WhatImean is..
lam begging you Wengui
Secretary please don't make fun of me
WhatdolintendtodoIwanttodeal withthismatter.
The 19th National Congress is coming There willbeanewterm of office soon
Let's get our things done now.shall we?
One more thing,Ihave audited yourassets.
After you pay the debts, you still have some assets left
The conditions of your capital and assets are still very good.
Your company is one of the private enterprises
ThatarerareinChina
20% Having such a low gearing ratio! See,my debt is only making up20%ofmyassets.It'salmostimpossibletohappeninChina
operating the leading property development company in Guangdong. You see, the famous ones including Wang Jianlin and the one
the Evergrande Group
loan.Way toomuch,haven'tthey Xu Jiayin have secured so much bank
Notto forget PanShiyi.Heis the same.He got somuch loan aswell.
That's why Ihave told you. You need to understand these things
Ifyourassets are to beiorfeitedbythecountry.
you wouldsell the house and donate to the nation alrightyou are a man of sublime virtue.yousaid
If you donateittothenation,whoisdaretoreceive it
The Ministry of State Security
TheMinistrywon'ttake it.
Theinvestigation team..
No.Let me tell you what itmeans.
Again.Youcan take back thelegalpart
lawsas youare protected bythelaw You are entitled to it according to the
You can have the Zenith Holding Company.Pangu,Yudaand
Founder Group,perhaps part of itright
the assets that belong to you.If you are indebts, You are the actual controller. You can get back
youshould pay them back,rightWecan talk aboutit later
Itiscommon for the private enterprises
tomess the taxes up.
Todaylam making a very formal and serious statement here
lam representing the country to visit you
Thank you.
ltell you
Idon'trepresent the partythepeopleand anyone thistime
Thisis the prerequisite
lamappointed bythecountry toresolvethisissue.
Ihopetoseek asolutiontotheproblems.
Firstpromisetoensure yoursafety.Notonly yours
but also your family's.Do yougetme ·
ltis stillthesame.We could clarify theseissues
and seek a solution at the legal and judicial aspects
yousee
Solvethem.Andputthemtoanend
Certainly you can rest assured that yourself
andyourfamily willbewell-protected.
Itcomes after solving thematters
lam heretoassureyouthat
· First.resolvetheproblems
Second.aftertheproblemsare resolved
if you are still willing to make contributions toour nation..
Of course lam very willing to,if conditions allow me todoso.
WhyListentome.
Secretary Meng has said something that you need to know
Treat Guo Wengui based on both hismerits and demerits
Thank you,Secretary Meng
These are his exact words.to treat you based on bothmeritsanddemerits.
Do you understandYou have been too radical.You needto admitit.
Right You have been radical for so many things
haven't youSomany times
But at the same time.you have made contributionstoourcountry.
You have also made an effort to better the country
No.itwould befine.
So l hope you would still be striving as always. Do you understand
Whenlwasabouttodepart.hetoldmetoholdyourhorses.
Hemustcalm down
Afterthatwecouldfindwaystosolvetheproblems together.
ls that clear
Let me tell youthis decisionismadebythem
not onlyoneperson.
Itis not an ideaof just oneperson
Do youseeSo.
Ican onlysay that sometimes you get the wrong information.Iwon't talk any further
About what you havejustsaidIwon't give youaclearanswer
forthecauseandeffectoftheincident
SuchastherelationsbetweenJhoLow.AbuDhab
and Najib Razak from MalaysiaIhave donesome research onthataswell.
Do yousee whatl mean
lam much clearer about the situation than Secretary Meng
AndnowtheSpecial lnvestigation team isdoing theinvestigation Becausehedidn't knowIhave some connections in Malaysia.
IhavetotellSecretary Meng
the Vice Minister Ma Jian and Imade thishappen · Chen Weili was sent back from Malaysia because
· Oh,thesonof Chen Liangyu
Hedoesn't even figure cut mypowerand influences in Malaysia
Central Poli-Legal Commissionisso useless. The Special Investigation team of the
· igot thelatestupdatesthrough manysources.
Isee.
Joking!Itismewhosent Chen Weili back to China
Letmefinish first.
Hedoesn'thavethecorrect information
either.
Inthiswayyoucanget yourfamilyready
andlet yourteamsolvethemonebyone
Things should be cleared up bitby bit. After thatwe can findacommon ground. ·
It could be done based on laws and regulations.
- ltis aprocess.
It doesn't mean that things can besettled
withabrief discussion herewecan get everythingsolved
Do yougetmeIhave already madesomeresearch.AIright
Wenguiin my estimation,for yourassets,
Butlthink youdohave RMB70 or80billion
OkayGood.
Foryour debts,Idon't quite understandof what you just said
30%35% But it should be around30%or35%.
ltshouldbethefact.
Thismattershould bebased on factsandjudgedbylawright
After the matter is clarified and the account isreconciled.
payback thedebts.Yes,wehavetorepay the debt
Yousaidyouneedtofollowthemarketrules.right
Clearing up these claims and debts pursuant to law
being documented in government Your net assets are then legalized and
Do youget itThis isaproblem to you asan individual.
Be careful of what you sayand nevergotoofar
WhatImeanis
mightnotbeyour intention inthefirstplace you might not plan to do something it
Howeverareyousure
the operation would fully comply with every rule and regulation
· Can you say the operation is 100% legallsitpossible
privateownershipormixed-ownership. No enterprises.whethertheyareunder
wouldnotdaretomakesuchaclaim Stateownership or central-government-ownership.
Even the state-owned and central-government-owned enterprises aresubjecttoaudityettheycanstillbeinamess.yousee
... Yousaidthatwewouldtalk later.
Afterthat ispenalty.Whatpenaltywillthatbe
Donit focus on the legal liability anymore
You need to plead guilty to what you have done and accept thepunishment,Do you know
Ofcourse itismy personal point of view.lwont know thefinal resul
· untilthe investigation is overrightMoreoverrafteryoupleadguilty
ican do it again for you. ,
It doesn't mean that wecover for each other,weare outlaws.
It doesn't mean that
Within the legal framework,we could do something
Ibelieve that something can be eliminated or added todeal with the problems.Do you get whatlmean?
You see wherelam trying to point out here.
eliminated.There is room for negotiation Somethingcanbe added and
Butlhave to tell you
only thisproblem is solved wecould besafe.
Ioughttosaywhatlneedtosayfor - the investigation.I won't hold back.
Certainly.No.not likethis.Thisisadifferentmatter
Forexample.one of your charges has been removed byme.
What
Ihave dropped one of your charges after my review.
....21 You are charged with 21 crimes
21 You said that it wasnot thecase.
No.what lam trying to say is that they 21 tried to bring the 21 charges against me.
For the charge of suspected kidnap, I have dropped your charge on that,
So you are clean on that becauselhave dropped it..
Do you know whyldid that?
For example,the case related to the nephew of Qingzhi.
i don't know him
The one who viewed a house with you in Hong Kong
Oh.that nephew.that relative
Heis your relative anyway.After viewing the house..
Theone who involved inbribes.
He bribed and embezzled money.
. He has two wives and bought two houses for them.
· wine,prostitutionand gambiing in Shenzhen,isitcorrect He indulged himself in pigging out on delicacies and
clothes.Hefinallygotaneight-yearsentence. He also bought expensive watches and
Whether this charge is fair or not.
Icanjudge it.Idropped it.See
Sothesefew incidents..
Don't youthink theyare ridiculous
After llooked into thosecases.
theycould not be handled and sortedoutbyme
washeAttheSecurityDepartment 48 So itwas decided tobe48hours.Where
What was he doingWriting a statement.After thatwherewashe
Hewassenttothepolice.tothepolicestation
branch office and he was arrested and waited forprosecution.. . After he arrived police station.hiscase was reportedtothe
You see.then helped drop the charge Aftertheprosecution.Thenthejudge
announced his verdict of corruption and embezzlement · Yousee how much helplhave offered here?
Thank youSecretary
This is what ldo onthe table
Forthingsunderthetable.Ihavesaidit before andl wontrepeat
Is it clear to you
Thisis how we make the deals and work together for mutual benefits
I am being charged with bribery. This is the main charge. Along with some otger charges.
Lets focus on the charge of bribery now.
What was the name of the guy from the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection that you were talking about
Meng Huiqing from Central Commission for Discipline Inspection
RightMeng Huiqing.Song Jianguowasnot mentioned
Zhang Yue wasnotmenticned either,notawordonit
Only Ma Jian was mentioned.It's written down inblack and white.
Ihaven't talked about the interview in Hong Kong.
SecretaryIwouldsaythat
Please go ahead.
If you read my file,wecantalk about it
I finished reading it
Ican tell you firmly thatI will take my own responsibilities. ·
Iknow whatldid.l won't try to get away by denying what Ihavedone.
Youthinklam that stupid
Continue.
Do you understand mycase
Goahead.
·.. Theyfabricated myfile
funds to pay for his own house? DidVice MinisterMa Jianuse government
Wheredid themoneycomefromUnderwhichcompany
What's the reason for buyingIt needs an explanation
It got to have evidence butit was all madeup
Not to mention Meng Huiqing. Hewasunderpressure.
Wheredid hismoneycomefromIf l offered himbribes
hewouldneedtoworkfcr me.
Hehad todosomething for me.The requisite criterion ofbribery is
the exchange ot money and power. Also, they said I bribed Song Jianguo...
See what Fu Zhenghua did
lbribed Song Jianguo Heshould bethe one to bribe me.
. Complete nonsense!lam very willing to discuss itfurtherwithyou.
lam telling you the truth
IfGuo Wengui is proved for doing such thing
thenl will be the biggest liar in the world
It's based on thelaw from all around theworld
that everyone has the righttoproveheis innocent
That's right
Andif anyone tries to prove heis guiltyit cantbeused asevidence.
So again your views on Ma Jian's case.
show me that you didn't read the file thoroughly.
Goon.
Why did the Ministry of State Security do that for me? WhydidtheViceMinister MaJian helpmewiththat
What was he coordinating
The Ministry of State Security has sent me more than a hundred notes.
personal decision of Vice Minister Ma Jian Was it the decision of the Ministry orwas ita
I,Guo Wengui heiped the country to establish diplomatic tieswiththeVicePresidentoftheUSA.AIGore.
Iprovided connections in America.
This is based on exchanges of benefits.
It's adeal between the nation and melreceived the officia lettersbuthowcomeyousaidthatlofferedthebribes
if it's briberyIwasbribing thecountry,notMaJian ·
Henever said anything like
you helpmewiththe coordinationiveyoubenefits.
Why would youcallitpersonal interests
Thirdlythe secretary of Shijiazhuang City that you mentioned.
lam saying that you must investigate intohim.lamhappyforcooperation
6% Ipurchased 6%shares from that bank in Shijiazhuang City
It has nothing to do with Ministry ofState Security and Ma Jian. Check why hesold ittome.
Check howmuchlbought itfor. Howmuchisitworthtoday
What wasthe useof such coordination effort
Thiscupof water costs one dollar. Itwould be seenasabargain if I only needed topay50cents.
However,lpaid 1.5 dollars for something thatisjustworth50centsnow
Why you guys putthatchargeonme
Secretary.willshow youtheproof.
Listentome.
Sofunny
Let me finish first.Listen
Atleastthelawshaveto befollowed
So Zenith Holding Ma Jianandhissister..
16properties are involved with
including business.commercial and residential use buildings ·
16properties.Yes ·
16properties
When he started to buy those residential properties,did you lend himthe money
No.lt was his sister who borrowed from me.
Yes.Hersisterdid,right
Ibought itback.Yes
Yes.So how much did he earn from the buying and selling
How much do you think?
lbought it at the market price
sixty thousand dollarsper sqm.
Hesoldittomeforthirtythousanddollarsper sqm.Soheearned twenty million dollars
Yes.He earned itat nocost.
He earned money. What couldldo aboutit
You have to listen tome..
FirstlyVie Ministr Ma Jianwasnotthe only one who bought properties from me.
Manypeople from the Ministryalsodid that.
At first,when he bought his property.he didn'tknowme.You guysignoredthatfact
Iwent around begging people tobuymy properties.Iwanted to apply for mortgage.
600 Myemployeesbought600properties anddidn'tuse their moneyatall.
Ma Jian had even used his own money
Was it illegal Did itinvolve any trade of powerand money?
DidIlethimworkforme
Listentome.Theseweretold byMa Jian
So SecretaryIwould like to discusswith you
lf you negotiate based on the file,I hope to clarify thesepoints.
Firstlythis fileis legalwe may need some discussionon it.
Secondlywhetherit'sthetruth,wecandiscusslater
If it is legal and what it says is true,Iwillaccept it
Ifitis illegal and what it saysisnot true.Idon'twanttotatkfurther
haveonemorerequest
. Idontwant any of my team members to be involved in it.
You must remember this.
Secretary Liu.lamcalling you Secretary Liu.
Ifyou.asarepresentativeofthe organization,laim thatI could use my team
and my legal team to help,l would welcome this invitation.
Butlwon't beresponsible forany potential consequences.nor
for any negative international impacts it may cause.
image and interests as my top priorities Until today.lam still putting the national
· Tobe honest like whatlsaid during ourphonecalls,
we must deal with it according to the law.Don't give meany privilege.
the idea of ruling the nationby law. Since Guo Wengui himself is supporting
If I break the law.how couldIpersuade others to follow suit
Idon't want too manypeopletobe involved. Guo Mei and Guo Qiang don't have the ability
lam willing tobear the consequences alone.
Onlylcould make everything clear
No oneelse coulddoit
Even yourteam couldn't
No.Oncemyteamisintouch,thewholeworldwillknow.
Icanitpromisethat.Soifyousay.GuoWengui.comeon.
lassure you that no one will puttheblame of the leakageon you.
No one would regard youasatraitor
attention that is way out of your imagination What happened to me now has drawn international
LetmerepeatIdon'twanttodothat
Butifyou let medo ityou havetobeartheconsequences,not me
lam willing to do that.Whatlam telling you today
what you saw today.I Wengui.is not here tomesswith you.
lf you say that loffered bribes to Meng Huiqing and Song Jianguo
Secretaryyouknowwhat theydidinthelast3 years
If I had broken the law they would have arrested me already
TheRed Interpol Notice would bepublished.
That's whylsaid they are taking advantage of you
asking youto finish where they leftoff
You should ask those giving statements for my cases.
statementsThey were not doing itinalegal way. Underwhat conditions didtheygivetheir
They extracted thestatementby torture.Secondly.they lied
wascaughteven before lleftChina Forthe case of Song Jianguo,Song Jianguo
ForSong Jianguo's case.Fu Zhenghua caught myson first
SeeOncewestart thisissue,wegobacktothestartingpoint
Right.
confess based on the evidence Fu Zhenghua So Secretary, if you want to make me
andthosepeopleprepared,it's impossible.
arecord forourconversation tomorrow No.Let's say if lask Xiao wutomake
will yousign it
-wont
Okay.Good.lagree.Wehavereached anagreement.
lwonit tell others andlwon't sign anything
Listentome.You should repeat yourstatements.
describe what happened so that you won't..
suggest that you should doan audiorecording Actuallyifyouwanttomakearecord,
Why
Afteryou record ityoucanletthe Special Investigation Team listen to it.
Because youcan'trememberevery detail
When they hear it.they cancross-check with the testimony
of Song Jianguo and Ma Jian
Noproblem.Youcanpreparetherecorder.
You can do it here. After you finish.you can give the recording tome.
Idon't have any recording device.
So let's decideittomorrow.Ihavetocheckwithmylawyer
becauselmay break thelawif I record ourconversation here
It won't be.
Thelaw inthe USA is really crazy
..... No.Imean...These two..
Pleasedontworry.Youdon'thavetoworryabout it
givenme some veryspecific conditions Do you understand whatl mean? You have
like releasing your staff and cancelling the Red Inferpol Notice. They are too specific.
Ithink ofa bigger request
· Butlcan't talkabout ittoday. Youunderstand
-- ljust told you. Nomatter itissevenorsixorevensix plus one.
What lam saying can be supported by legal grounds.
tracedf · If some bad deeds couldbe fabricated and
Youarebeingstubborn.
You ask for rule by lawat allcosts
lam telling you that it's not only about ruleby law
UndertheplanofFourComprehensives
itneeds time to realize rule by law
Thereshouldbe a process.
lttakesalot ofeffort
... If we work together,there willbean outcome.Thisworks on otherissues aswell.
Do youunderstand
theprocess,itisgoingtobetough If we specify every detail throughout
Ifwe make the process smoother.
the outcome may be much better than what youcanexpect.Do yougetit
But Secretary aboutthisone.couidlsaysomething
Secretaryforwhat youexactlytalkabouttoday
hand on heartIcansee thestory behind such relationship
LetmetellyouSecretary.You shouldn't listentomeaswell.
After reading my file, if you want a face-to-face confrontation with me, I am very please to do so.