,900
Isaid,What you've gone through in the Long  March,it was incredible andladmire you

3256
02:58:08,900 --> 02:58:10,900
 She replied,Stop the flatter. That was calledrun for your life

3257
02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:12,900
It's nothing like along march' That's my first impression of her 

3258
02:58:12,900 --> 02:58:16,300
Second,lasked her whetherthe  cohabitation of the Communist party is true

3259
02:58:16,300 --> 02:58:19,900
She said it had to be like this at the beginning  Andshe said,when you take down the landlord

3260
02:58:19,900 --> 02:58:23,800
 is propaganda,and then it became the norm. you get to sleep with the landlord's mistress. That

3261
02:58:23,800 --> 02:58:25,600
 The elders are always very realistic,

3262
02:58:25,600 --> 02:58:28,700
 and later on Iheard a lot about Mr. Zeng from her.

3263
02:58:28,800 --> 02:58:33,000
Soldon't have any relationship with his family.I don't even know his son. 

3264
02:58:33,000 --> 02:58:35,200
But lknowa lot of the people around him 

3265
02:58:35,200 --> 02:58:38,200
 Lots of my friends were promoted because of him.

3266
02:58:38,200 --> 02:58:40,600
That includes alot of people who are  currently working in the Central Government.

3267
02:58:40,600 --> 02:58:42,500
and they are also my friends. 

3268
02:58:42,500 --> 02:58:45,200
 Hence,I know this person is incredible, and heis a commander of politics.

3269
02:58:45,500 --> 02:58:49,800
 know how bad the Sino-U.S.relationship was back then AndIdon't have to talk much about Elder Jiang.We al

3270
02:58:49,800 --> 02:58:52,500
and he was the one who broke the ice and he fixed it. 

3271
02:58:52,500 --> 02:58:55,700
 Moreover, how hard it is to stop the people in the military and the public security law from doing business?

3272
02:58:55,700 --> 02:58:58,000
It wasa huge matter after the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. 

3273
02:58:58,000 --> 02:59:01,700
lam only talking about the good things he's done  here but lm not saying he's a saint without aflaw

3274
02:59:01,800 --> 02:59:04,300
 Of course he has his dark side;l'mjust going to talk about what I've observed.

3275
02:59:04,300 --> 02:59:07,100
There are a lot of people surround him 

3276
02:59:07,100 --> 02:59:09,800
 and most of them are my old mates.

3277
02:59:09,800 --> 02:59:13,400
They are my friends,and they have assisted him  for20to30 years,so l've heard a lot about him.

3278
02:59:13,400 --> 02:59:15,900
 Thus,from all the information that l've heard,Ican see that

3279
02:59:15,900 --> 02:59:19,400
taking the responsibility to the country  Elder Jiang and Elder Zeng have been

3280
02:59:19,400 --> 02:59:22,000
They have visions and international standards. 

3281
02:59:22,100 --> 02:59:24,500
 Andalot of my foreign friends

3282
02:59:24,500 --> 02:59:28,000
 speak highly of them after meeting them.

3283
02:59:28,000 --> 02:59:31,300
 They think that they are international politicians who have standards

3284
02:59:31,300 --> 02:59:33,300
 and they do things with principles.

3285
02:59:33,300 --> 02:59:36,400
Idon't care people say thatlam on the Jiang's or the Zeng's side. 

3286
02:59:36,400 --> 02:59:40,500
What's the matter if lam on their side or  not.Willthatinfluence my disclosure?

3287
02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:43,300
 What do my personal connections have todowiththeinformation I revealed

3288
02:59:43,700 --> 02:59:46,400
What do my personal connections have todowiththeinformationI disclosed? 

3289
02:59:46,400 --> 02:59:50,800
Therefore,who am l,whether I'm a thug. ajerk,a rapista murderer or whatever, 

3290
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:52,500
 has nothing to do with my disclosure.

3291
02:59:52,500 --> 02:59:54,900
traitors who have 20 trillion dollars 20 What you should focus on is the national

3292
02:59:54,900 --> 02:59:56,700
lt doesn't matter what relationship   have with officials. 

3293
02:59:56,700 --> 02:59:58,500
 Please don't be off topic again

3294
02:59:58,600 --> 03:00:00,400
questions asl still have more to ask..  we have to save the time for more

3295
03:00:00,400 --> 03:00:03,800
have the intention of trolling.Just kidding · So you have problem now.Ican see that you

3296
03:00:03,800 --> 03:00:07,600
there are lots of people who are quite concerned about it.  ljust want to ask what your political background is as

3297
03:00:07,600 --> 03:00:10,800
 So,during Hu Jintao's era,did you make a fortune?

3298
03:00:11,800 --> 03:00:13,600
 Whatis your relationship with Hu

3299
03:00:15,500 --> 03:00:19,800
I'm telling you this once again,and I'm serious about this 

3300
03:00:20,300 --> 03:00:26,100
The money that l earned for Chinais more than the money 

3301
03:00:26,100 --> 03:00:27,800
that lobtained from the country 

3302
03:00:27,825 --> 03:00:29,300
which I swear to god that it is true.

3303
03:00:29,300 --> 03:00:32,200
 All of my twitter friends can investigate it.

3304
03:00:32,200 --> 03:00:35,400
Iearned and gave much more money to China than 

3305
03:00:35,500 --> 03:00:37,400
Ihave taken from her 

3306
03:00:38,400 --> 03:00:40,000
 Ihope you'll all remember this forever.

3307
03:00:40,000 --> 03:00:45,600
So those nine companies that we talked about a couple of days ago saying you emptied the money in China.. 

3308
03:00:45,600 --> 03:00:50,800
relationship with them related with money overseas.. If he can obtain the evidence of me having 

3309
03:00:50,800 --> 03:00:53,600
 They said Ihad a luxurious lifestyle overseas.

3310
03:00:53,600 --> 03:00:55,500
 Forwhat Kevin Tung has said

3311
03:00:55,500 --> 03:00:58,300
 my lawyer said heis going to pay a huge price for his words

3312
03:00:58,300 --> 03:00:59,800
by making such a claim without any evidences. 

3313
03:01:01,400 --> 03:01:05,000
 So Mr.He Ping sent me a message telling me So why dolhave tomention about that person?

3314
03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:06,900
not to take down alawyer 

3315
03:01:06,900 --> 03:01:09,800
Isaid, You don't understand.Because he isn't a lawyer 

3316
03:01:09,800 --> 03:01:13,500
nation traitors Heis no longer a lawyer.  and he represents the evil and the

3317
03:01:13,500 --> 03:01:17,200
Therefore,I can't take him as a lawyer.  Willalawyer make such claims?

3318
03:01:17,200 --> 03:01:20,000
claiming that llike being involved in gang fights?  Can a lawyer spread rumors on Guo Wengui

3319
03:01:20,000 --> 03:01:21,900
 Does it even sound anything like words that a rich guy will say

3320
03:01:21,900 --> 03:01:23,100
 They are talking nonsense.

3321
03:01:23,100 --> 03:01:25,200
They're saying that lloved to be in gang fights whenIwasakid 

3322
03:01:25,200 --> 03:01:27,300
 andI challenged them to all go after me.

3323
03:01:27,300 --> 03:01:28,900
 CanIreally actually fight against them physically

3324
03:01:28,900 --> 03:01:31,400
 What on earth did a lawyer judge my characters for

3325
03:01:31,400 --> 03:01:34,800
 as his position has changed already This lawyer is no longer a lawyer himself

3326
03:01:34,800 --> 03:01:37,900
any comment on Mr.Guo Wengui's character'  As the professionals will sayI'm not going to make

3327
03:01:37,900 --> 03:01:40,800
 If my client pays me then I'lI have to handle their business. That's the norm.

3328
03:01:40,800 --> 03:01:42,100
 And of course l'm not going to go against my client.

3329
03:01:42,100 --> 03:01:48,200
 Hence,for these nine companies,what he saidisjustpure political threat and slanders

3330
03:01:48,600 --> 03:01:51,500
Let me tell you something.Forall the money I have within China 

3331
03:01:51,500 --> 03:01:55,200
was what the Special Investigation Team said 1200 let me repeatIestimated it to be 120 billion. That

3332
03:01:56,100 --> 03:01:59,400
Igot 120 billion,and they're still trying 1200 to accuse me of committing crime.

3333
03:01:59,400 --> 03:02:03,400
Look at this. They accused me of fraudulently obtaining a loan of 3.2 billion dollars,but l paid back 4.3 billion dollars. 3243

3334
03:02:03,400 --> 03:02:06,100
 meanswere processed with my own money And the purchase of foreign exchange with fraudulent

3335
03:02:06,300 --> 03:02:09,900
 and after that I've put ina few hundred millions of US dollar again

3336
03:02:09,900 --> 03:02:13,500
Ping An Bank's Shanghai branch sued us. 

3337
03:02:13,500 --> 03:02:16,300
 case thatis going to open the court session Moreover,what's very important is about the

3338
03:02:16,500 --> 03:02:18,700
 saying that l am involved in Zheng Jiepu's and Xie Jiansheng's incident

3339
03:02:18,700 --> 03:02:21,800
from the HTSC about thephysical encroachment  lt is going to be heard in court soon.

3340
03:02:21,800 --> 03:02:24,600
 But l'mjust an investor. What do these have to do with me

3341
03:02:24,800 --> 03:02:26,700
Ididnt take out a penny at all 1

3342
03:02:26,700 --> 03:02:30,000
Irestate that I didn't take a cent out from China to overseas. 1

3343
03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:31,600
 So,how dolmake money in China

3344
03:02:31,600 --> 03:02:37,300
 It is the Chinese government who printed lots of bank notes which pushed up the price of the real estates in China.

3345
03:02:37,300 --> 03:02:41,400
 Based on my ability and experience in investment

3346
03:02:41,400 --> 03:02:45,200
Idecided to buy twoprojects 

3347
03:02:45,200 --> 03:02:50,800
got an agreement to buy farmers' land  At that time,I didn't auction the land.l

3348
03:02:50,800 --> 03:02:52,200
Ibet on the Olympic Games. 

3349
03:02:52,300 --> 03:02:56,400
 Thenlput together a few of the projects.

3350
03:02:56,400 --> 03:02:59,000
 The more important thing is that

3351
03:02:59,000 --> 03:03:01,000
 lknow the country's political direction since lam quite wise

3352
03:03:01,000 --> 03:03:02,300
lbet on the Olympic Games, 

3353
03:03:02,300 --> 03:03:05,800
andlalso bet that China would follow this path after the 18th National Congress. 

3354
03:03:05,800 --> 03:03:08,600
 Then I made a lot of investments overseas.

3355
03:03:09,600 --> 03:03:11,900
 Basically all of them are successful now.

3356
03:03:11,900 --> 03:03:16,200
UBS30 the loss of the 3 billion U.S.dollars on UBS. Allof my investment are successful except

3357
03:03:16,200 --> 03:03:19,700
 This proves that l still have the ability to make money if Ileave china.

3358
03:03:19,700 --> 03:03:21,300
AndI'm not even bribing anyone for the success,I can make money. 

3359
03:03:21,300 --> 03:03:23,900
 So that shows that I can make money. The facts have proved this

3360
03:03:23,900 --> 03:03:27,300
Who else in China can be just like me who are so powerful in controlling money 

3361
03:03:28,600 --> 03:03:31,600
Idon't own a penny though,but lhave the right of decision-making of those trust funds. 

3362
03:03:31,600 --> 03:03:34,400
Ihave a lot of people who can provide me with the resources. 

3363
03:03:34,400 --> 03:03:36,600
 Andl won't even take a dime from China.

3364
03:03:36,600 --> 03:03:39,900
All of the entrepreneurs in China are pitiful, 

3365
03:03:39,900 --> 03:03:42,000
 as their hard work has never been secured.

3366
03:03:42,000 --> 03:03:44,700
It is illegal to transfer capital out of the country Their money is completely kidnapped by the country. 

3367
03:03:44,800 --> 03:03:48,000
 your life if you transfer money to overseas. What's more important is that it can even cost

3368
03:03:48,300 --> 03:03:51,700
lwon't take your money. So herel will reiterate two things 

3369
03:03:51,700 --> 03:03:54,200
Ihave never taken a dime out of my country 

3370
03:03:54,200 --> 03:03:56,800
 andIdidn't earn the money from Chinese. Thatis the truth

3371
03:03:56,800 --> 03:04:00,400
 Second,the money lmade within Chinawas originated from

3372
03:04:00,400 --> 03:04:03,000
the printing of notes in the eras of Hu and Wen. 

3373
03:04:03,000 --> 03:04:08,200
 estates, allowing me to start accumulating capital. The printing of notes had led to the surge of the real

3374
03:04:08,200 --> 03:04:12,900
 Then when lwas abroad,I made money in Chinese financial industry.

3375
03:04:12,900 --> 03:04:16,400
learned money when the financial sector was  at its peak,but lmade overseas investments.

3376
03:04:16,400 --> 03:04:19,200
Solam quite gifted on how to make money 

3377
03:04:19,600 --> 03:04:23,300
of politics.All these lead me to wherelam today and l'm fortunate to have a bit of wit on the understanding 

3378
03:04:23,700 --> 03:04:26,500
Then it has nothing to do with Hu Jintao personally 

3379
03:04:27,800 --> 03:04:30,100
 I'm just a commoner.I came from a farmer's family

3380
03:04:30,100 --> 03:04:31,800
Ithink you're hiding something 

3381
03:04:31,800 --> 03:04:34,800
It feels like you have a close relationship with Ling Jihua. 

3382
03:04:34,800 --> 03:04:36,600
I don't know him 

3383
03:04:36,600 --> 03:04:37,400
 You'renotrelatedtohim

3384
03:04:37,400 --> 03:04:40,100
 But l know a lot of people around him quite well.

3385
03:04:40,100 --> 03:04:43,600
Irecall you talking about that when you were talking about Huang Yan in your video 

3386
03:04:43,600 --> 03:04:47,000
You gave it to Director Ling,and he demanded you to give out the original tape 

3387
03:04:47,000 --> 03:04:49,200
Was that a face to face conversation? 

3388
03:04:49,200 --> 03:04:52,000
 This Director Ling's loveris my good friend.

3389
03:04:52,000 --> 03:04:54,500
 She is one of the lovers of Ling and she is particularly a close friend to me.

3390
03:04:54,500 --> 03:04:58,300
Therefore,I know what characteristics Ling has on his body  This close friend of mine always tells me things like this.

3391
03:04:58,500 --> 03:05:03,000
I'd always say that if we want to acquire information of the target, 

3392
03:05:03,000 --> 03:05:05,900
we will better send a female agent close to the target. 

3393
03:05:05,900 --> 03:05:06,400
 Isee.

3394
03:05:06,400 --> 03:05:12,000
Ididn't think about it at that time. Her girlfriend always told me such information like abortion and other things 

3395
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:14,300
It's because l've helped hera lot,and she's living overseas now. 

3396
03:05:14,300 --> 03:05:17,200
 about Director Ling was originated from her. So,most of the information that l obtained

3397
03:05:17,200 --> 03:05:20,000
Ididn't know him personally,though he  tried to meet me in person for a few times.

3398
03:05:20,300 --> 03:05:22,900
Like the car crash of the Ferrari.. 

3399
03:05:22,900 --> 03:05:24,800
 Who bought that carfor him

3400
03:05:24,800 --> 03:05:27,000
 It's the boss of Yinji from Henan bought for him.

3401
03:05:27,800 --> 03:05:29,800
 Nobody has ever said that out loud.I'm the first.

3402
03:05:29,800 --> 03:05:31,100
So the car was bought by Yinji in Henan.. 

3403
03:05:31,100 --> 03:05:36,600
The car was bought by the boss of Yinji in Henan for him asagift He's called Kang something. 

3404
03:05:36,600 --> 03:05:37,600
The one from Peking University 

3405
03:05:37,600 --> 03:05:43,300
hundreds of students to the PKU every year.  Wei Xin from Peking University PKU) sent

3406
03:05:43,800 --> 03:05:49,700
And one of them is Li's little mistress. They sent herto PKU to study 

3407
03:05:49,700 --> 03:05:54,500
And for the guy with the surname of Kang something his mistress was sent to the university as well. 

3408
03:05:54,500 --> 03:05:58,400
get in at first,but he made it at last.  And Director Ling's son,Ling Gudidn't

3409
03:05:58,400 --> 03:06:00,700
 And this Wei Xin just loves to bethewhite glove

3410
03:06:00,700 --> 03:06:02,600
He brought together those people for a meetup. 

3411
03:06:02,600 --> 03:06:06,400
 Wei Xin introduced them with the little kid who died in a car accident in Tibet too.

3412
03:06:06,400 --> 03:06:11,800
So this Wei Xin got this boss of Yinji to buy Ling Gua Ferrari 

3413
03:06:11,800 --> 03:06:14,200
then Ling Gu died in this Ferrari 

3414
03:06:15,300 --> 03:06:19,200
lam familiar with this girlfriend of Director Ling 

3415
03:06:19,200 --> 03:06:21,400
 and sheis familiar with all of the people Imentioned above

3416
03:06:21,400 --> 03:06:24,800
cars and organized this kind ofaccidents She told me that Wei Xin bought them 

3417
03:06:25,600 --> 03:06:31,000
 Ok,the questions on your relationship with Mr. Hu Jintao are done

3418
03:06:31,100 --> 03:06:34,800
 So you've just said that Jiang Zemin is still

3419
03:06:34,800 --> 03:06:41,300
one of the most powerful politicians in China's  politics. You've made a rough evaluation like that.

3420
03:06:41,700 --> 03:06:46,500
 So,howis his relationship with Xi? Do you think they are amicable

3421
03:06:46,500 --> 03:06:47,400
I don't know about that. 

3422
03:06:47,500 --> 03:06:48,300
 You donit know about this?

3423
03:06:48,400 --> 03:06:49,400
Idon't dare to say anything 

3424
03:06:50,200 --> 03:06:52,000
You're very cunning 

3425
03:06:52,500 --> 03:06:54,600
Sometimes we still need to talk a bit about politics 

3426
03:06:54,600 --> 03:06:57,300
Rightlet'stalk aboutpolitics 

3427
03:06:57,300 --> 03:07:00,400
he made a very good assessment on these matters  Those have all been covered by Mr. He Ping,and

3428
03:07:01,200 --> 03:07:05,400
As what Mr. He Ping said,it's very fine and itis the finest of all 

3429
03:07:06,200 --> 03:07:07,900
 You've repeatedly talked about

3430
03:07:07,900 --> 03:07:11,700
the current political situation in the previous 

3431
03:07:11,700 --> 03:07:14,600
interviews and the intense struggle 

3432
03:07:15,700 --> 03:07:17,200
 So you think

3433
03:07:17,400 --> 03:07:21,900
the new leader cannot influence the trial that is being heard in Dalian 

3434
03:07:22,900 --> 03:07:24,400
Do you think 

3435
03:07:24,400 --> 03:07:30,200
there are currently two forces in Beijing namelyEaglesandDoves 

3436
03:07:30,200 --> 03:07:34,200
 Do you think the two forces determine the tempoof your incident?

3437
03:07:35,300 --> 03:07:39,600
lknow your commentary programs always  refer to them as the Eagles and the Doves.

3438
03:07:39,600 --> 03:07:45,100
Ithink itis utterly incorrect. There is no  factions of eagles or doves in China.

3439
03:07:45,100 --> 03:07:47,600
 Those Eagles that you mentioned

3440
03:07:47,600 --> 03:07:50,400
 when they realize their profit might lie on the dove's side,they'll go to the dove side without a doubt.

3441
03:07:50,400 --> 03:07:53,500
the new leader represents the Dove party.  Can you give us an example Lets say

3442
03:07:53,500 --> 03:07:55,100
 No,the new leader shouldn t be just on one side.

3443
03:07:55,100 --> 03:07:57,500
He should be jumping around those doves and eagles. 

3444
03:07:57,600 --> 03:08:00,200
 This new leader is very realistic

3445
03:08:00,200 --> 03:08:03,200
He mingles with different sides. As faraslam concerned, there are two parties in Chinese political spectrums- 

3446
03:08:03,700 --> 03:08:07,200
old interest group 

3447
03:08:08,200 --> 03:08:12,200
 and new interest group who is in power.

3448
03:08:12,400 --> 03:08:14,800
 Don't group him into eagles and doves as that's way too noble.

3449
03:08:15,200 --> 03:08:19,500
 Forthis new leader, heis an intermediate and he can be on both sides.

3450
03:08:19,500 --> 03:08:20,700
 Hehas an international vision

3451
03:08:20,700 --> 03:08:22,800
 He has an international mindset because of his age.

3452
03:08:22,800 --> 03:08:26,600
 And he truly isa quick thinker

3453
03:08:26,600 --> 03:08:31,300
international prospectand he knows the law.  And he analyzes issues under an

3454
03:08:31,700 --> 03:08:36,200
 whichis the system that he is currently in But there is a great obstacle in front of him,

3455
03:08:36,200 --> 03:08:41,800
 Heis hindered by the old and the new vested interest groups.

3456
03:08:41,800 --> 03:08:44,400
 Therefore, he can't do much now,and his position is just for show.

3457
03:08:44,400 --> 03:08:47,200
It is impossible for him to immediately restore order to society 

3458
03:08:47,200 --> 03:08:50,000
So for our case in Dalian,itis hard to coordinate. 

3459
03:08:50,000 --> 03:08:52,100
lt is the same for the coordination of my Red Notice 

3460
03:08:52,100 --> 03:08:56,800
 and the transfer of my money back.lt proved aproblem.

3461
03:08:56,800 --> 03:09:01,000
Why People have to manipulate him. They don't and won't tell him the truth. 

3462
03:09:01,000 --> 03:09:02,200
They say to the new leader,'Look,new leader 

3463
03:09:02,200 --> 03:09:05,900
to reveal them soon. What canldowith that this Guo Wengui has my evidence and he is going 

3464
03:09:05,900 --> 03:09:08,300
He won't say things like this since heis patriotic 

3465
03:09:08,300 --> 03:09:10,300
 They would only say New leader,if you solve the red notice'issue of Guo Wengui

3466
03:09:10,300 --> 03:09:12,500
what if he hops to the U.S.side oneday 

3467
03:09:12,500 --> 03:09:15,000
 He will only get more and more money and he will turn his back on us.

3468
03:09:15,000 --> 03:09:19,100
Therefore,I suggest a solution-you control his employees' 

3469
03:09:19,100 --> 03:09:22,500
That's how all these old comrades' brains work.I threaten you 

3470
03:09:22,500 --> 03:09:25,300
willkill youassoonaslgot the chance.  Itake advantage of your mistakes,andi

3471
03:09:25,300 --> 03:09:29,200
 The new leader really canet do much about thatas his hands are somehow tied.

3472
03:09:29,200 --> 03:09:33,200
 to use the new leader to make me go away And now,the new vested interest group wants

3473
03:09:33,200 --> 03:09:36,200
like,we gotta keep our eyes on Guo Wengui And for the old vested interest group,they were 

3474
03:09:36,200 --> 03:09:37,500
 We have to stop him from disclosing our secrets'

3475
03:09:37,700 --> 03:09:40,100
 So,there is no such thing as the Eagle or the Dove.

3476
03:09:40,100 --> 03:09:43,000
 There is only your profit and mine.

3477
03:09:43,000 --> 03:09:44,900
 So this is a conflict of interests

3478
03:09:44,900 --> 03:09:49,800
 Although his position and role do not quite matched

3479
03:09:49,800 --> 03:09:53,500
for his intelligence and standard,including his understanding to law 

3480
03:09:53,500 --> 03:09:55,100
I think he is the hope of China. 

3481
03:09:55,100 --> 03:09:59,600
I trust him fully and have expectations on him. 

3482
03:09:59,600 --> 03:10:04,000
 will not wait for such a long time anymore But that will not bea problem,becausel

3483
03:10:04,200 --> 03:10:07,000
 EverythingIsaid everything has just started.

3484
03:10:07,000 --> 03:10:08,300
It won't be long 

3485
03:10:08,300 --> 03:10:09,700
What does it mean byit won't be long 

3486
03:10:09,700 --> 03:10:13,800
3880% in my previous interview with you on 8th March. You just extracted 80%of the information released

3487
03:10:13,800 --> 03:10:16,900
At that time you said you were waiting for hope and fantasy Isn't it 

3488
03:10:16,900 --> 03:10:17,400
 Yes.

3489
03:10:17,400 --> 03:10:20,300
The senior leader told you not to fantasize.  However,you have never given upsince

3490
03:10:20,300 --> 03:10:24,200
3838616 8th of March and have waited until today16th of June.

3491
03:10:24,200 --> 03:10:26,400
The information about Fu Zhenghua is still there 

3492
03:10:26,400 --> 03:10:29,000
 You have been having illusions again and againright

3493
03:10:29,000 --> 03:10:29,600
 Yeah

3494
03:10:29,600 --> 03:10:32,400
 you had illusions.Iwas the one who said that. Therefore,itis not the senior leader who said

3495
03:10:32,400 --> 03:10:33,500
It wasa fantasy 

3496
03:10:33,500 --> 03:10:37,700
So, you have started to have this feeling to this new leader. 

3497
03:10:37,700 --> 03:10:41,900
Then you procrastinated this issue fora month until July 17 717

3498
03:10:42,000 --> 03:10:42,600
right 

3499
03:10:42,600 --> 03:10:43,100
 Yes.

3500
03:10:43,100 --> 03:10:43,700
 Havelheard itright

3501
03:10:43,700 --> 03:10:44,300
 Yes.

3502
03:10:44,400 --> 03:10:48,400
So,you have new feelings regarding this. 

3503
03:10:48,400 --> 03:10:55,800
However,I don't think this new leader is really  helping youtotackle theproblemso far.

3504
03:10:55,800 --> 03:10:58,000
How are you going to answer this question? 

3505
03:10:59,200 --> 03:11:03,100
... Well...lhad something to say at the beginning of the show.

3506
03:11:03,100 --> 03:11:07,500
before lattended your show today Ican tell you now.lhad afew considerations ·

3507
03:11:08,200 --> 03:11:10,500
 The phone kept ringing.I know. The phone line has been very busy.

3508
03:11:10,500 --> 03:11:14,800
 Yes.I slept for no more than three hours

3509
03:11:14,800 --> 03:11:15,900
Yin total in these two days 

3510
03:11:16,400 --> 03:11:19,700
First,Ineed to put my employees into  consideration. The reason is very simple.

3511
03:11:19,700 --> 03:11:21,900
Most of my family members have been released already. Only two to three members are still in there 

3512
03:11:21,900 --> 03:11:25,100
My employees and my family are at the edge of breakdown 

3513
03:11:25,100 --> 03:11:27,200
Ihave to consider their feelings as well 

3514
03:11:27,200 --> 03:11:29,500
 Forwhat lam doing right now,I can't be so selfish

3515
03:11:29,500 --> 03:11:31,300
 that ljust ignore them when my wife and children arehere.

3516
03:11:31,300 --> 03:11:36,900
First,if l have to choose among my employees,my justice,ideal and disclosure, 

3517
03:11:36,900 --> 03:11:39,400
-would definitely prioritize myemployees 

3518
03:11:39,400 --> 03:11:42,900
Second,Ihave to consider this new leader 

3519
03:11:42,900 --> 03:11:47,500
 who created all the conditions for me. He is really helping me.

3520
03:11:47,500 --> 03:11:48,100
ls he 

3521
03:11:48,100 --> 03:11:50,200
 Yes,he is. He's absolutely helping me.

3522
03:11:50,200 --> 03:11:53,200
 His former senior leader also helped me.

3523
03:11:53,300 --> 03:11:56,500
 that the senior leader didn't wantto help This new leader does help me. lt's not because

3524
03:11:56,500 --> 03:11:59,800
or made mistakes  lt is because his rights were limited. 

3525
03:11:59,800 --> 03:12:01,200
and he was battling with other interest groups 

3526
03:12:01,200 --> 03:12:04,200
 The new leader did help me a lot.

3527
03:12:04,200 --> 03:12:05,800
 So whatis the problem right now

3528
03:12:05,800 --> 03:12:09,300
How canlstrike a balance between dealing  withthis new leader and disclosure?

3529
03:12:09,300 --> 03:12:11,900
-want to give him the time to work forme 

3530
03:12:11,900 --> 03:12:15,500
so that the two interest groups can accept him.This is the second consideration. 

3531
03:12:15,500 --> 03:12:17,400
 Now the third problem is terrible.

3532
03:12:17,500 --> 03:12:21,400
 ltis about Twitter's friends who are watching my show now

3533
03:12:23,400 --> 03:12:25,600
All my Twitter's friends are great. 

3534
03:12:25,600 --> 03:12:27,200
 They are definitely not brainless or whatever.

3535
03:12:27,200 --> 03:12:32,000
These people trust me. They are now listening to me. 

3536
03:12:32,000 --> 03:12:34,800
 Perhaps,hundreds of millions of Chinese are watching me.

3537
03:12:34,800 --> 03:12:36,600
lam thinking whetherl should disclose any information. 

3538
03:12:36,600 --> 03:12:39,100
Ididnt disclose information because of the new leader 

3539
03:12:39,100 --> 03:12:42,100
 my employees and my family

3540
03:12:42,100 --> 03:12:45,000
 Iam not saying this is lying but l let them down.

3541
03:12:45,000 --> 03:12:46,700
 On the contrary

3542
03:12:46,700 --> 03:12:50,500
Ihave to consider the extent of the disclosure without sacrificing the new leader. 

3543
03:12:50,500 --> 03:12:52,300
Moreover, for the third episode of Ming Jing 

3544
03:12:52,300 --> 03:12:56,200
season. We have mentioned this at the beginning  we decided to have 7 episodes for the first

3545
03:12:56,200 --> 03:13:00,000
 People have been asking for the third episode in a couple of months

3546
03:13:00,000 --> 03:13:02,700
 This matter will not become serious anymore if we do not appear in this show

3547
03:13:02,700 --> 03:13:05,000
lt will be irresponsible to Ming Jing and me 

3548
03:13:05,000 --> 03:13:08,500
concerned about the third episode of Ming Jing  There is one more thing For those who are

3549
03:13:09,000 --> 03:13:10,200
 we haven't had an explanation to them.

3550
03:13:10,200 --> 03:13:12,600
Thus,I have to be responsible to you Ming Jing 

3551
03:13:12,600 --> 03:13:15,300
 The last consideration is terrible.Very terrible.

3552
03:13:15,300 --> 03:13:17,600
My employees are still under interrogation 

3553
03:13:17,600 --> 03:13:20,600
 They are still on trial in there and their families as well.

3554
03:13:20,600 --> 03:13:23,400
 Howwill their families look upon me as their boss?

3555
03:13:23,400 --> 03:13:25,100
 Your families are fine now.

3556
03:13:25,100 --> 03:13:27,600
 Then you just treated us like this. Shouldn't they blame this on me?

3557
03:13:27,600 --> 03:13:30,000
So after l evaluate the whole issuet 

3558
03:13:30,000 --> 03:13:33,900
 eventually Ineed to consider the timing of disclosing information.

3559
03:13:33,900 --> 03:13:36,900
lalways plan ahead before the disclosures,  however,I have nothing to disclose noW,

3560
03:13:36,900 --> 03:13:38,800
including the 80%and 20% that you mentioned before 80%20%

3561
03:13:38,800 --> 03:13:42,700
 Although it is delayed,we will attain the purpose at last.

3562
03:13:42,700 --> 03:13:44,400
 Just like Boxun,I don't disclose its information now.

3563
03:13:44,400 --> 03:13:45,800
 However,I will still tell you its information in the end

3564
03:13:45,800 --> 03:13:48,900
including Mr.Wu Zheng who you mentioned before. Evenl don't disclose the information 

3565
03:13:48,900 --> 03:13:50,000
 You will know it in future,right

3566
03:13:50,800 --> 03:13:53,800
Iwill achieve my goal. Nowl think the information I disclosed today 

3567
03:13:53,800 --> 03:13:55,200
have shown my respect to the new leader. 

3568
03:13:55,200 --> 03:13:58,800
If he cannot give me an explanation or bear it 

3569
03:13:59,000 --> 03:14:00,400
let's see what will happen. 

3570
03:14:01,100 --> 03:14:04,000
lam giving him a chance to confess to the leaders and the new comers. 

3571
03:14:04,000 --> 03:14:05,600
 You see l have promised to Guo Wengui

3572
03:14:05,600 --> 03:14:07,300
 If you can't,I can't do anything about it.

3573
03:14:07,300 --> 03:14:10,600
 You should find another new leader andlwill keep on disclosing information.

3574
03:14:10,600 --> 03:14:12,900
 This disclosure would have another purpose

3575
03:14:12,900 --> 03:14:15,400
 that Guo Wenguiis forced to disclose information.

3576
03:14:15,400 --> 03:14:17,100
Ihavent lost my morality and justice. 

3577
03:14:18,200 --> 03:14:22,200
I haven't lost the basic principle of being a civilian in this country 

3578
03:14:22,200 --> 03:14:24,700
Hence,I think this disclosure is within my control. 

3579
03:14:24,800 --> 03:14:26,000
 lt is what lexpected.

3580
03:14:26,000 --> 03:14:29,300
I think it has been doing wellso far. 

3581
03:14:30,200 --> 03:14:32,900
 Ok,Iunderstand what you just said

3582
03:14:32,900 --> 03:14:34,100
 Imagination need to exist

3583
03:14:34,100 --> 03:14:34,800
 Yes

3584
03:14:34,800 --> 03:14:35,600
But it will not always exist 

3585
03:14:35,600 --> 03:14:37,800
When the trial of Pangu's case started 

3586
03:14:37,900 --> 03:14:40,000
 l interviewed you once.

3587
03:14:40,000 --> 03:14:42,500
some arrangements for your employees Later you explained that you had made 

3588
03:14:42,500 --> 03:14:44,500
 which lunderstood it very well.

3589
03:14:44,500 --> 03:14:50,800
Ican feel your affection for your employees 

3590
03:14:51,500 --> 03:14:52,200
whichis very deep and precious 

3591
03:14:52,200 --> 03:14:55,700
 Do you think I can survive till now if l give up my employees as well

3592
03:14:55,800 --> 03:14:59,200
 Yes.Ifeel that

3593
03:14:59,200 --> 03:15:01,100
you have a very deep affection for them. 

3594
03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:05,700
 Itotally understand why you have fought for them repeatedly

3595
03:15:05,700 --> 03:15:08,900
 However,I still have some questions for you.

3596
03:15:10,300 --> 03:15:11,000
 Yes,please.

3597
03:15:11,000 --> 03:15:14,000
Ihave another question 

3598
03:15:16,100 --> 03:15:21,400
lt seems that you and the Beijing government are testing each other 

3599
03:15:21,400 --> 03:15:24,500
information If you disclose lots of information  They take a step back when you disclose some

3600
03:15:24,500 --> 03:15:27,700
they will take you seriously and then stepback. 

3601
03:15:27,700 --> 03:15:33,200
 take you seriously at the very beginning and Is it true that the Beijing government didn't

3602
03:15:33,200 --> 03:15:37,300
 ignored you and after you disclosed some more information

3603
03:15:37,300 --> 03:15:38,700
then they started to take you seriously 

3604
03:15:38,700 --> 03:15:42,900
Let's say if you don't disclose information They are testing you. lt can't be like that. 

3605
03:15:43,000 --> 03:15:45,000
 they will not pay attention to you.ls this the consequence?

3606
03:15:45,000 --> 03:15:47,800
 Hence when you disclose more,they will pay more attention to you.

3607
03:15:47,800 --> 03:15:50,200
 One daymy friends andIwere havingameal.

3608
03:15:50,200 --> 03:15:51,100
 One of them told mean example.

3609
03:15:51,100 --> 03:15:53,100
 Guo Wengui has to disclose the information continuously

3610
03:15:53,100 --> 03:15:57,000
continuously so it will notfall down  lt is like a bicycle that you need to ride

3611
03:15:57,000 --> 03:16:00,900
 Soyou are a bicycle thatis heading straight now.

3612
03:16:00,900 --> 03:16:02,600
 This bicycle will be able to turn thewheel

3613
03:16:02,600 --> 03:16:06,000
 but once you stop it,it willfall down.

3614
03:16:07,400 --> 03:16:10,400
 Howdoyou interpretthisstory?

3615
03:16:11,500 --> 03:16:13,500
After hearing what you and your friend said 

3616
03:16:13,500 --> 03:16:17,500
it sounds reasonable. However,itis actually a fallacy 

3617
03:16:19,400 --> 03:16:23,300
 All the governments are worried about my disclosure and whether l have information.

3618
03:16:23,300 --> 03:16:24,500
He has two questions. 

3619
03:16:24,500 --> 03:16:28,300
because for the hunt of the past three years  He definitely knows lhave information  It is

3620
03:16:28,300 --> 03:16:31,300
he has information and wants to revenge. 

3621
03:16:31,300 --> 03:16:34,800
Heis worried that l will have the 18 videos of Meng Huiqing 18

3622
03:16:34,800 --> 03:16:37,900
18 Heis worried that l would get hold of the 18 years of investigation

3623
03:16:37,900 --> 03:16:39,500
 regarding the anti-corruption of Vice Minister Ma Jian.

3624
03:16:39,500 --> 03:16:44,800
with the foreign power and go against them  They are worried that I would be in alliance

3625
03:16:44,800 --> 03:16:49,200
·2015110 so they caught my family members three years ago. lt was on 10th January 2015.

3626
03:16:49,200 --> 03:16:54,400
 They controlled thousands of my employees and took away all of my family members.

3627
03:16:54,400 --> 03:16:56,000
 Apart from my father and motherthey caught almost all of us

3628
03:16:56,000 --> 03:17:00,600
They caught my fifth and sixth brother as well 

3629
03:17:01,600 --> 03:17:05,400
 and all the assets were sealed off. My whole family was almost half dead

3630
03:17:05,400 --> 03:17:08,800
This was a catastrophe. 

3631
03:17:08,800 --> 03:17:12,300
 They also wanted to kill all overseas

3632
03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:14,800
partners and destroyed your reputation. 

3633
03:17:14,975 --> 03:17:16,350
they definitely knew that I have their secrets.

3634
03:17:16,400 --> 03:17:17,200
 Of course they knew

3635
03:17:17,300 --> 03:17:21,100
Ihave their secrets which are very horrible but with uncertainty 

3636
03:17:21,100 --> 03:17:25,300
They tortured me for 3 years lt is because lhave  their secrets and there is hatred between us.

3637
03:17:25,300 --> 03:17:26,400
ThenIstartto think.. 

3638
03:17:26,400 --> 03:17:27,800
What does it mean byuncertainty 

3639
03:17:27,800 --> 03:17:30,500
 That means they don't know the extent of influence of these secrets

3640
03:17:30,500 --> 03:17:33,600
 although l know which areas would be affected.

3641
03:17:33,600 --> 03:17:36,500
They don't even know what's inside the 18 videos of Meng Huiqing 18

3642
03:17:36,500 --> 03:17:37,200
 No,they know it

3643
03:17:37,200 --> 03:17:38,000
 Do they

3644
03:17:38,000 --> 03:17:38,600
Absolutely. 

3645
03:17:38,600 --> 03:17:40,800
18 Do they know that you have these 18 videos?

3646
03:17:40,800 --> 03:17:45,000
Heis not sure whether l got the 18 videos. Just like the gangsters 

3647
03:17:45,000 --> 03:17:49,500
they come to rob your house and kill every one,which is better than missing any of them. 

3648
03:17:49,500 --> 03:17:53,000
18 videos. These 18 videos are fatal for him They don't care whether I have got the 18

3649
03:17:53,000 --> 03:17:54,200
 so he has to destroy me.

3650
03:17:54,200 --> 03:17:59,900
We have mentioned a story in the second episode, which was about the fire at the house of Ma Jian. 

3651
03:18:01,300 --> 03:18:05,500
18 Fu Zhenghua went there. They came for these 18 videos as well.

3652
03:18:05,875 --> 03:18:07,875
I think he aimed at the parking garage of Vice Minister Ma Jian's flat,

3653
03:18:08,200 --> 03:18:11,100
because that garage was quite big 

3654
03:18:11,100 --> 03:18:12,700
 He thoughtall the money

3655
03:18:12,700 --> 03:18:16,200
 evidence and information were in his home

3656
03:18:16,200 --> 03:18:16,700
It had nothing to do with this. 

3657
03:18:16,700 --> 03:18:18,100
 Itwas Fu Zhenghua who started the fire

3658
03:18:18,100 --> 03:18:19,900
 while the Vice Minister Ma went to work in Dalian.

3659
03:18:19,900 --> 03:18:20,900
 Hewason theplane

3660
03:18:21,200 --> 03:18:24,800
then his wife asked one of our employees for help. 

3661
03:18:24,800 --> 03:18:27,500
 He arrived Dalian and called me. He said he found Fu.

3662
03:18:27,500 --> 03:18:28,300
lsaid you were in trouble. 

3663
03:18:28,300 --> 03:18:29,400
 There was nothing in there

3664
03:18:29,400 --> 03:18:32,000
 butalot of clothes and furniture were burnt and destroyed.

3665
03:18:32,000 --> 03:18:34,200
 This is the concept.Iremember l just told you that

3666
03:18:34,600 --> 03:18:39,700
Later they got in touch with me through the leader of the Middle East's countries. 

3667
03:18:39,700 --> 03:18:42,200
When I started to communicate with this old leader 

3668
03:18:42,200 --> 03:18:44,400
 he was unsure whether I had the secrets and

3669
03:18:45,000 --> 03:18:46,600
whether Ihad the information 

3670
03:18:47,200 --> 03:18:49,800
 This is the first thing. Secondyou cannot be cocky in these three years

3671
03:18:49,800 --> 03:18:50,500
 Heis testing you.

3672
03:18:50,600 --> 03:18:53,800
 You are also nothing. Andlama kind man.

3673
03:18:53,800 --> 03:18:57,800
so he wanted to trick me back to China  He thought you had nothing to toss abou

3674
03:18:57,800 --> 03:18:59,600
He used all the tricks to escort me back. 

3675
03:18:59,600 --> 03:19:03,400
At that time, he talked to me about two things He asked me not to say anything but came back. 

3676
03:19:03,400 --> 03:19:07,200
back.He gave meall kinds of promises Hepromised mel would be safeifIcame 

3677
03:19:07,200 --> 03:19:10,600
It's that kind of promises. Look,itis just like Master Zhao Benshan talking Xiaopin comedy) 

3678
03:19:10,600 --> 03:19:12,200
 lying to you in real.

3679
03:19:12,200 --> 03:19:15,700
 Don't worry. We will tell you the policy of the party.Come back.You willbefine!

3680
03:19:15,700 --> 03:19:17,200
 You can see that all of that is nonsense now.

3681
03:19:17,500 --> 03:19:19,000
They just wanted to trick you back. Thisis the first thing 

3682
03:19:19,000 --> 03:19:22,300
Second,he would look for opportunity to kill youoreven poison you to death. 

3683
03:19:22,400 --> 03:19:24,300
This is the purpose of the meeting. 

3684
03:19:24,300 --> 03:19:29,000
 Then I told himl was going to disclose information,really

3685
03:19:29,000 --> 03:19:31,600
He doubted it when lsaid so.He didn't expect that. 

3686
03:19:31,600 --> 03:19:34,400
 'So what That Ming Jing is nothing

3687
03:19:34,400 --> 03:19:37,800
Ming Jing is bullshit 'This is what he said 

3688
03:19:37,800 --> 03:19:42,800
lt turned out Ming Jing is not nothing.Icanshow you that 

3689
03:19:42,800 --> 03:19:45,100
 Laterthey discovered its influence.

3690
03:19:45,300 --> 03:19:48,500
 So,they started to persuade me not tomake the second episode.

3691
03:19:48,500 --> 03:19:52,700
 Isaid you need to release my employee and his daughter.

3692
03:19:52,800 --> 03:19:55,700
 He said fine. He released the daughter in the first episode

3693
03:19:55,700 --> 03:19:57,000
and then he was supposed to release my fourth and sixth brothers in the second episode. 

3694
03:19:57,000 --> 03:20:00,400
 He refused. Solsaid to himl would make the second episode.Again,he refused to release my brothers

3695
03:20:00,600 --> 03:20:02,900
Then they discovered the power of MingJing 

3696
03:20:02,900 --> 03:20:06,500
Wengui cooperates with Ming Jing  So they wanted to get rid of it.If Guo

3697
03:20:06,500 --> 03:20:07,700
 then they would eliminate it.

3698
03:20:07,700 --> 03:20:12,100
power,they hacked Ming Jing every day  Because of the arrogance of their

3699
03:20:12,100 --> 03:20:15,300
VOA However,he didn't think thatl would distract him with VOA

3700
03:20:15,600 --> 03:20:18,600
VOA the VOA was involved. He was terrified. The network was disconnected after

3701
03:20:18,600 --> 03:20:19,900
You caused him great harm 

3702
03:20:20,300 --> 03:20:23,900
Then it came to the Red Notice which was  thestupidest decision he has evermade.

3703
03:20:23,900 --> 03:20:26,700
VOA aroused awareness from all over the world The Red Notice and the disconnection of VOA

3704
03:20:26,700 --> 03:20:28,900
It proved that Guo Wengui is influential 

3705
03:20:28,900 --> 03:20:30,500
 If lam nothingwhy are you so scared?

3706
03:20:30,500 --> 03:20:34,100
 This time,his actions made me a self-media.

3707
03:20:34,100 --> 03:20:37,200
Mr. He Ping of Mingjing was terrified.He was scared to make the third episode. 

3708
03:20:37,200 --> 03:20:38,700
 Then I make the third episode by myself

3709
03:20:38,700 --> 03:20:40,800
 Who said that no one dared to make the third episode?

3710
03:20:40,800 --> 03:20:41,200
Tam just kidding 

3711
03:20:41,200 --> 03:20:42,100
 Don't make rumors.

3712
03:20:42,700 --> 03:20:46,000
57 Thisis the 57th office. Don't bully me.

3713
03:20:46,300 --> 03:20:49,800
 This is why l involve in the self-media in this situation.

3714
03:20:49,800 --> 03:20:52,600
become an instant online celebrity He did not think that Guo Wengui can 

3715
03:20:52,600 --> 03:20:56,300
Then he started to hackmy Twitter  He didn't think you can do it as well.

3716
03:20:56,300 --> 03:20:58,600
YouTube He also didn't think thatlcan do well in YouTube.

3717
03:20:58,800 --> 03:21:00,800
I will reveal lots of things in the future.

3718
03:21:01,700 --> 03:21:03,700
 They just think itis notpossible forme.

3719
03:21:03,700 --> 03:21:06,100
YouTube They think I'm crazy doing live broadcast on YouTube.

3720
03:21:06,350 --> 03:21:08,350
There is noly a few thousands of viewers. Who are going to watch it?

3721
03:21:09,200 --> 03:21:11,800
 Whatis so special about your Twitter

3722
03:21:11,800 --> 03:21:13,800
There is nothing special about it.  That's just tens of thousands of followers.

3723
03:21:13,800 --> 03:21:16,000
 So they used upall the weapons.

3724
03:21:16,200 --> 03:21:22,800
 The Red Notice makes it difficult for him to retreat and proceed.

3725
03:21:22,800 --> 03:21:24,000
This is adisaster

3726
03:21:24,000 --> 03:21:29,100
VOA VOA used the power of silence to expose their intelligence network overseas.

3727
03:21:29,100 --> 03:21:33,200
 Also,it severely interferes with the business operation and freedom of media in America.

3728
03:21:33,200 --> 03:21:35,000
 It also leaves undesirable consequences

3729
03:21:35,000 --> 03:21:38,700
 Finallythey came to talk to me.The old leader came.

3730
03:21:38,800 --> 03:21:41,000
 This major incidence has something to do with the insiders

3731
03:21:41,000 --> 03:21:44,000
 So from here,you cansee that we have been forced to here.

3732
03:21:44,000 --> 03:21:45,500
 Now he believes that l am something

3733
03:21:45,500 --> 03:21:49,200
of things you don't know actuallyMr. Xiaoping  The information is released now.There are lots

3734
03:21:49,200 --> 03:21:57,000
of the Standing Committee to quit his job.  Any paper from just now can make a member

3735
03:21:57,000 --> 03:22:00,200
if you investigated the case seriously With the messages that l have just said, 

3736
03:22:00,200 --> 03:22:02,000
 someone will be caught according to the discipline of the party

3737
03:22:02,400 --> 03:22:03,600
 So he does not investigate

3738
03:22:03,600 --> 03:22:04,400
No,he doesn't 

3739
03:22:04,400 --> 03:22:05,500
It is the same as Panama's document. 

3740
03:22:05,500 --> 03:22:07,800
 It's the same.I tell you. This time is different

3741
03:22:08,000 --> 03:22:09,600
Even if he didn't investigate,people  all over the world would look into it.

3742
03:22:09,700 --> 03:22:11,500
 These money is illegal in foreign countries.

3743
03:22:12,200 --> 03:22:15,800
You didn't ask me a question If he doesn't investigate the money 

3744
03:22:15,800 --> 03:22:17,000
Iwill let the American government to do so. 

3745
03:22:17,500 --> 03:22:20,300
Iwill let them investigate it based on the act of Magnitsky 

3746
03:22:20,400 --> 03:22:21,200
Magnitsky 

3747
03:22:21,400 --> 03:22:28,900
This is the English of Lawyer Tung  Magnitsky This is the English of whom

3748
03:22:28,900 --> 03:22:32,500
Ifeel uncomfortable when I listen to him talking in English 

3749
03:22:32,500 --> 03:22:35,000
working.Speaking of the Voice of America..  Iwill forget about it very soon. My brainis not

3750
03:22:35,000 --> 03:22:38,500
About the issue of VOA,according to the latest news Ireceived yesterday 

3751
03:22:38,500 --> 03:22:43,500
of Representatives had to pass through something the United States Senate and the United States House 

3752
03:22:43,500 --> 03:22:45,600
 In the upcoming weeks

3753
03:22:45,600 --> 03:22:48,300
 of State will have to investigate this issue. Director Shen of the United States Department

3754
03:22:48,300 --> 03:22:51,500
 There's progress of this issue.

3755
03:22:51,500 --> 03:22:53,000
 This day will come eventually

3756
03:22:53,000 --> 03:22:56,400
For the United States Department of State,there 70 were 70 senators who signed jointly earlier

3757
03:22:56,400 --> 03:22:59,300
 to hold a hearing However,the premise is thatImust be there.

3758
03:22:59,300 --> 03:23:03,300
Irejected because l attempted to  show my respecttothesenior leader.

3759
03:23:03,500 --> 03:23:06,600
 Next,it is the United States.

3760
03:23:06,600 --> 03:23:08,300
 You see,the United States Department of State,

3761
03:23:08,300 --> 03:23:11,200
 the Senate and the House of Representatives as well as the Parliament have fully interfered.

3762
03:23:11,200 --> 03:23:14,500
 The dayl speak out willbe the day of complete change. Don'tworry

3763
03:23:14,500 --> 03:23:16,900
Ineed to stand upand talk sometimes. 

3764
03:23:17,500 --> 03:23:18,500
On the contrary 

3765
03:23:18,500 --> 03:23:21,900
VOA he finally realized that I have influence after this VOA's issue.

3766
03:23:21,900 --> 03:23:24,500
 Not only have they found out thatlam influencialwhat have they also discovered?

3767
03:23:24,500 --> 03:23:27,200
 When we investigate the banks

3768
03:23:27,200 --> 03:23:29,200
 the banks will reveal some information

3769
03:23:29,200 --> 03:23:32,500
to the government. Those institutions who investigate the banks are not illegal 

3770
03:23:32,500 --> 03:23:34,700
 to examine your bank details.

3771
03:23:34,700 --> 03:23:38,000
 Hence,manypeople will not inform the Chinese central government

3772
03:23:38,000 --> 03:23:41,000
 that Guo Wengui investigated the information of my home. Who dares to say that

3773
03:23:41,000 --> 03:23:43,100
 But he has to find another reason

3774
03:23:43,100 --> 03:23:46,400
that Guo Wengui needs to be dealt with.lt is a threatto you. 

3775
03:23:47,000 --> 03:23:49,500
of the party always like to play this trick.  lunderstand well about this. The high officials

3776
03:23:49,500 --> 03:23:51,600
 That's the trick used by the nosy women in villages.

3777
03:23:51,600 --> 03:23:53,800
 That's the trick they like the most.

3778
03:23:53,800 --> 03:23:55,100
You see,Mr. Xiaoping 

3779
03:23:55,200 --> 03:23:59,000
fact,lattempted to expose the information of He Ping  Guo Wengui was going to expose your secrets. In

3780
03:23:59,000 --> 03:24:01,000
Mr. He Ping would come to find you, Xiao Ping 

3781
03:24:01,000 --> 03:24:03,000
 Guo Wengui has my information.

3782
03:24:03,000 --> 03:24:06,600
In fact,He Ping was afraid that his news will be exposed 

3783
03:24:06,600 --> 03:24:08,100
 youneed to keep his mouth shut. so Xiao Ping you have the rights and

3784
03:24:08,100 --> 03:24:08,900
 You need to stop him from live broadcast.

3785
03:24:09,000 --> 03:24:12,600
They are using each other now. None of them confesses that they have the information 

3786
03:24:12,600 --> 03:24:13,900
However,he would just tell the other party that 

3787
03:24:13,900 --> 03:24:17,200
you are being investigated and these  people are forming an alliance to attack me.

3788
03:24:17,200 --> 03:24:21,900
 Actually itis very stupid.For the information that Guo Wengui has

3789
03:24:21,900 --> 03:24:24,500
do you think the problem can be solved by killing him 

3790
03:24:25,000 --> 03:24:27,500
Ina world like this,in a technological society like this 

3791
03:24:27,500 --> 03:24:29,300
do you actually think that the problem can be solved in this way 

3792
03:24:29,300 --> 03:24:33,700
 The only way to solve the problem is to sit down and talk to me Guo Wenguisincerely

3793
03:24:33,700 --> 03:24:37,700
instead of the way we are talking now,trying to kill me 

3794
03:24:37,700 --> 03:24:40,200
and torture my employees when we are talking. 

3795
03:24:40,200 --> 03:24:43,700
 When we are talking you keep spending money to sue me.

3796
03:24:43,700 --> 03:24:49,200
the money to sue me. You are such a shame Don't you feel ashamed Hu Shuliyou spent 

3797
03:24:49,200 --> 03:24:54,600
 These stupid things are all of the ability of Chinese leaders.

3798
03:24:54,600 --> 03:24:57,500
 You can see clearly on this issue.

3799
03:24:57,500 --> 03:24:59,300
This was said bya few officials in the United States. 

3800
03:24:59,300 --> 03:25:02,700
 All of our teams in the America said

3801
03:25:02,700 --> 03:25:07,700
 with stuffs and the ability of the leaders they saw how the Chinese government dealt

3802
03:25:08,400 --> 03:25:09,900
 So about the question you just asked

3803
03:25:10,000 --> 03:25:12,300
is not the issue that they need to consider.  whether or not Guo Wengui has their secrets

3804
03:25:12,300 --> 03:25:13,700
 He absolutely believes that I have their information.

3805
03:25:13,800 --> 03:25:18,000
 the information. This is the second point He pointed at me knowing whenl will expose

3806
03:25:18,000 --> 03:25:20,800
Thirdly,everyone knows that I don't have any political background 

3807
03:25:20,800 --> 03:25:23,100
If I have political background...Do you knowwhy 

3808
03:25:23,100 --> 03:25:25,700
They will ask me not to disclose anything Itis because they will come and talk to me. 

3809
03:25:25,700 --> 03:25:27,300
 We can talk about it.

3810
03:25:27,300 --> 03:25:31,100
Therefore,these are the best evidence. Mr.Xiao Pingare you satisfied? 

3811
03:25:31,100 --> 03:25:31,700
 Yeslam

3812
03:25:31,700 --> 03:25:39,100
 prove that whether or not you have information. This question helps the audience and internet users

3813
03:25:39,100 --> 03:25:41,500
At lastyou can hear and see their reaction 

3814
03:25:41,600 --> 03:25:45,400
 You just mentioned you were imprisoned for 3 years,right

3815
03:25:45,400 --> 03:25:45,800
 Yes.

3816
03:25:45,800 --> 03:25:47,800
 So why do you fight back now after 3 years?

3817
03:25:47,800 --> 03:25:50,800
 Did you receive any hints from any leaders?

3818
03:25:50,800 --> 03:25:52,200
 Or because of their intense persecution against your family

3819
03:25:52,200 --> 03:25:55,000
and employees,which caused youtofightback 

3820
03:25:55,000 --> 03:25:58,500
 How did youcontrol the timing

3821
03:26:00,000 --> 03:26:05,200
 Iforgot how many times my wife woke up because of nightmares last night

3822
03:26:05,200 --> 03:26:06,800
Iknew it because lneeded to wake up and make a phone call at 3am. 

3823
03:26:06,800 --> 03:26:10,500
Now she is terrified to sleep after she wakes up 

3824
03:26:11,600 --> 03:26:14,100
 She loves to hug our dog at home.

3825
03:26:14,100 --> 03:26:17,400
lwas born in the year of dog. She hugs the big  dog every day. She said itis like hugging me.

3826
03:26:17,400 --> 03:26:21,500
Then we chatted for a while. She asked  whenI wanted to be an Internet celebrity

3827
03:26:21,500 --> 03:26:22,500
 and hoped that I could tell her more about it.

3828
03:26:22,500 --> 03:26:24,200
 She asked whyl took this path

3829
03:26:24,200 --> 03:26:26,900
and said that lhate people taking pictures and videos of me and becoming famous. ·

3830
03:26:27,500 --> 03:26:29,300
 She said why I chose this path.

3831
03:26:29,300 --> 03:26:33,000
legal system democracy and the 7 rules of Guo  And she asked whenl started to involve in Chinese

3832
03:26:33,000 --> 03:26:35,000
 She wasa bit confused. Sheis not brave enough to watch this till now

3833
03:26:35,000 --> 03:26:37,800
 First of all my wife is a housewife and she doesn't understand.

3834
03:26:37,900 --> 03:26:40,500
However,she wants to know about it. Sheis quite intelligent 

3835
03:26:40,500 --> 03:26:41,400
Thenl.. 

3836
03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:43,500
 You drink yours.I still have some here.

3837
03:26:44,800 --> 03:26:47,400
 It's free of charge.

3838
03:26:47,400 --> 03:26:52,900
Then ltell her.Do you remember the time when my 8th brother died 

3839
03:26:53,000 --> 03:26:55,800
lwas locked in the detention house for 20 months?I said 20

3840
03:26:57,400 --> 03:27:01,300
Isaid afterl was released,there was no money left in my home 

3841
03:27:01,300 --> 03:27:02,400
 because our assets were all taken by the police.

3842
03:27:02,600 --> 03:27:06,400
 In these two years,my wife had never bought any new clothes.

3843
03:27:06,400 --> 03:27:08,000
She brought with her only 5 RMB which was the maximum amount of money that she had. 5

3844
03:27:08,800 --> 03:27:11,800
When I came home,my son was wearing a police cap He said to me 

3845
03:27:11,800 --> 03:27:12,700
 that he did not recognize me.

3846
03:27:14,000 --> 03:27:16,700
came home,the whole family was crying Isaid,Do you still remember that afterl 

3847
03:27:16,700 --> 03:27:17,600
Ionly told you one thing 

3848
03:27:17,600 --> 03:27:21,600
Someone must pay for this. 

3849
03:27:24,300 --> 03:27:28,100
abit emotional when Italk about it Shesaid that she remembered it.lam 

3850
03:27:28,100 --> 03:27:29,400
You were like taking revenge 

3851
03:27:29,400 --> 03:27:34,800
Imust take revenge.Iwas holding the · cinerarycasket of my eighth brother.

3852
03:27:34,800 --> 03:27:36,000
Iwent home afterl settled it. 

3853
03:27:36,000 --> 03:27:38,100
 Same as my third brother Heis no longer here as well

3854
03:27:38,600 --> 03:27:40,500
Later onlasked my wife 

3855
03:27:40,500 --> 03:27:44,100
if all the Chinese bosses that she hac seen in all these years were like me 

3856
03:27:44,100 --> 03:27:46,100
who have never visited sauna massage and karaoke houses OK

3857
03:27:46,100 --> 03:27:47,700
 have never had secret lovers or illegitimate children

3858
03:27:48,200 --> 03:27:50,200
have not knelt down to the officials 

3859
03:27:50,200 --> 03:27:52,500
or have never sent my mother wife and  daughter to others as sexual partners.

3860
03:27:52,500 --> 03:27:53,400
 How many of these people have you seen?

3861
03:27:54,600 --> 03:27:57,600
me opening my heart to any officials  What's more,have you ever seen

3862
03:27:59,500 --> 03:28:04,100
 Itold youonly the people inside the wall who do not know the way China treats the ordinary people

3863
03:28:04,100 --> 03:28:06,700
and the political system of China. 

3864
03:28:06,700 --> 03:28:07,900
 You will knowit once you are overseas.

3865
03:28:07,900 --> 03:28:10,900
As the Chinese people who are alive, no matter you are rich ornot 

3866
03:28:10,900 --> 03:28:13,000
we are living in a dreadful society. 

3867
03:28:13,100 --> 03:28:15,300
 Just like the maggot inside that big latrine

3868
03:28:16,300 --> 03:28:19,600
 No matter how great you areyou are still a maggot.

3869
03:28:19,600 --> 03:28:22,400
 Even if you go inside the clear wateryou have to die.

3870
03:28:22,900 --> 03:28:26,800
want to be a maggot since a long time ago.  IsaidI don't want to be a maggot.Idont

3871
03:28:26,800 --> 03:28:28,300
This is the second reason. 

3872
03:28:28,300 --> 03:28:32,200
Forthe third reason,Ihave been influenced 

3873
03:28:32,200 --> 03:28:36,200
 by various kings,presidents,advanced people,professors,

3874
03:28:36,200 --> 03:28:38,500
civilization and different people internationally 

3875
03:28:38,500 --> 03:28:42,300
Ithink people who are living are valuable. 

3876
03:28:42,300 --> 03:28:44,400
 You canit always think about yourself.Just like whatlsaid,

3877
03:28:44,400 --> 03:28:46,900
Ihave everything.I have to thank this society 

3878
03:28:46,900 --> 03:28:48,800
 and China.

3879
03:28:48,800 --> 03:28:51,900
Thanks to all those who gave me what I have now. 

3880
03:28:51,900 --> 03:28:53,900
Ihave to do something meaningful 

3881
03:28:53,900 --> 03:28:58,800
lam not what people said.Idon't need to write a book or biography 

3882
03:28:58,800 --> 03:29:02,000
or become an official. Forme,that's totally stupid 

3883
03:29:02,000 --> 03:29:05,000
Aman dies like a light goes out. Nothing exists. 

3884
03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:07,900
 There has been Buddhism since a long time ago.ljust want to live,

3885
03:29:07,900 --> 03:29:11,400
and do something meaningful and valuable to society 

3886
03:29:11,400 --> 03:29:14,900
lam not intrigued by reputation,money or power. 

3887
03:29:15,100 --> 03:29:16,500
Isaid,Qing Zhithink about it 

3888
03:29:17,100 --> 03:29:20,800
 down-to-earth but people still want to kim him? How many people are like Wengui who is

3889
03:29:20,800 --> 03:29:24,000
Who has the chanceI said looked at the veterans 

3890
03:29:24,450 --> 03:29:28,175
Ezubao, Pan-Asia, Lei Yang, Nie Shubin. They are miserable.

3891
03:29:28,900 --> 03:29:30,600
 You should see those parents. Yang Gailan

3892
03:29:30,600 --> 03:29:32,800
 I think Yang Gailan looks like our mother

3893
03:29:32,800 --> 03:29:35,200
 My mother gave birth toeight sons

3894
03:29:35,200 --> 03:29:38,500
She ate leaves with sheep in the ravine every day 

3895
03:29:38,500 --> 03:29:41,800
Iwatched White Deer Plain'l said we were eating barks at that time 

3896
03:29:41,800 --> 03:29:43,000
while other families had food 

3897
03:29:43,000 --> 03:29:45,500
 The leader's house had food,but our house didn't have food.

3898
03:29:45,500 --> 03:29:48,400
When there were too many people,our mother really let us eat barks. 

3899
03:29:49,000 --> 03:29:50,700
Igot dysentery because of eating bark. 

3900
03:29:50,700 --> 03:29:54,000
 We are here today, Qing Zhi.

3901
03:29:54,000 --> 03:29:59,600
We have to do something for society We have to live with integrity 

3902
03:29:59,600 --> 03:30:01,200
 Idon't want to crave anything. What do we lack

3903
03:30:01,200 --> 03:30:05,800
can't think of anything that lstill want  We have everything we want now.l

3904
03:30:05,800 --> 03:30:09,600
The only thing that l want nowis definitely my safety 

3905
03:30:09,600 --> 03:30:10,500
 and the enforcement of the seven rules of Guo.

3906
03:30:11,500 --> 03:30:14,300
 The seven rules of Guo were mentioned later on.

3907
03:30:14,300 --> 03:30:18,900
 But you dont understand. That's whyl have some opinions on your comments.

3908
03:30:18,900 --> 03:30:19,900
 Great.Youhave opinions.No problem

3909
03:30:19,900 --> 03:30:23,300
 Allof you,who are criticizing haven't figured it out yet

3910
03:30:23,300 --> 03:30:28,800
All matters related to Guo Wengui started ever since 1989 which is 28 years ago. 281989

3911
03:30:29,600 --> 03:30:35,800
Maintaining my safety protecting my money and taking revenge are goals in different stages. 

3912
03:30:37,000 --> 03:30:42,000
The seven rules of Guo is one of the goals in one stage. lt's impossible to be fulfilled now 

3913
03:30:42,000 --> 03:30:42,700
 There is another 3-year goal

3914
03:30:42,700 --> 03:30:45,400
I haven't formed a party.lwill not use anyone. 

3915
03:30:45,400 --> 03:30:49,300
lam not going to be the president of Twitter party.  lwill never bea president in the rest of my life.

3916
03:30:49,300 --> 03:30:51,200
 Forthe things that Iwant to do now

3917
03:30:51,800 --> 03:30:53,300
you can take a look at my company 

3918
03:30:53,300 --> 03:30:56,300
 Dolhave a team No one believes me when I don't have a team.

3919
03:30:56,300 --> 03:31:00,200
 People said that l have many teams. People said thatlbrag myself thatlcan talk ingoldenshow

3920
03:31:01,300 --> 03:31:05,200
and create the great Qin Dynasty  They said that l can create Gongsun

3921
03:31:05,200 --> 03:31:07,100
 Are these things true?

3922
03:31:07,100 --> 03:31:11,800
Ididn't do it.Iwant to do it allby myself.Ihave the ability 

3923
03:31:11,800 --> 03:31:16,200
the wealth and these information.Ididn't use anyone of them. 

3924
03:31:16,900 --> 03:31:19,000
 Ican say that

3925
03:31:19,000 --> 03:31:21,200
 this Twitter is used by me only and thisis 100%true

3926
03:31:21,200 --> 03:31:24,000
Inever let anyone access my Twitter and You Tube. YouTube

3927
03:31:24,000 --> 03:31:26,400
Allthe information is handled by me 

3928
03:31:26,400 --> 03:31:28,900
except typing and copying 

3929
03:31:28,900 --> 03:31:31,600
Imet all of the people from the investigation  companies and the government

3930
03:31:31,600 --> 03:31:34,300
by myself during my cooperation with them. Imet all the lawyers by myself as well. 

3931
03:31:34,300 --> 03:31:38,100
That's why l don't have a team. It's because I don't want to hurt anybody or affect anyone. 

3932
03:31:38,100 --> 03:31:42,200
ability and determination of Guo Wenguin  Hence,for the intelligence,wealth,

3933
03:31:43,100 --> 03:31:47,700
 lam giving Chinese people a

3934
03:31:49,300 --> 03:31:52,500
chance to change this awful culture of maggot holes 

3935
03:31:52,500 --> 03:31:56,400
This is my ideal and goal that lam fighting for 

3936
03:31:56,400 --> 03:32:02,800
 You can't say something mean about Guo Wengui.They are too vulgar and inferior

3937
03:32:03,075 --> 03:32:07,675
Look at my past, the things happened to me and what I am doing now.

3938
03:32:08,200 --> 03:32:09,700
 Are you satisfied,Mr.Xiao Ping

3939
03:32:11,000 --> 03:32:12,800
 So this explains your motivation of why you started the disclosure

3940
03:32:12,800 --> 03:32:15,700
 through the conversation with yourwife

3941
03:32:15,700 --> 03:32:19,000
 Ican generally understand.

3942
03:32:19,000 --> 03:32:22,000
 Yes.At last my wife asked me a question which almost confused me

3943
03:32:22,000 --> 03:32:25,400
 She asked if this is what I do every day She said that when would this end?

3944
03:32:26,100 --> 03:32:26,700
 Yeah.

3945
03:32:26,700 --> 03:32:28,500
Isaid this is a good question 

3946
03:32:28,500 --> 03:32:31,300
 about.Are you protecting rights? This is also a question that lam concerned

3947
03:32:31,300 --> 03:32:33,400
Or you are fighting for a goal which is  more important than protecting rights?

3948
03:32:33,400 --> 03:32:36,500
To be honest,this guy saidl was visiting and protecting rights 

3949
03:32:36,500 --> 03:32:39,300
 Honestly, his brain must have problem because what he saidis nonsense.

3950
03:32:39,400 --> 03:32:44,600
 There is no need to use the money of Guo Wengui to reach this goal. That's too easy

3951
03:32:44,600 --> 03:32:46,600
pay you hundreds of millions of US dollars.  You just need to find someone who can

3952
03:32:47,600 --> 03:32:49,500
10 Then, you make a bunch of Internet celebrities One billion US dollars

3953
03:32:49,500 --> 03:32:50,600
100 can make 100 Internet celebrities.

3954
03:32:50,600 --> 03:32:52,500
It's not easy to disclose information every day 

3955
03:32:52,500 --> 03:32:54,500
Listen tomeyoucanalso attain the goal 

3956
03:32:55,200 --> 03:32:58,400
IprotectingTodaylam telling you For protecting rights,what rights am 

3957
03:32:58,400 --> 03:33:01,400
am doing the third episode of Ming Jing  that lam fulfilling every promise whenl

3958
03:33:01,400 --> 03:33:04,600
lam risking my one hundred billion of assets 1000

3959
03:33:04,600 --> 03:33:08,000
My whole family and employees might be caught or killed because of this 

3960
03:33:08,000 --> 03:33:12,600
 My lifeis at risk in every second.Do you thinklam doing this to protect the rights?

3961
03:33:12,900 --> 03:33:17,200
At this moment,can you find out any  Chinese who are in foreign countries,

3962
03:33:17,300 --> 03:33:20,000
 protecting the rightsTellme.

3963
03:33:21,700 --> 03:33:25,700
Teli me if there is any fake information in any of my disclosure. Tellme now. 

3964
03:33:25,700 --> 03:33:28,400
 ls there anyone who can take out the same paper like mine?

3965
03:33:29,700 --> 03:33:31,100
 Is this called protecting the rights

3966
03:33:32,600 --> 03:33:36,000
 This is a fight for our safetylives,respects

3967
03:33:36,000 --> 03:33:37,700
 and ideals

3968
03:33:38,300 --> 03:33:42,000
What kind of compromises needs to be amnestiedIwill never be offered amnesty 

3969
03:33:42,000 --> 03:33:45,800
Iwill never be the enemy of my country and the nation 

3970
03:33:45,800 --> 03:33:47,900
You see.Ido not have any relationship with any organization 

3971
03:33:47,900 --> 03:33:51,800
VIP including those who disclosed information.Isaid that VIP came and disclosed information. Sorry

3972
03:33:51,800 --> 03:33:55,600
 approve of youract.Idont want to cross you Firstyou have to let this government

3973
03:33:55,700 --> 03:33:58,000
 Don't pass to me either.I will give you time.

3974
03:33:58,000 --> 03:34:01,700
guy is guilty for treason, collaboration Our Chinese government says that this 

3975
03:34:01,700 --> 03:34:04,200
 and leaking confidential information Mine is already a lot

3976
03:34:04,200 --> 03:34:06,800
Idon't want to cross you.ljust give you time 

3977
03:34:06,800 --> 03:34:08,600
This is my seven rules of Guo 

3978
03:34:08,800 --> 03:34:10,700
 You have got to have ideals

3979
03:34:10,700 --> 03:34:13,800
 You cannot idealize things or have fantasies

3980
03:34:13,800 --> 03:34:17,500
l think you just answered the question. There are many entrepreneurs. 

3981
03:34:17,500 --> 03:34:25,200
the arrogance of power and nation traitors  You said they will bend their knees in front of

3982
03:34:25,200 --> 03:34:26,200
They are scared to fight back 

3983
03:34:26,200 --> 03:34:27,300
Have you seen them kneeling 

3984
03:34:27,300 --> 03:34:30,600
 How many of them have fought back Has Wu Xiaohui fought back?

3985
03:34:30,600 --> 03:34:34,000
 No.he hasn't.Who are kneeling in China

3986
03:34:34,000 --> 03:34:38,000
 It is for the junior officials The junior officials are the ones who kneel.

3987
03:34:38,200 --> 03:34:41,900
to kneel but we shouid lie on the floo All of these merchants are not qualified 

3988
03:34:41,900 --> 03:34:42,800
 with your hands,knees and head touching the ground

3989
03:34:42,800 --> 03:34:44,300
 Yes.

3990
03:34:44,300 --> 03:34:46,000
 Howcome you kneel Itis to kneel

3991
03:34:46,000 --> 03:34:47,300
lwas caught by the Commission for Discipline  Inspection of the Central Committee of the CPC

3992
03:34:47,300 --> 03:34:50,300
 The first thing happened was that a bunch of armed police officers stopped me at the airport

3993
03:34:50,300 --> 03:34:55,500
with their submachine guns. Meng Huiqingand a Muslim  guy whose surname was Shan from Ba Shu were present.

3994
03:34:55,500 --> 03:34:58,200
cars and they put me in one of them  Oh my god,there were a bunch of

3995
03:34:58,200 --> 03:35:00,700
 They put a cap on my head. The cars drove in lines, driving me

3996
03:35:00,700 --> 03:35:03,600
to the detention house of the armed police in Xi Sanhuan 

3997
03:35:03,600 --> 03:35:06,200
 The whole block was emptied.

3998
03:35:06,200 --> 03:35:09,800
covered the walls with soft bags in front of me They nailed the windows with a net and 

3999
03:35:10,400 --> 03:35:13,700
 Then there were 4 armed police officers who were carrying me,and they hit me and forced meto kneel down.

4000
03:35:13,700 --> 03:35:17,400
 He hit my head badly just to force me to kneel because Irefused to kneel.

4001
03:35:18,200 --> 03:35:20,700
 Guess what they said at last He said he had shown me respect just to let me kneel.

4002
03:35:20,700 --> 03:35:23,500
 Comrade Guo,everyone came in with their hands,knees and head touching the ground.

4003
03:35:24,000 --> 03:35:26,000
grandmothers to have a peaceful death. Then they called their grandfathers or 

4004
03:35:26,000 --> 03:35:28,300
That's Meng Huiqing 

4005
03:35:28,300 --> 03:35:31,900
 After that,they hit me for more than a day.Ifelt dizzy

4006
03:35:31,900 --> 03:35:33,000
down quietly and then beat me again  This gang hanged me with my legs upside

4007
03:35:33,000 --> 03:35:37,100
down quietly and then beat me again This gang hanged me with my legs upside 

4008
03:35:37,100 --> 03:35:39,900
 You know when the armed police officer hit me, the blood from my nose and face dripped down.

4009
03:35:40,000 --> 03:35:41,800
 They gave me back the black t-shirt that l wore whenIgot in.

4010
03:35:41,800 --> 03:35:46,300
 It became transparent in color because l lost too much blood.

4011
03:35:46,300 --> 03:35:49,600
So we can say that this gang were not satisfied after you knelt down. 

4012
03:35:49,600 --> 03:35:50,900
They wanted you to lie on the floor 

4013
03:35:50,900 --> 03:35:54,700
floor. There is no one who is only kneeling down Hence,the Chinese entrepreneurs all lie on the 

4014
03:35:54,700 --> 03:35:57,300
 What do you think about being the first of all entrepreneurs?

4015
03:35:57,300 --> 03:35:58,700
 That's very simple. Who knows who will get caught?

4016
03:35:58,700 --> 03:35:59,600
 No one dare to do that

4017
03:35:59,600 --> 03:36:02,500
lt said that it was the case of Wang Youjie,but actually they want to deal with Li Changchun. 

4018
03:36:03,000 --> 03:36:08,700
There are three people in Henan One was called Wang People's Political Consultative Conference. Quanshu who was the Chairperson of the Chinese

4019
03:36:08,700 --> 03:36:11,200
 Heisa hugely corrupted official

4020
03:36:11,200 --> 03:36:13,500
Provincial Party Committee in Henan. Originallyhewas the Secretary of the 

4021
03:36:13,500 --> 03:36:15,500
 His daughteris studying in America

4022
03:36:15,500 --> 03:36:19,100
 His son-in-lawalways gives me a lot of cash.

4023
03:36:19,100 --> 03:36:21,500
He wanted me to spend this money for him in the United States. 

4024
03:36:22,900 --> 03:36:24,200
 This guyis awful.

4025
03:36:24,500 --> 03:36:30,200
with Wang Quanshu and Li Changchun There were people who wanted to deal 

4026
03:36:30,200 --> 03:36:33,800
And they did it. Then Wang Youjie is related to Li Changchun 

4027
03:36:33,800 --> 03:36:36,500
 so they got me out and wanted me to go against Li Changchun

4028
03:36:36,500 --> 03:36:38,900
 Wang Quanshu and Wang Youjie.

4029
03:36:38,900 --> 03:36:41,200
At the end,I didn't pay Wang Youjie 

4030
03:36:41,200 --> 03:36:44,100
40 Instead, his son has borrowed four hundred thousand US dollars to us.

4031
03:36:44,100 --> 03:36:47,200
 The issue of Wang Quanshu was sorted out at last.

4032
03:36:47,200 --> 03:36:48,400
 No one is talking about it.

4033
03:36:48,400 --> 03:36:50,300
I don't have any relationship with Li Changchun. 

4034
03:36:50,300 --> 03:36:52,100
Idon't know him sol didn't deal with him 

4035
03:36:52,100 --> 03:36:54,400
 almost died.WhenI came out at last That was why they beat me andl

4036
03:36:54,400 --> 03:36:57,500
 money which was called the penalty as well. they blackmailed me a large amount of

4037
03:36:57,500 --> 03:37:01,500
 Guo Wengui didn't involve in corruption.ltwas said that I made a few hundred kilograms of gold.

4038
03:37:01,500 --> 03:37:02,500
 How can that be possible

4039
03:37:02,500 --> 03:37:05,000
After this issue,the Commission for Discipline  Inspection of the Central Committee of the CPC

4040
03:37:05,000 --> 03:37:09,600
IS became an evil association in the world which equals to IS.

4041
03:37:10,700 --> 03:37:15,600
 Youjust mentioned Meng Huiqing. In the recent lawsuits

4042
03:37:16,000 --> 03:37:19,000
 Some information concerning Meng Huiging's case has been revealed.

4043
03:37:19,000 --> 03:37:23,000
600 He took bribes of around 6 millions. You can't run from it.

4044
03:37:23,000 --> 03:37:25,200
There were around 5 millions involved in your bribe-taking. 500

4045
03:37:25,200 --> 03:37:26,900
 Letmeexplain further.

4046
03:37:28,200 --> 03:37:29,300
 Did youstudy law

4047
03:37:29,300 --> 03:37:30,200
 Yes.

4048
03:37:30,800 --> 03:37:34,700
 The premise of bribe-taking is that you have to do something for me.

4049
03:37:34,700 --> 03:37:38,700
If lasked you to do something for me,you have to do it 

4050
03:37:38,700 --> 03:37:42,800
Forthe case of Meng Huiqing being handled,Tianju took theofficial seal 

4051
03:37:42,800 --> 03:37:43,700
 They call itmanaging an affair'

4052
03:37:44,900 --> 03:37:48,500
Later,the time when Meng Huiqing took the  money wasnot closed to the time of that issue.

4053
03:37:48,500 --> 03:37:50,800
whether Meng Huiqing has borrowed money or has extorted bribes.. 

4054
03:37:50,800 --> 03:37:52,900
lwill show you the evidence in future 

4055
03:37:52,900 --> 03:37:57,600
So now we will say that the money is borrowed or itis from bribery 

4056
03:37:57,600 --> 03:38:01,100
If your money comes from briberyitwill bethe same as the case of Vice Minister Ma Jian. 

4057
03:38:01,100 --> 03:38:04,400
If we base on that saying for the issues of HNA and all these people 

4058
03:38:04,650 --> 03:38:07,900
China has to catch a million people and shoot one million or twenty million people.

4059
03:38:08,200 --> 03:38:14,800
This is entirely ridiculous and becomes sickening 

4060
03:38:14,900 --> 03:38:16,200
They totally ignored the fact 

4061
03:38:16,200 --> 03:38:20,000
Ididn't bribe Meng Huiqing.It would  be more appropriate if he bribes me.

4062
03:38:20,100 --> 03:38:21,600
 Whydolneed to bribe him

4063
03:38:21,600 --> 03:38:24,400
When Vice Minister Ma Jian bought my house,it was RMB16,00. 16

4064
03:38:24,400 --> 03:38:26,300
13 Forthe house of my employees,it was RMB13,000.

4065
03:38:26,400 --> 03:38:29,600
16 Meng Huiqing's wife bought my house with RMB16,000.Ididn't bribe him.

4066
03:38:29,600 --> 03:38:33,100
lam willing to accept the money if you bribe  me.But what are you going to do for me

4067
03:38:33,100 --> 03:38:34,600
Hence,Idon't want to mention these cases anymore. 

4068
03:38:34,600 --> 03:38:37,000
 Maybe one day,Iwill tell you again Ming Jing

4069
03:38:37,000 --> 03:38:39,600
has published many cases. Once all the cases are finished. 

4070
03:38:39,600 --> 03:38:41,200
l will tell you how horrible itis one by one 

4071
03:38:41,200 --> 03:38:42,800
 Does he have any evidence?

4072
03:38:42,800 --> 03:38:44,800
Iwill give you the evidence.I have the recording of Meng Huiqing. 

4073
03:38:44,800 --> 03:38:48,800
 lwill show you the WeChat messages and the written notes that were sent to me by Meng Huiging

4074
03:38:50,100 --> 03:38:54,700
This is not the darkness of justice. The legal system is upside down. 

4075
03:38:55,100 --> 03:38:57,200
 These people will be punished.

4076
03:38:57,200 --> 03:38:59,000
 Hejust entirely ignored the legal system.

4077
03:38:59,000 --> 03:39:01,800
 And he was released and had a trial

4078
03:39:01,800 --> 03:39:03,600
 Why donit you start the trial at the very beginning

4079
03:39:03,600 --> 03:39:07,200
Is it still a fair trial if the second party and third party are missed? 

4080
03:39:07,800 --> 03:39:10,900
 Ihave never mentioned my testimony.ls this fair

4081
03:39:10,900 --> 03:39:13,500
 Have you ever asked me how this issue happened?

4082
03:39:14,200 --> 03:39:18,500
 He gave out money. So was it counted as bribery Is it counted as bribery ifIpay you

4083
03:39:20,500 --> 03:39:23,300
 What is the position of Meng Huiqing in which Ineed to bribe him

4084
03:39:23,300 --> 03:39:28,100
 The consequence of bribing Meng Huiqing was that we caught Liu Zhihua.

4085
03:39:28,600 --> 03:39:30,200
 Meng Huiging is with me.

4086
03:39:30,200 --> 03:39:35,500
 How come Meng Huiqing was the only one being caught after he had investigated so many Chinese leaders?

4087
03:39:35,500 --> 03:39:36,900
of the Central Committee of the CPC Forthe Commission for Discipline Inspection 

4088
03:39:37,000 --> 03:39:39,400
many Chinese leaders and their family members  had borrowed tens of millions from me.

4089
03:39:39,400 --> 03:39:40,400
 Is it counted as bribery?

4090
03:39:40,800 --> 03:39:42,400
That is racketeering 

4091
03:39:43,900 --> 03:39:46,000
 That's why people said this is the darkness of justice.

4092
03:39:46,000 --> 03:39:48,500
 means as long as lhave the power,lown the world. You said the judicial darkness has come,which

4093
03:39:48,500 --> 03:39:54,800
 When you have power you are the law. With such a legal system

4094
03:39:54,800 --> 03:39:57,000
like what l have mentioned,Anti-greedy  Corruption by Corruption' Rule by Police'

4095
03:39:57,000 --> 03:40:02,000
then how could a fair truthful trial be possible  Rule by Gang'  Against Corruption by Gang'

4096
03:40:02,000 --> 03:40:04,600
 You,the literatiMr.Xiaoping

4097
03:40:04,600 --> 03:40:08,200
 and your great Mr. He Ping,revealsome truth.

4098
03:40:08,200 --> 03:40:10,800
 However,neither of you dare to speak more in-depth

4099
03:40:10,800 --> 03:40:14,100
 alegal system Can truth be revealed? Do you think there is still justice within such

4100
03:40:15,500 --> 03:40:19,600
Can you talk about the Hong Kong case Do you think it relates to Beijing 

4101
03:40:19,600 --> 03:40:22,400
 lt's for sure,a hundred percent,that they happened at the same time,on the same day.

4102
03:40:22,400 --> 03:40:25,500
This shows that Hong Kong is fully controlled by Beijing 

4103
03:40:25,800 --> 03:40:29,100
Regarding the loan collection of Guo Wengui by China Construction Bank suddenly 

4104
03:40:29,200 --> 03:40:32,800
that was entirely illegal! If l could not repay the loan 24 my house would be taken away within 24 hours

4105
03:40:32,800 --> 03:40:35,500
Secondlywho knows about the affairs of my son Guo Qiang 

4106
03:40:35,500 --> 03:40:38,000
 You could go and ask Li Yan.Idid pay her.

4107
03:40:38,000 --> 03:40:40,900
Idid pay.l wonder why you said lused violence on her 

4108
03:40:40,900 --> 03:40:41,900
Thirdlyabout the house in South Bay 

4109
03:40:41,900 --> 03:40:48,000
 its owner is not Guo Wengui but my son, Guo Qiang

4110
03:40:48,325 --> 03:40:50,325
There is another American, he is the joint owner of this house.

4111
03:40:51,300 --> 03:40:53,500
If he built any unauthorized buildings you  could impose him a penalty and that's it.

4112
03:40:53,500 --> 03:40:55,600
You just need to demolish the illegal parts  and charge the right penalty according to law.

4113
03:40:55,600 --> 03:40:57,500
 But why would you need to break this out at this time

4114
03:40:57,800 --> 03:41:01,300
You haven't dealt with it for several years,6 or 7 years. So why now 67

4115
03:41:01,300 --> 03:41:05,100
It clearly proves that the Hong Kong  government listens to Beijing completely

4116
03:41:06,100 --> 03:41:08,700
 lsn't it very simpleI don't owe you any money.

4117
03:41:08,700 --> 03:41:12,200
 You can simply impose penalty against me for any of my wrongdoings. That's it.

4118
03:41:12,200 --> 03:41:14,300
There is law in Hong Kong. How come you,thejudge, 

4119
03:41:14,300 --> 03:41:16,200
 could take me to the court without going through those documents

4120
03:41:16,200 --> 03:41:19,000
Therefore itis said that the use of hooligans,political threatening 

4121
03:41:19,000 --> 03:41:21,800
or gangster have penetrated into Hong Kong 

4122
03:41:21,800 --> 03:41:26,300
 Hong Kong is facing a crisis.lsn't simple So now who can prove that

4123
03:41:26,300 --> 03:41:30,100
Guo Wengui has no money Have you ever proved it Can you prove that you are richer than me 

4124
03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:32,800
 Whatis the relationship between my wealth and exposing secrets

4125
03:41:32,800 --> 03:41:35,600
Regardless of my wealthyou arestillanation traitor. 

4126
03:41:35,600 --> 03:41:38,600
My wealth is so little when compared with the add-up of those traitors 

4127
03:41:41,100 --> 03:41:42,000
Are yousatisfied? 

4128
03:41:42,000 --> 03:41:42,100
In video taken on the 11th of May regarding 511 the darkness of the China's real estate market.

4129
03:41:42,100 --> 03:41:47,700
In video taken on the 11th of May regarding the darkness of the China's real estate market 511

4130
03:41:48,500 --> 03:41:54,100
business laid on the control of the plot ratio  You mentioned that the key of real estate

4131
03:41:54,100 --> 03:41:57,000
 which involved a key character,Huang Yan

4132
03:41:57,000 --> 03:41:59,500
 You also mentioned Mr. Pan Shiyi.

4133
03:42:00,500 --> 03:42:05,100
 whochanged theplot ratio before.

4134
03:42:05,100 --> 03:42:07,600
 Can you provide any evidence?

4135
03:42:08,500 --> 03:42:13,400
 Two days ago,a mutual friend of Mr. Pan Shiyi and Mr. Ren Zhiqiang

4136
03:42:13,400 --> 03:42:16,400
in Hong Kong, whois also a respectable pal of mine 

4137
03:42:17,300 --> 03:42:20,900
visited my home on himself and said  Wenguiljust want to tell you that

4138
03:42:20,900 --> 03:42:23,800
you have great dream and high target 

4139
03:42:23,800 --> 03:42:24,900
 Very high.

4140
03:42:24,900 --> 03:42:29,500
 Don't mention about Pan Shiyi,Zhang Xin. For Ren Zhiqiang

4141
03:42:29,500 --> 03:42:33,500
 afterallhe is ambitious,so leave him out

4142
03:42:34,100 --> 03:42:37,500
 I really listen to what he said,but never to Mr.He Ping

4143
03:42:37,500 --> 03:42:38,200
Never listen 

4144
03:42:38,200 --> 03:42:40,000
 Because this guy has no backbone. Do you know that

4145
03:42:40,000 --> 03:42:40,900
 He Ping is spineless

4146
03:42:40,900 --> 03:42:42,800
Forget what ljust said. ...

4147
03:42:42,800 --> 03:42:45,400
 How could you criticize my boss Aren't you disrespectful to me

4148
03:42:45,400 --> 03:42:47,400
 You can't tell your boss! Don't tell him.

4149
03:42:47,400 --> 03:42:48,800
 This isa live broadcast.

4150
03:42:48,800 --> 03:42:50,000
 Oh reallyIforgot.

4151
03:42:50,000 --> 03:42:50,700
This is a live broadcast. 

4152
03:42:50,700 --> 03:42:51,600
 That's toomuch.

4153
03:42:51,600 --> 03:42:53,900
 Can you stop criticizing the media from time to time,cant you

4154
03:42:55,000 --> 03:42:58,000
 WhyWhen my friend from Hong Kong came to me

4155
03:42:58,000 --> 03:43:00,200
 he said,stop talking about himstop it.

4156
03:43:00,200 --> 03:43:03,900
 Then what about Huang Yan He said she wasjust alady.That's fine.Don't bother.

4157
03:43:04,800 --> 03:43:08,000
Ireally listen to what this pal's words. 

4158
03:43:08,600 --> 03:43:12,400
have ever encountered in my whole life.  Heisa real Goddess of Mercy thatl

4159
03:43:12,400 --> 03:43:15,800
This person is a real Goddess of Mercy 

4160
03:43:15,800 --> 03:43:17,000
The Beijing leaders should have him to persuade you. 

4161
03:43:17,000 --> 03:43:22,000
 Good idea Heis really my friend.

4162
03:43:22,600 --> 03:43:25,700
 Everyone knows about the plot ratio

4163
03:43:25,700 --> 03:43:27,600
 Just like opening a nightclub in Beijing

4164
03:43:27,600 --> 03:43:31,600
itis not somewhere for the beggarly poor and workers. 

4165
03:43:31,700 --> 03:43:34,900
 butaplace for the officials lt is explicit,just no one say it loud.

4166
03:43:34,900 --> 03:43:37,000
 l just tellan obvious truth.

4167
03:43:37,000 --> 03:43:42,800
 The plot ratio and financial loan of the real estate market are controlled by the China government

4168
03:43:42,800 --> 03:43:45,300
They are the most serious areas of corruption 

4169
03:43:45,500 --> 03:43:49,500
 figure. Her husband is rolling in the money. That Huang Yan is the most important

4170
03:43:49,500 --> 03:43:53,600
SOHO totheplotratioof that SOHO? ForPan Shiyi comrade,what happened

4171
03:43:53,600 --> 03:43:56,400
 But l listened to him and won't mention Pan Shiyi anymore.

4172
03:43:56,600 --> 03:43:59,200
 Therefore lam not going to reveal his secrets anymore today

4173
03:43:59,200 --> 03:44:04,500
 For the sake of my pal in Hong Kong,I think my discussion concerning Ren Zhiqiang,Huang Yan

4174
03:44:04,500 --> 03:44:07,400
and himPan Shiyi) would stop here. 

4175
03:44:07,400 --> 03:44:10,900
 From now on,Iwill not bring it up anymore

4176
03:44:10,900 --> 03:44:13,500
 as long as he does not screw around.

4177
03:44:13,500 --> 03:44:14,600
 Hestillhasalawsuit!

4178
03:44:14,600 --> 03:44:15,800
He must lose the case desperately without adoubt. 

4179
03:44:15,800 --> 03:44:19,500
 He must lose the case desperately without a doubt

4180
03:44:20,200 --> 03:44:24,900
If he could win it Iwould pay him a hundredfold.But how could it bepossible? 

4181
03:44:24,900 --> 03:44:26,900
 Given your law background,you know it is impossible.

4182
03:44:29,500 --> 03:44:32,400
 You are very confident,very confident of Mr. Pan Shiyi's case.

4183
03:44:32,400 --> 03:44:35,000
lam not confident With regard to everything,Ilive mywhole life 

4184
03:44:35,500 --> 03:44:37,100
 andl keep reminding myselfthat

4185
03:44:37,100 --> 03:44:40,500
the worst thing of aman is the lack of self-confidence. 

4186
03:44:40,500 --> 03:44:43,400
 However,what even worst is the change fromself-confidence to self-conceit,

4187
03:44:43,400 --> 03:44:48,000
 which is a disaster. Absolutely,itis so true and crucial.

4188
03:44:49,200 --> 03:44:51,000
The next question is relevant to the United State 

4189
03:44:51,500 --> 03:44:51,800
You were interviewed by the Voice of America on 19th of April 419

4190
03:44:51,800 --> 03:44:56,800
419 You were interviewed by the Voice of America on 19th of April

4191
03:44:56,800 --> 03:44:59,100
There are 56 questions. Oh my god! lt's awfull 56

4192
03:44:59,100 --> 03:45:02,400
 Not really. lt's almost done and itis not going to take long.Relax

4193
03:45:03,200 --> 03:45:04,700
Ihope you have another 3 hours. 

4194
03:45:04,700 --> 03:45:08,200
 3 hours is too long to me.lam too old andIcan't make it

4195
03:45:08,300 --> 03:45:09,100
 Never mind.

4196
03:45:09,100 --> 03:45:12,700
of the Voice of America,lt wasa big issue. 419 Well it was on the 19th Aprilthe incident

4197
03:45:12,700 --> 03:45:15,600
Idid some follow up. 

4198
03:45:16,400 --> 03:45:21,500
Ms.Gong Xiaoxia said before the interview with you on the 19th April 419

4199
03:45:21,500 --> 03:45:26,000
10 there was a ten-hour, off record interview

4200
03:45:26,000 --> 03:45:28,400
 concerning the China intelligence network aboard

4201
03:45:29,100 --> 03:45:31,200
 So,the information regarding this intelligence network

4202
03:45:32,100 --> 03:45:35,400
 is extremely valuable and crucial.

4203
03:45:36,000 --> 03:45:37,000
 Many people wonder

4204
03:45:37,000 --> 03:45:42,200
if the U.S.government has strong interest in this intelligence network. 

4205
03:45:42,200 --> 03:45:43,900
 At the same time,the New York Times also reported

4206
03:45:43,900 --> 03:45:46,900
CIA that CIA'sources in China were killed.

4207
03:45:46,900 --> 03:45:49,100
 BillGates,BillGateswrote about it.

4208
03:45:49,100 --> 03:45:52,300
 Yeslt was said that the intelligence

4209
03:45:52,300 --> 03:45:56,400
the United States to counterattack China or data in your hand had a great value for 

4210
03:45:56,500 --> 03:46:00,500
 You might give these materials to the United States

4211
03:46:00,500 --> 03:46:02,200
 in exchange for your protection.

4212
03:46:02,200 --> 03:46:05,600
 Some people have such worry and thought.What do you think of this?

4213
03:46:05,600 --> 03:46:12,500
No,I have neither intelligence concerning China  nor information about the intelligence network.

4214
03:46:12,500 --> 03:46:13,000
 No

4215
03:46:13,000 --> 03:46:16,900
 However I have something which is even more important than that.

4216
03:46:16,900 --> 03:46:19,700
007 Ah,people have watched too many 007(James Bond's) movies.Indeed,

4217
03:46:19,700 --> 03:46:22,600
 itis not valuable,it is not important.I have something bigger than that.

4218
03:46:22,600 --> 03:46:25,000
Of course,the US has been discussing this issue with me 

4219
03:46:25,000 --> 03:46:27,900
I don't want to take that option 

4220
03:46:28,700 --> 03:46:30,500
 Once again, the seven rules of Guo

4221
03:46:30,500 --> 03:46:33,100
 However if the traitors push us too hard

4222
03:46:33,100 --> 03:46:36,100
we would have some contingency plans. 

4223
03:46:39,000 --> 03:46:41,500
 So,the last question My question as shown on the paper

4224
03:46:41,500 --> 03:46:47,800
CaiXin reported on some of your political-business  relationships in the international market.

4225
03:46:47,800 --> 03:46:51,800
In particular your relationship with Blair 

4226
03:46:51,900 --> 03:46:55,900
 and some countries in the Middle East.

4227
03:46:56,000 --> 03:47:00,400
 Some people are quite curious. Can you tell us about

4228
03:47:00,400 --> 03:47:04,100
 these international high-level relationships?

4229
03:47:04,100 --> 03:47:07,700
to save yourself from further media exposure.  You could simply disclose the details here so as

4230
03:47:07,700 --> 03:47:09,600
 Have you got any close relationships with any key political figures,

4231
03:47:09,600 --> 03:47:12,200
like Blair Who are they 

4232
03:47:12,700 --> 03:47:16,000
Beforehand,please answer my question first. 

4233
03:47:16,000 --> 03:47:16,700
 Goahead.

4234
03:47:16,700 --> 03:47:17,900
 How many girlfriends do you have?

4235
03:47:17,900 --> 03:47:23,500
How many This is personal. 

4236
03:47:24,600 --> 03:47:26,500
So,isn't mine a personal one as well? 

4237
03:47:26,500 --> 03:47:28,300
OK Ok.Although you think this isapersonal issue

4238
03:47:28,300 --> 03:47:32,700
 Caixin has already disclosed it.

4239
03:47:33,300 --> 03:47:37,300
 Regarding the news of Caixin,I can't say itis 100%

4240
03:47:37,300 --> 03:47:39,600
 but 80%is fake.This has been proved by facts.

4241
03:47:39,600 --> 03:47:43,400
 Firstly,he best way to deal with fake news is to ignore it

4242
03:47:43,400 --> 03:47:45,100
 and nottorespond.

4243
03:47:45,100 --> 03:47:48,500
 Secondlymy friends are definitely beyond your imagination.

4244
03:47:48,500 --> 03:47:51,700
Iremember when I firstly got into Twitter half a year ago. 

4245
03:47:51,700 --> 03:47:54,600
When we did the live broadcast,there were some comments like 

4246
03:47:54,600 --> 03:47:59,200
Wow,Guo Wengui's suit looks good. He is handsome. 

4247
03:47:59,600 --> 03:48:01,200
Handsome. Many said you are handsome 

4248
03:48:01,200 --> 03:48:03,200
 Then,whoops! Guo Wengui has cars.

4249
03:48:03,200 --> 03:48:07,700
 Now you see how Hu Shuli has insulted me.That's a demonization.

4250
03:48:07,700 --> 03:48:12,100
 He wanted to build up an image of Guo Wengui asapauper,poor,fraud whois dirty,evil and ugly

4251
03:48:12,100 --> 03:48:13,800
 All are descriptions for me.

4252
03:48:13,800 --> 03:48:17,800
Solwas forced to flaunt my wealthlikeplanes,cars 

4253
03:48:17,800 --> 03:48:19,400
houses and expensive clothes 

4254
03:48:19,400 --> 03:48:23,000
is different from what she Hu Shuli)said.  After that,everyone discovers that Guo Wengui

4255
03:48:23,000 --> 03:48:25,600
My image has changed gradually 

4256
03:48:25,600 --> 03:48:28,500
Being vain is to satisfy commercial needs just because of what she Hu Shuli) said 

4257
03:48:28,500 --> 03:48:32,500
that Hu Shuli distorts the truth entirely Asa businessman,I cannot endure 

4258
03:48:32,500 --> 03:48:34,500
 Bo Xun said a video shows that

4259
03:48:34,500 --> 03:48:37,700
20 Xie Jiansheng has known me for 20 years

4260
03:48:37,700 --> 03:48:39,400
I haven't watched that video until now. 

4261
03:48:39,400 --> 03:48:43,000
 It has already proved that I do not know this guy. Meng Huiqing's case

4262
03:48:43,000 --> 03:48:45,600
 to Ma Jiabao's video and all kinds of fact have proved that

4263
03:48:45,600 --> 03:48:46,700
Ido not know this guy.Right 

4264
03:48:46,700 --> 03:48:48,200
 I hope lhave a chance to interview Xie Jiansheng

4265
03:48:48,200 --> 03:48:51,500
 Great,this guyisa nutter that he cannot even afford his meals

4266
03:48:51,500 --> 03:48:54,500
 and any proper clothes. But he still gabs about me.

4267
03:48:54,500 --> 03:48:55,900
That's entirely nonsense. 

4268
03:48:56,000 --> 03:49:00,800
 However,time will prove this is fake.

4269
03:49:00,800 --> 03:49:02,900
Meanwhile,regarding my political relationships, 

4270
03:49:02,900 --> 03:49:07,100
 Mr.Xiao Pingsincel started to reveal secrets half a year ago

4271
03:49:07,100 --> 03:49:13,000
 so many countries, politicians and friends have supported me.

4272
03:49:13,200 --> 03:49:18,300
Can other Chinese tycoons receive the same level of support 

4273
03:49:19,700 --> 03:49:24,100
Some tycoons may be extremely wealthy 

4274
03:49:24,200 --> 03:49:25,800
 but they cannot get the same level of support.

4275
03:49:25,800 --> 03:49:28,700
 They invited some of my friends to be their consultants.

4276
03:49:28,700 --> 03:49:31,300
Yet my friends just turned them down regardless of pay 

4277
03:49:31,400 --> 03:49:33,500
like to engage my lawyer Davis Polk. DavisPolk Secondlyso many Chinese tycoons would

4278
03:49:33,500 --> 03:49:37,500
DavisPolk You can go and ask him.

4279
03:49:37,500 --> 03:49:40,000
Hejust turns down 99%of the offer from Chinese.. 99%

4280
03:49:40,600 --> 03:49:44,400
 This is really not about the money. Lots of our China bosses consider that

4281
03:49:44,400 --> 03:49:47,500
 money work wellall the time. That's wrong

4282
03:49:47,600 --> 03:49:52,700
 In these countries, you need integrity, high standard

4283
03:49:52,700 --> 03:49:57,000
 and trust. And you haveto be cultivated.

4284
03:49:57,000 --> 03:50:02,100
Tony So,even Tony was named as my best friend,So what

4285
03:50:02,400 --> 03:50:04,300
 The princes of several Middle East countries

4286
03:50:04,500 --> 03:50:08,200
have personal relationship with my family  We also have investment cooperation.

4287
03:50:08,200 --> 03:50:10,800
 When the China leaders go there, [they would say]Thisis my brother'

4288
03:50:10,800 --> 03:50:12,200
 and followed bythisis mypartner

4289
03:50:13,000 --> 03:50:16,000
What you said is not true.Isee things from a different angle 

4290
03:50:16,000 --> 03:50:18,400
lam willing to do everything for him and fly to Beijing 

4291
03:50:18,900 --> 03:50:24,600
in cash held on behalf of the country  Moreover,my investors have trillion dollars

4292
03:50:24,600 --> 03:50:27,400
 Howcan tycoons be comparable to countries?

4293
03:50:27,400 --> 03:50:29,700
 So that why Zhangxin is basically a traitor

4294
03:50:29,700 --> 03:50:33,300
 but not a thief? Because she earned that title.

4295
03:50:33,300 --> 03:50:36,800
 Hence,the facts speak for themselves.

4296
03:50:37,100 --> 03:50:39,100
I am sorry fot what would happen to her by demonizing Guo Wengui.

4297
03:50:39,700 --> 03:50:45,000
ending.SheisaVultureof the Authority  Ms. Hu Shuli will definitely have apoor

4298
03:50:45,000 --> 03:50:49,800
At the same time, she herself is the rumor monger 

4299
03:50:49,800 --> 03:50:52,000
keeps spreading false rumors and lies every day 

4300
03:50:52,000 --> 03:50:54,200
 Consequently she will be die in the dark night

4301
03:50:54,200 --> 03:50:57,400
 and in her lies.

4302
03:50:57,400 --> 03:51:00,800
 Honestlyont want to attack her. When Ilook at her,I will get nightmare

4303
03:51:00,800 --> 03:51:02,000
 Do you know that

4304
03:51:02,000 --> 03:51:02,500
 No.

4305
03:51:02,500 --> 03:51:05,200
Whenever l think of her video,and many videos 

4306
03:51:05,300 --> 03:51:07,300
 Ihave nightmares

4307
03:51:07,400 --> 03:51:13,300
Frankly,the video describing how evillam is an insult to me 

4308
03:51:13,300 --> 03:51:16,800
 and does affect my sexual health.

4309
03:51:16,800 --> 03:51:19,900
 It's fine now. My wifeis here,It proves it isn't true,

4310
03:51:20,000 --> 03:51:21,800
I have not been seriously affected yet. 

4311
03:51:21,800 --> 03:51:23,200
Mr.Guoyou are humorous. 

4312
03:51:23,500 --> 03:51:27,000
When Italked about it with mywife 

4313
03:51:27,000 --> 03:51:29,800
she said she hadn't watched it yet. 

4314
03:51:29,800 --> 03:51:31,900
Itold her how others talked about me. Then she was just smiling overthere 

4315
03:51:31,900 --> 03:51:35,500
lasked if we need to record an audio someday 

4316
03:51:36,200 --> 03:51:42,700
 So,Hu Shuwli this lady did help me,and so did Wei Shi from Bo Xun

4317
03:51:42,700 --> 03:51:46,900
Ifound that Li Rou also helped me,why Ihave been thinking about a question. 

4318
03:51:46,900 --> 03:51:49,700
Yesterdaylasked my wife if l would still make up  my mind to pursue my dream without these enemies

4319
03:51:49,800 --> 03:51:55,600
and disasters,and all these issues 

4320
03:51:55,600 --> 03:51:57,000
 overthe past three years.

4321
03:51:57,400 --> 03:52:02,200
 Aslam a man greedy for enjoyment and wealth

4322
03:52:02,200 --> 03:52:05,500
and risk averse, sol might have given up 

4323
03:52:05,500 --> 03:52:12,500
 However,the god decided to let these traitors,Hu ShuliWei Sh

4324
03:52:12,500 --> 03:52:16,900
 and all these people to push me to be aboard for three years.

4325
03:52:16,900 --> 03:52:19,900
This allows me to think prepare and take this path 

4326
03:52:20,000 --> 03:52:23,200
 This is my mission assigned by the god. Soltold mywife

4327
03:52:24,075 --> 03:52:26,075
to get ready on this roller coaster, you have to fasten your seat belt.

4328
03:52:26,900 --> 03:52:28,300
We are going to forge ahead. 

4329
03:52:28,300 --> 03:52:31,300
Because the god has given me this  mission,Ihave a strong faith in that.

4330
03:52:32,800 --> 03:52:37,100
 Ajust cause attracts little support,thisis so true

4331
03:52:37,700 --> 03:52:40,800
Ibelieve lcarry a mission from god. 

4332
03:52:41,200 --> 03:52:46,400
message in what Guo Wengui are doing today  Also,Ithink there is one very important

4333
03:52:47,300 --> 03:52:52,600
Too much of everything will turn in a disaster'  That is Beauty nor ugliness are relative concepts.

4334
03:52:52,600 --> 03:52:56,900
Icannot have more wealth and possession  Otherwise it would be a disaster

4335
03:52:57,000 --> 03:53:00,800
What llack of is what l am pursuing now,responsibilityobligation 

4336
03:53:00,800 --> 03:53:05,500
 and ideal realization and altruism.

4337
03:53:05,600 --> 03:53:06,800
Are you satisfied,Mr.Xiao Ping 

4338
03:53:06,800 --> 03:53:08,600
 That's really noble.

4339
03:53:08,600 --> 03:53:11,500
lam serious. Oh no,Mr. He Pin and  you always talk about being noble.

4340
03:53:11,500 --> 03:53:15,100
 The last question. As a matter of factyou did not respond to

4341
03:53:15,100 --> 03:53:18,500
some of his specific views about you.  You simply said they were not true.

4342
03:53:18,500 --> 03:53:22,100
including Blair's flying on your private plane 

4343
03:53:22,100 --> 03:53:24,400
5000 and the buyingof 5000books.

4344
03:53:24,400 --> 03:53:25,200
 That's the case.

4345
03:53:25,200 --> 03:53:26,000
 So the allegations are true

4346
03:53:26,000 --> 03:53:32,200
 Yes,true! So what This is no big deal.

4347
03:53:32,700 --> 03:53:36,800
Are they illegal She always loves to spread malicious gossip 

4348
03:53:36,800 --> 03:53:39,200
 What was she trying to imply

4349
03:53:39,200 --> 03:53:41,600
Idid buy the books. It's no big deal.l bought the books for every employee 

4350
03:53:41,600 --> 03:53:44,100
 Each staffand the newcomers must read it.

4351
03:53:44,100 --> 03:53:45,700
 lt's indeed very important!

4352
03:53:45,700 --> 03:53:49,200
consultant. He works for charity organization Well about using my plane,he is our 

4353
03:53:49,200 --> 03:53:52,700
and solam his consultant too. He is entitled to use my plane,why not? 

4354
03:53:54,400 --> 03:53:59,100
 Great!l have finished my questions.

4355
03:53:59,100 --> 03:54:02,000
 Nowlwould like to ask you a question from a friend on the internet.

4356
03:54:02,000 --> 03:54:04,200
 This friend would like to ask about

4357
03:54:04,200 --> 03:54:10,200
the stock market crash which you have  mentioned earlier during my interview.

4358
03:54:10,700 --> 03:54:14,600
 Some are concerned with stories behind the scenes

4359
03:54:14,600 --> 03:54:15,500
 What's going on?.

4360
03:54:15,500 --> 03:54:19,500
 You have just mentioned that some people did something in it.

4361
03:54:19,800 --> 03:54:21,800
which aroused attentions including the United State 

4362
03:54:21,800 --> 03:54:26,000
5 Can you explain briefly We would stop after 5 minutes.

4363
03:54:27,900 --> 03:54:31,000
It wonit take 5 minutes. Thanks for being 55 so generous by giving me5 minutes.

4364
03:54:32,100 --> 03:54:34,200
Iwill report the stock market crash in the future. 

4365
03:54:34,200 --> 03:54:36,800
Iwill work on a feature report with Mingjing 

4366
03:54:37,125 --> 03:54:39,125
There is an inside story, involving political factors,

4367
03:54:40,000 --> 03:54:42,000
 and more importantlyeconomic factors and benefits.

4368
03:54:42,400 --> 03:54:48,400
 The inside story is shocking lt was because the interest group

4369
03:54:48,500 --> 03:54:52,500
from the country all these years to legal one.  was trying to convert the illegal money it took

4370
03:54:52,600 --> 03:54:57,200
. And redistribute the money secured this time to

4371
03:54:57,200 --> 03:55:00,200
M2 create opportunities for printing money to boost M2 in the future

4372
03:55:00,200 --> 03:55:03,300
Chinese and international speculators Thirdly,that was an internecine battle between 

4373
03:55:03,300 --> 03:55:06,000
in the international market 

4374
03:55:06,000 --> 03:55:09,000
Iwill get back to you with theevidence 

4375
03:55:09,000 --> 03:55:13,000
 Most of these money is still in the bank. They cannot clear them

4376
03:55:13,100 --> 03:55:18,600
25 account numbers.A total of RMB25trillion Iwill get back to you with the bank

4377
03:55:18,600 --> 03:55:23,600
was laundered by these families and these  thieves whom you are very familiar with.

4378
03:55:23,600 --> 03:55:25,300
So where's the money 

4379
03:55:25,300 --> 03:55:26,500
 They are within these countries.

4380
03:55:26,500 --> 03:55:27,200
Can you trace them 

4381
03:55:27,300 --> 03:55:29,500
Ican't.I have to be liable to whatlsay 

4382
03:55:29,500 --> 03:55:32,800
is also a concern to many people over the world.  This isn't just a concern to the United States.lt

4383
03:55:34,200 --> 03:55:39,800
Ican say responsibly, some countries are taking 

4384
03:55:39,800 --> 03:55:41,800
the highest level action to deal with it 

4385
03:55:41,800 --> 03:55:42,500
 Why

4386
03:55:42,500 --> 03:55:46,200
Thisis not only about money laundering fraud or any economic crimes 

4387
03:55:46,200 --> 03:55:49,400
 ltis because if it is not exposed,it may happen in the United States,

4388
03:55:49,400 --> 03:55:52,200
 Europe or Japan one day. Horrible!

4389
03:55:52,200 --> 03:55:57,400
This money would surely be disclosed. Such alarge sum of money, involving sophisticated conspiracy 

4390
03:55:57,400 --> 03:56:02,300
 By then,people would agree that actions should be taken by others

4391
03:56:02,800 --> 03:56:06,300
Let me repeatactions should be taken byother parties,not just Wengui 

4392
03:56:06,300 --> 03:56:08,600
 What a person can do is limited.

4393
03:56:08,600 --> 03:56:13,400
However,for where the RMB25 trillion has 25 gone and the truth of the stock market crash

4394
03:56:14,000 --> 03:56:17,800
would cause a huge impact. 

4395
03:56:17,800 --> 03:56:20,500
Because the stock market is still fresh in people's memory 

4396
03:56:20,500 --> 03:56:24,000
 everyone still remembers it clearly No matter the upper class or the poor

4397
03:56:24,000 --> 03:56:26,900
 Can you really reveal the story behind the scenes?

4398
03:56:26,900 --> 03:56:29,100
What do you mean What means byCan you really 

4399
03:56:29,100 --> 03:56:32,700
 Butas you show,itis just a hypothesis.

4400
03:56:32,700 --> 03:56:34,200
Of course. This is my goal. 

4401
03:56:34,200 --> 03:56:36,500
revealing secrets in these three years  This is one of the reasons why lhave been

4402
03:56:36,800 --> 03:56:39,800
 We ask the ordinary people to stay tuned.

4403
03:56:39,800 --> 03:56:42,700
 Just like whatl said today and 6 months ago are totally different.

4404
03:56:42,700 --> 03:56:47,200
People could understand more about the truth over time with more evidences discovered. 

4405
03:56:47,200 --> 03:56:50,600
 With limited internet access,people used to be hidden from truth.

4406
03:56:50,600 --> 03:56:51,800
 Everything has a process of development.

4407
03:56:51,800 --> 03:56:54,200
When they become more familiarwith it,they will listento 

4408
03:56:54,200 --> 03:56:57,200
and understand what l sayand we build trust 

4409
03:56:57,200 --> 03:57:00,500
By then,the truth will be revealed.This is crucial. 

4410
03:57:00,500 --> 03:57:02,500
 That's why the mission of Mingjing has just started.

4411
03:57:03,500 --> 03:57:07,000
 Everything has just begun How many have you got now

4412
03:57:07,400 --> 03:57:11,300
This is one. Many viewers love to imitate 

4413
03:57:11,300 --> 03:57:13,500
 Another one is everything has just begun

4414
03:57:13,500 --> 03:57:16,100
This statement has put a lot of people into jail 

4415
03:57:16,900 --> 03:57:17,900
Printing the words on T-shirt? T

4416
03:57:17,900 --> 03:57:18,300
 Yes.

4417
03:57:18,300 --> 03:57:21,800
 are now very afraid of these few words Well yes,many people are in jail. They

4418
03:57:21,800 --> 03:57:25,000
 They become a sign of language,and performance art

4419
03:57:25,000 --> 03:57:31,200
This is where the power of the influence is.  Moreover, Wechat accounts have been blocked

4420
03:57:31,200 --> 03:57:35,400
frequently these days.ls it relevant to your disclosure as well 

4421
03:57:35,400 --> 03:57:36,400
 Yeslthink so.

4422
03:57:36,400 --> 03:57:37,200
 Alot.

4423
03:57:37,300 --> 03:57:42,800
lheard about it. Alot of people have  been caughtthreatened and menaced

4424
03:57:42,800 --> 03:57:46,300
 This is good.

4425
03:57:46,300 --> 03:57:48,900
To put it in a simple way,the action force and reaction force 

4426
03:57:48,900 --> 03:57:51,700
lt will drive the improvement of another. 

4427
03:57:51,700 --> 03:57:53,800
 What we have to do is to break this wall.

4428
03:57:53,800 --> 03:57:57,600
24 We have proved to everyone today the work of my team in 24 hours.

4429
03:57:57,600 --> 03:58:01,900
 That's excellent. While the priest climbs a post,the devil climbs ten.

4430
03:58:01,900 --> 03:58:06,300
lalways said that the devil is forever devill the priest is still priest. We wili definitely win 

4431
03:58:06,300 --> 03:58:10,800
 Ok,thisis the longest interview

4432
03:58:10,800 --> 03:58:13,500
 among the three,Idid with Mr.Guo Wengui

4433
03:58:13,500 --> 03:58:15,500
 The first one took 2 hours. The second one took 3 hours.

4434
03:58:15,500 --> 03:58:18,100
 Today it takes 4.5 hours.

4435
03:58:18,100 --> 03:58:19,700
 4.5hours

4436
03:58:19,700 --> 03:58:25,000
If we deduct the 10 minutes concerning the interruption caused by Beijing 

4437
03:58:25,400 --> 03:58:29,000
it would be around 4 hours and 15 minutes. 

4438
03:58:29,000 --> 03:58:32,900
I would like to thank Mr. Guo Wengui. Thanks for your time 

4439
03:58:32,900 --> 03:58:36,000
 Thanks for being so energetic through the long interview.

4440
03:58:36,000 --> 03:58:38,500
 lapologize to our audience that llost control once during the process.

4441
03:58:38,500 --> 03:58:42,600
Ifailed my duty asa host. 

4442
03:58:42,600 --> 03:58:45,600
 Moreover,we didn't expect

4443
03:58:45,600 --> 03:58:46,000
1

4444
03:58:46,000 --> 03:58:50,200
the internet attack from Beijing was so fierce this time. 

4445
03:58:52,100 --> 03:58:55,400
 The audience complained for our insufficient preparation

4446
03:58:55,400 --> 03:58:59,100
 Indeed,we made lots of preparation, butwe didn't expect tha 1

4447
03:58:59,100 --> 03:59:02,600
 their attack was such fierce!

4448
03:59:02,600 --> 03:59:08,200
the capability of new technology.  However, Beijing might have underestimated

4449
03:59:08,200 --> 03:59:14,300
YouTube and the recovery ability of YouTube.

4450
03:59:14,300 --> 03:59:19,200
TWITTER immediately because the broadcast on Twitte Therefore,our broadcast recovered

4451
03:59:19,200 --> 03:59:21,600
 was not cut off entirely 

4452
03:59:21,600 --> 03:59:23,300
 This new technology has been tested.

4453
03:59:23,300 --> 03:59:25,500
 Absolutely tested,thisis one of the greatest results today

4454
03:59:25,500 --> 03:59:27,700
 Right.Bravo

4455
03:59:27,700 --> 03:59:30,700
YouTube In addition, YouTube recovered our program immediately

4456
03:59:30,700 --> 03:59:37,500
Hence,lam very,very grateful for our broadcast team's 

4457
03:59:37,600 --> 03:59:40,800
extremely hard work today 

4458
03:59:40,800 --> 03:59:44,000
 Iwant to thank your backup team.

4459
03:59:44,000 --> 03:59:46,300
 You always scold them. You shouldn't do that.

4460
03:59:46,400 --> 03:59:49,700
Their work was hard and they did a really brilliant job 

4461
03:59:50,800 --> 03:59:57,700
8 Iwould like to thank my internet friends at last They have been here with us since 8 o'clock,

4462
03:59:57,700 --> 04:00:01,800
 and the live has been broadcasted for 5 hours until now.

4463
04:00:01,800 --> 04:00:04,200
It is true.l saw them waiting whenl was at the subway station 

4464
04:00:04,500 --> 04:00:08,100
friends for your watching and listening.  So,lam really grateful to the internet

4465
04:00:08,100 --> 04:00:11,800
 Of course,thank you very much,Mr.Guo Wengui at last.

4466
04:00:11,800 --> 04:00:13,300
Would you like tosay something 

4467
04:00:13,300 --> 04:00:17,500
Thank you,Mr.Xiao Ping. First,let me thank allmy Twitter friends. 

4468
04:00:17,500 --> 04:00:21,800
all friends following this episode, 

4469
04:00:21,800 --> 04:00:25,200
and all the staff at the backstage of Mingjing. 

4470
04:00:25,200 --> 04:00:30,200
 Further,Mr.Chen Xiaopingand

4471
04:00:30,200 --> 04:00:35,300
 bears a huge risk due to this show. the boss of Mingjing,Mr. He Pin.He

4472
04:00:35,300 --> 04:00:39,300
 Thank you for your bravery for the country and exposing the truth to Chinese people

4473
04:00:39,300 --> 04:00:41,400
 Thisis very great!

4474
04:00:41,400 --> 04:00:44,400
That's why lalways respect Mr.He Pin a lot. 

4475
04:00:44,500 --> 04:00:48,300
Ifeel special towards Mr. Xiao Ping and Ming Jingren. 

4476
04:00:48,300 --> 04:00:52,400
They are the real guardians of spirit 

4477
04:00:52,400 --> 04:00:55,400
 human rights,democracy and law.

4478
04:00:55,800 --> 04:00:59,200
lam extremely touched by that. To be honest 

4479
04:00:59,200 --> 04:01:02,900
ican really devote myself to MingJing 

4480
04:01:02,900 --> 04:01:06,700
Meanwhile despite such harshness,the support,concern and trust of the Twitter friends 

4481
04:01:06,700 --> 04:01:10,900
 make Wengui and MingJin stronger

4482
04:01:10,900 --> 04:01:16,100
to be against the attack ofa country and the dark forces 

4483
04:01:16,100 --> 04:01:20,100
 The biggest gain today besides these few hours in which we have

4484
04:01:20,100 --> 04:01:23,200
the life and safety of ourentire familyemployees  successfully broadcasted this live at the risk of

4485
04:01:23,200 --> 04:01:26,000
 andassets,lives,danger

4486
04:01:26,000 --> 04:01:29,500
 as well as the risk of life of MingJing's people.

4487
04:01:29,500 --> 04:01:35,700
This is the third episode that everyone  have been looking forward for months.

4488
04:01:35,700 --> 04:01:39,800
 More importantly, we have undergone a real confrontation

4489
04:01:40,000 --> 04:01:42,400
 and ournew technology won.

4490
04:01:42,400 --> 04:01:46,000
 If the new technology lost today,the show would definitely come to an end

4491
04:01:46,000 --> 04:01:47,600
 and the traitors would be delighted

4492
04:01:47,700 --> 04:01:50,800
YouTube Becauseournewtechnology won,YouTube also recovered

4493
04:01:50,800 --> 04:01:55,400
therefore Guo Wengui's promise has been gradually fulfilling 

4494
04:01:55,400 --> 04:01:59,000
 Mr.Xiao Ping has done a good job.

4495
04:01:59,000 --> 04:02:03,100
Heis one of my respectful pals. He is very humorous 

4496
04:02:03,100 --> 04:02:07,500
and careful and is not affected by hearsay 

4497
04:02:07,500 --> 04:02:10,300
 His performance reflects the spirit of Ming Jingberesponsible.

4498
04:02:10,300 --> 04:02:15,900
todayit involves months of preparation.  Although it is just a couple of hours broadcast

4499
04:02:15,900 --> 04:02:18,100
The showis extremely fair and objective 

4500
04:02:18,100 --> 04:02:23,600
Also,the program today has addressed various issues. 

4501
04:02:23,600 --> 04:02:28,600
Ming Jing remains Mingjing lt never loses its professional ethics. 

4502
04:02:28,600 --> 04:02:31,600
 Mr.Xiao Ping's program today shows us that people

4503
04:02:31,600 --> 04:02:36,400
 who have skills,abilities and professional ethics

4504
04:02:36,400 --> 04:02:37,600
will earn respect from others 

4505
04:02:37,600 --> 04:02:41,300
 and could make a program that everyone will remember.

4506
04:02:41,300 --> 04:02:45,200
The third episode will definitely bea legend program of Mingjing 

4507
04:02:45,200 --> 04:02:48,100
showing how the Chinese move towards to a new century 

4508
04:02:48,100 --> 04:02:51,500
Forevery word Wengui said in the program 

4509
04:02:51,500 --> 04:02:56,000
 Iwelcome your comments.

4510
04:02:56,100 --> 04:02:57,300
 Wengui is willing to accept critiques.

4511
04:02:57,300 --> 04:03:01,400
 But I still hope our Twitter friends to remember that our requests,

4512
04:03:01,400 --> 04:03:04,700
 bliss,respect and safety require your actions

4513
04:03:04,700 --> 04:03:07,800
but not sitting aside having your melon, or just criticizing 

4514
04:03:07,800 --> 04:03:11,000
Asmall action wins over your thousands of words. 

4515
04:03:11,000 --> 04:03:14,600
With regard to your support,Wengui will never be bribedor be defeated 

4516
04:03:14,600 --> 04:03:16,000
under any circumstances 

4517
04:03:16,000 --> 04:03:20,200
like to talk fora couple of hours more  My show ends here today.lwould

4518
04:03:20,200 --> 04:03:24,600
but it seems that Mr.Xiao Ping and the team are already exhausted.Solwill juststop her 

4519
04:03:24,600 --> 04:03:27,500
 Everything has just begun Please spend more time with yourfamily

4520
04:03:27,500 --> 04:03:29,400
 and do more exercise. Thank you very much everyone.

4521
04:03:29,400 --> 04:03:30,800
 Mr.Xiao Ping,please

4522
04:03:30,800 --> 04:03:34,500
 Once again, since Mr. Guo Wengui has

4523
04:03:34,500 --> 04:03:38,000
mentioned quite a number of people in the interview today 

4524
04:03:38,900 --> 04:03:42,200
 Someare public figures.I hope thepeople mentioned

4525
04:03:42,200 --> 04:03:46,300
Mr.Winner,Mr.LiuChengjie,Ms.Song Yao 

4526
04:03:46,800 --> 04:03:49,800
 Mr.PanShiyiMs.HuShuli

4527
04:03:49,800 --> 04:03:52,700
 Mr.WeishiMr.Fu Zhenhuaand

4528
04:03:52,700 --> 04:03:58,300
 Mr.Wang Qishan and so on,if you want to respond

4529
04:03:58,300 --> 04:04:02,200
 we,Mingjing will provide you with the venue,channel and time.

4530
04:04:02,200 --> 04:04:04,600
 I,Chen Xiaoping, am willing to interview you.

4531
04:04:04,600 --> 04:04:09,700
You are also welcomed to have an interview with ourMing Jing president,Mr.He Pin. 

4532
04:04:09,700 --> 04:04:12,800
We are welcome you to come and counterattack Guo Wengui 

4533
04:04:12,800 --> 04:04:15,300
as wellas question the allegations raised by Mr.Guo Wengui 

4534
04:04:15,300 --> 04:04:18,700
 That's a good idea. Do they need to pay for the interview

4535
04:04:18,900 --> 04:04:20,600
We are all free. 

4536
04:04:20,600 --> 04:04:23,000
 Oh really! Then why did you charge me dozens US dollars?

4537
04:04:23,000 --> 04:04:24,000
 We did this for the public.

4538
04:04:24,500 --> 04:04:27,200
lam just kidding.lt wasajoke. Don't believe it. 

4539
04:04:27,675 --> 04:04:29,675
Mr. He Pin does not have a luxury office room.

4540
04:04:29,800 --> 04:04:31,900
lam kidding. Everyone has to be serious 

4541
04:04:31,900 --> 04:04:34,200
 The senior leader of Beijing called us, said this Mr.He Pin would make a fortune.

4542
04:04:34,200 --> 04:04:36,000
No,no,Iam just kidding 

4543
04:04:36,000 --> 04:04:37,500
 We,media people can never make a fortune.

4544
04:04:39,000 --> 04:04:43,800
 Ok. Thanks for watching everyone. See you in next episode. 

4545
04:04:44,500 --> 04:04:47,400
Thank you! Let's applaud to everyone. 

4546
04:04:47,600 --> 04:04:48,600
 Thank you everyone

4547
04:04:49,000 --> 04:04:49,800
That's not easy.v