1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,040 WhatImean is.. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,480 lam begging you Wengui 3 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,520 Secretary please don't make fun of me 4 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:09,040 WhatdolintendtodoIwanttodeal withthismatter. 5 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:13,560 The 19th National Congress is coming There willbeanewterm of office soon 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Let's get our things done now.shall we? 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,800 One more thing,Ihave audited yourassets. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,800 After you pay the debts, you still have some assets left 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,640 The conditions of your capital and assets are still very good. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,200 Your company is one of the private enterprises 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,760 ThatarerareinChina 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,200 20% Having such a low gearing ratio! See,my debt is only making up20%ofmyassets.It'salmostimpossibletohappeninChina 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,480 operating the leading property development company in Guangdong. You see, the famous ones including Wang Jianlin and the one 14 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:53,840 the Evergrande Group 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,200 loan.Way toomuch,haven'tthey Xu Jiayin have secured so much bank 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,040 Notto forget PanShiyi.Heis the same.He got somuch loan aswell. 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,600 That's why Ihave told you. You need to understand these things 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,400 Ifyourassets are to beiorfeitedbythecountry. 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,200 you wouldsell the house and donate to the nation alrightyou are a man of sublime virtue.yousaid 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,200 If you donateittothenation,whoisdaretoreceive it 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,560 The Ministry of State Security 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,120 TheMinistrywon'ttake it. 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Theinvestigation team.. 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,880 No.Let me tell you what itmeans. 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Again.Youcan take back thelegalpart 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,800 lawsas youare protected bythelaw You are entitled to it according to the 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:42,600 You can have the Zenith Holding Company.Pangu,Yudaand 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Founder Group,perhaps part of itright 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:55,840 the assets that belong to you.If you are indebts, You are the actual controller. You can get back 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:06,840 youshould pay them back,rightWecan talk aboutit later 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,240 Itiscommon for the private enterprises 32 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,000 tomess the taxes up. 33 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Todaylam making a very formal and serious statement here 34 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,880 lam representing the country to visit you 35 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Thank you. 36 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,960 ltell you 37 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Idon'trepresent the partythepeopleand anyone thistime 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Thisis the prerequisite 39 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,360 lamappointed bythecountry toresolvethisissue. 40 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Ihopetoseek asolutiontotheproblems. 41 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:59,160 Firstpromisetoensure yoursafety.Notonly yours 42 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,360 but also your family's.Do yougetme · 43 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:09,160 ltis stillthesame.We could clarify theseissues 44 00:03:09,812 --> 00:03:12,812 and seek a solution at the legal and judicial aspects 45 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:20,680 yousee 46 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Solvethem.Andputthemtoanend 47 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,080 Certainly you can rest assured that yourself 48 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,480 andyourfamily willbewell-protected. 49 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Itcomes after solving thematters 50 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,040 lam heretoassureyouthat 51 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,600 · First.resolvetheproblems 52 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Second.aftertheproblemsare resolved 53 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,400 if you are still willing to make contributions toour nation.. 54 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Of course lam very willing to,if conditions allow me todoso. 55 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,160 WhyListentome. 56 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Secretary Meng has said something that you need to know 57 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Treat Guo Wengui based on both hismerits and demerits 58 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,080 Thank you,Secretary Meng 59 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,560 These are his exact words.to treat you based on bothmeritsanddemerits. 60 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:19,600 Do you understandYou have been too radical.You needto admitit. 61 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,959 Right You have been radical for so many things 62 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:25,200 haven't youSomany times 63 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:31,520 But at the same time.you have made contributionstoourcountry. 64 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,240 You have also made an effort to better the country 65 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,760 No.itwould befine. 66 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:45,120 So l hope you would still be striving as always. Do you understand 67 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:54,160 Whenlwasabouttodepart.hetoldmetoholdyourhorses. 68 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Hemustcalm down 69 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Afterthatwecouldfindwaystosolvetheproblems together. 70 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,200 ls that clear 71 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Let me tell youthis decisionismadebythem 72 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,960 not onlyoneperson. 73 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,280 Itis not an ideaof just oneperson 74 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:27,120 Do youseeSo. 75 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Ican onlysay that sometimes you get the wrong information.Iwon't talk any further 76 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,920 About what you havejustsaidIwon't give youaclearanswer 77 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,600 forthecauseandeffectoftheincident 78 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,600 SuchastherelationsbetweenJhoLow.AbuDhab 79 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,440 and Najib Razak from MalaysiaIhave donesome research onthataswell. 80 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Do yousee whatl mean 81 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,240 lam much clearer about the situation than Secretary Meng 82 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,520 AndnowtheSpecial lnvestigation team isdoing theinvestigation Becausehedidn't knowIhave some connections in Malaysia. 83 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,960 IhavetotellSecretary Meng 84 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,600 the Vice Minister Ma Jian and Imade thishappen · Chen Weili was sent back from Malaysia because 85 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,480 · Oh,thesonof Chen Liangyu 86 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Hedoesn't even figure cut mypowerand influences in Malaysia 87 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Central Poli-Legal Commissionisso useless. The Special Investigation team of the 88 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,360 · igot thelatestupdatesthrough manysources. 89 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,280 Isee. 90 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:15,400 Joking!Itismewhosent Chen Weili back to China 91 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Letmefinish first. 92 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Hedoesn'thavethecorrect information 93 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,520 either. 94 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,840 Inthiswayyoucanget yourfamilyready 95 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,880 andlet yourteamsolvethemonebyone 96 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:39,560 Things should be cleared up bitby bit. After thatwe can findacommon ground. · 97 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:48,040 It could be done based on laws and regulations. 98 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,320 - ltis aprocess. 99 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:57,480 It doesn't mean that things can besettled 100 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:04,200 withabrief discussion herewecan get everythingsolved 101 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:10,240 Do yougetmeIhave already madesomeresearch.AIright 102 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Wenguiin my estimation,for yourassets, 103 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,560 Butlthink youdohave RMB70 or80billion 104 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,840 OkayGood. 105 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Foryour debts,Idon't quite understandof what you just said 106 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,000 30%35% But it should be around30%or35%. 107 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,120 ltshouldbethefact. 108 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,440 Thismattershould bebased on factsandjudgedbylawright 109 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,280 After the matter is clarified and the account isreconciled. 110 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,440 payback thedebts.Yes,wehavetorepay the debt 111 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Yousaidyouneedtofollowthemarketrules.right 112 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Clearing up these claims and debts pursuant to law 113 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:03,480 being documented in government Your net assets are then legalized and 114 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:12,080 Do youget itThis isaproblem to you asan individual. 115 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Be careful of what you sayand nevergotoofar 116 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,080 WhatImeanis 117 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:28,440 mightnotbeyour intention inthefirstplace you might not plan to do something it 118 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Howeverareyousure 119 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,280 the operation would fully comply with every rule and regulation 120 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:46,320 · Can you say the operation is 100% legallsitpossible 121 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,760 privateownershipormixed-ownership. No enterprises.whethertheyareunder 122 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,160 wouldnotdaretomakesuchaclaim Stateownership or central-government-ownership. 123 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:02,200 Even the state-owned and central-government-owned enterprises aresubjecttoaudityettheycanstillbeinamess.yousee 124 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:10,920 ... Yousaidthatwewouldtalk later. 125 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:19,200 Afterthat ispenalty.Whatpenaltywillthatbe 126 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Donit focus on the legal liability anymore 127 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:30,520 You need to plead guilty to what you have done and accept thepunishment,Do you know 128 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Ofcourse itismy personal point of view.lwont know thefinal resul 129 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:46,360 · untilthe investigation is overrightMoreoverrafteryoupleadguilty 130 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:07,880 ican do it again for you. , 131 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:17,000 It doesn't mean that wecover for each other,weare outlaws. 132 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,680 It doesn't mean that 133 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,760 Within the legal framework,we could do something 134 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Ibelieve that something can be eliminated or added todeal with the problems.Do you get whatlmean? 135 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,640 You see wherelam trying to point out here. 136 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:47,520 eliminated.There is room for negotiation Somethingcanbe added and 137 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:52,240 Butlhave to tell you 138 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:58,400 only thisproblem is solved wecould besafe. 139 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,480 Ioughttosaywhatlneedtosayfor - the investigation.I won't hold back. 140 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,560 Certainly.No.not likethis.Thisisadifferentmatter 141 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:11,840 Forexample.one of your charges has been removed byme. 142 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,680 What 143 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:15,000 Ihave dropped one of your charges after my review. 144 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,320 ....21 You are charged with 21 crimes 145 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 21 You said that it wasnot thecase. 146 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:29,200 No.what lam trying to say is that they 21 tried to bring the 21 charges against me. 147 00:11:30,166 --> 00:11:35,925 For the charge of suspected kidnap, I have dropped your charge on that, 148 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,080 So you are clean on that becauselhave dropped it.. 149 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,440 Do you know whyldid that? 150 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,760 For example,the case related to the nephew of Qingzhi. 151 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,640 i don't know him 152 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,600 The one who viewed a house with you in Hong Kong 153 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Oh.that nephew.that relative 154 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Heis your relative anyway.After viewing the house.. 155 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,920 Theone who involved inbribes. 156 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,800 He bribed and embezzled money. 157 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,600 . He has two wives and bought two houses for them. 158 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,960 · wine,prostitutionand gambiing in Shenzhen,isitcorrect He indulged himself in pigging out on delicacies and 159 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,920 clothes.Hefinallygotaneight-yearsentence. He also bought expensive watches and 160 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,440 Whether this charge is fair or not. 161 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,080 Icanjudge it.Idropped it.See 162 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Sothesefew incidents.. 163 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Don't youthink theyare ridiculous 164 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,640 After llooked into thosecases. 165 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,080 theycould not be handled and sortedoutbyme 166 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:44,200 washeAttheSecurityDepartment 48 So itwas decided tobe48hours.Where 167 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:51,520 What was he doingWriting a statement.After thatwherewashe 168 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:55,880 Hewassenttothepolice.tothepolicestation 169 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,960 branch office and he was arrested and waited forprosecution.. . After he arrived police station.hiscase was reportedtothe 170 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:10,920 You see.then helped drop the charge Aftertheprosecution.Thenthejudge 171 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:18,160 announced his verdict of corruption and embezzlement · Yousee how much helplhave offered here? 172 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,120 Thank youSecretary 173 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,360 This is what ldo onthe table 174 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,920 Forthingsunderthetable.Ihavesaidit before andl wontrepeat 175 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,200 Is it clear to you 176 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Thisis how we make the deals and work together for mutual benefits 177 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,400 I am being charged with bribery. This is the main charge. Along with some otger charges. 178 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Lets focus on the charge of bribery now. 179 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,080 What was the name of the guy from the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection that you were talking about 180 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Meng Huiqing from Central Commission for Discipline Inspection 181 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:56,000 RightMeng Huiqing.Song Jianguowasnot mentioned 182 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,720 Zhang Yue wasnotmenticned either,notawordonit 183 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Only Ma Jian was mentioned.It's written down inblack and white. 184 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:08,480 Ihaven't talked about the interview in Hong Kong. 185 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,320 SecretaryIwouldsaythat 186 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Please go ahead. 187 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:15,200 If you read my file,wecantalk about it 188 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:15,920 I finished reading it 189 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Ican tell you firmly thatI will take my own responsibilities. · 190 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Iknow whatldid.l won't try to get away by denying what Ihavedone. 191 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,640 Youthinklam that stupid 192 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Continue. 193 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,280 Do you understand mycase 194 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,800 Goahead. 195 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,160 ·.. Theyfabricated myfile 196 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,680 funds to pay for his own house? DidVice MinisterMa Jianuse government 197 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,240 Wheredid themoneycomefromUnderwhichcompany 198 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,680 What's the reason for buyingIt needs an explanation 199 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,880 It got to have evidence butit was all madeup 200 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Not to mention Meng Huiqing. Hewasunderpressure. 201 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,760 Wheredid hismoneycomefromIf l offered himbribes 202 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,120 hewouldneedtoworkfcr me. 203 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Hehad todosomething for me.The requisite criterion ofbribery is 204 00:14:53,325 --> 00:14:56,325 the exchange ot money and power. Also, they said I bribed Song Jianguo... 205 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,400 See what Fu Zhenghua did 206 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,600 lbribed Song Jianguo Heshould bethe one to bribe me. 207 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,640 . Complete nonsense!lam very willing to discuss itfurtherwithyou. 208 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,240 lam telling you the truth 209 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,960 IfGuo Wengui is proved for doing such thing 210 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,920 thenl will be the biggest liar in the world 211 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,680 It's based on thelaw from all around theworld 212 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,160 that everyone has the righttoproveheis innocent 213 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,920 That's right 214 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Andif anyone tries to prove heis guiltyit cantbeused asevidence. 215 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,480 So again your views on Ma Jian's case. 216 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,520 show me that you didn't read the file thoroughly. 217 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,480 Goon. 218 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Why did the Ministry of State Security do that for me? WhydidtheViceMinister MaJian helpmewiththat 219 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,880 What was he coordinating 220 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,440 The Ministry of State Security has sent me more than a hundred notes. 221 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,040 personal decision of Vice Minister Ma Jian Was it the decision of the Ministry orwas ita 222 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,920 I,Guo Wengui heiped the country to establish diplomatic tieswiththeVicePresidentoftheUSA.AIGore. 223 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,280 Iprovided connections in America. 224 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,280 This is based on exchanges of benefits. 225 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:54,520 It's adeal between the nation and melreceived the officia lettersbuthowcomeyousaidthatlofferedthebribes 226 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,040 if it's briberyIwasbribing thecountry,notMaJian · 227 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,080 Henever said anything like 228 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 you helpmewiththe coordinationiveyoubenefits. 229 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,720 Why would youcallitpersonal interests 230 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,760 Thirdlythe secretary of Shijiazhuang City that you mentioned. 231 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,800 lam saying that you must investigate intohim.lamhappyforcooperation 232 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,520 6% Ipurchased 6%shares from that bank in Shijiazhuang City 233 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,480 It has nothing to do with Ministry ofState Security and Ma Jian. Check why hesold ittome. 234 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Check howmuchlbought itfor. Howmuchisitworthtoday 235 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,880 What wasthe useof such coordination effort 236 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Thiscupof water costs one dollar. Itwould be seenasabargain if I only needed topay50cents. 237 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,840 However,lpaid 1.5 dollars for something thatisjustworth50centsnow 238 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Why you guys putthatchargeonme 239 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Secretary.willshow youtheproof. 240 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:39,920 Listentome. 241 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Sofunny 242 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,080 Let me finish first.Listen 243 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,320 Atleastthelawshaveto befollowed 244 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:52,800 So Zenith Holding Ma Jianandhissister.. 245 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,640 16properties are involved with 246 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,600 including business.commercial and residential use buildings · 247 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,600 16properties.Yes · 248 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,080 16properties 249 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,400 When he started to buy those residential properties,did you lend himthe money 250 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:11,400 No.lt was his sister who borrowed from me. 251 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:13,959 Yes.Hersisterdid,right 252 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,640 Ibought itback.Yes 253 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,400 Yes.So how much did he earn from the buying and selling 254 00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:21,760 How much do you think? 255 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,520 lbought it at the market price 256 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,120 sixty thousand dollarsper sqm. 257 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,120 Hesoldittomeforthirtythousanddollarsper sqm.Soheearned twenty million dollars 258 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,440 Yes.He earned itat nocost. 259 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,560 He earned money. What couldldo aboutit 260 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,800 You have to listen tome.. 261 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,760 FirstlyVie Ministr Ma Jianwasnotthe only one who bought properties from me. 262 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,120 Manypeople from the Ministryalsodid that. 263 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:48,600 At first,when he bought his property.he didn'tknowme.You guysignoredthatfact 264 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,160 Iwent around begging people tobuymy properties.Iwanted to apply for mortgage. 265 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,880 600 Myemployeesbought600properties anddidn'tuse their moneyatall. 266 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,320 Ma Jian had even used his own money 267 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Was it illegal Did itinvolve any trade of powerand money? 268 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,560 DidIlethimworkforme 269 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Listentome.Theseweretold byMa Jian 270 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,840 So SecretaryIwould like to discusswith you 271 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:16,480 lf you negotiate based on the file,I hope to clarify thesepoints. 272 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Firstlythis fileis legalwe may need some discussionon it. 273 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,120 Secondlywhetherit'sthetruth,wecandiscusslater 274 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:27,000 If it is legal and what it says is true,Iwillaccept it 275 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,200 Ifitis illegal and what it saysisnot true.Idon'twanttotatkfurther 276 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,560 haveonemorerequest 277 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,840 . Idontwant any of my team members to be involved in it. 278 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,920 You must remember this. 279 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,920 Secretary Liu.lamcalling you Secretary Liu. 280 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,400 Ifyou.asarepresentativeofthe organization,laim thatI could use my team 281 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,400 and my legal team to help,l would welcome this invitation. 282 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,080 Butlwon't beresponsible forany potential consequences.nor 283 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,240 for any negative international impacts it may cause. 284 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,160 image and interests as my top priorities Until today.lam still putting the national 285 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,240 · Tobe honest like whatlsaid during ourphonecalls, 286 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,960 we must deal with it according to the law.Don't give meany privilege. 287 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,160 the idea of ruling the nationby law. Since Guo Wengui himself is supporting 288 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,400 If I break the law.how couldIpersuade others to follow suit 289 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,680 Idon't want too manypeopletobe involved. Guo Mei and Guo Qiang don't have the ability 290 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,880 lam willing tobear the consequences alone. 291 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,280 Onlylcould make everything clear 292 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,320 No oneelse coulddoit 293 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,600 Even yourteam couldn't 294 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,440 No.Oncemyteamisintouch,thewholeworldwillknow. 295 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Icanitpromisethat.Soifyousay.GuoWengui.comeon. 296 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,000 lassure you that no one will puttheblame of the leakageon you. 297 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,600 No one would regard youasatraitor 298 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,960 attention that is way out of your imagination What happened to me now has drawn international 299 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,040 LetmerepeatIdon'twanttodothat 300 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,480 Butifyou let medo ityou havetobeartheconsequences,not me 301 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,880 lam willing to do that.Whatlam telling you today 302 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,880 what you saw today.I Wengui.is not here tomesswith you. 303 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,600 lf you say that loffered bribes to Meng Huiqing and Song Jianguo 304 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,000 Secretaryyouknowwhat theydidinthelast3 years 305 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,200 If I had broken the law they would have arrested me already 306 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,560 TheRed Interpol Notice would bepublished. 307 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,040 That's whylsaid they are taking advantage of you 308 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,600 asking youto finish where they leftoff 309 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,360 You should ask those giving statements for my cases. 310 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:03,760 statementsThey were not doing itinalegal way. Underwhat conditions didtheygivetheir 311 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:08,960 They extracted thestatementby torture.Secondly.they lied 312 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,840 wascaughteven before lleftChina Forthe case of Song Jianguo,Song Jianguo 313 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,680 ForSong Jianguo's case.Fu Zhenghua caught myson first 314 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,400 SeeOncewestart thisissue,wegobacktothestartingpoint 315 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,240 Right. 316 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,560 confess based on the evidence Fu Zhenghua So Secretary, if you want to make me 317 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,440 andthosepeopleprepared,it's impossible. 318 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:35,240 arecord forourconversation tomorrow No.Let's say if lask Xiao wutomake 319 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,040 will yousign it 320 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:36,880 -wont 321 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,200 Okay.Good.lagree.Wehavereached anagreement. 322 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,720 lwonit tell others andlwon't sign anything 323 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,680 Listentome.You should repeat yourstatements. 324 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,120 describe what happened so that you won't.. 325 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:54,000 suggest that you should doan audiorecording Actuallyifyouwanttomakearecord, 326 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,520 Why 327 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,560 Afteryou record ityoucanletthe Special Investigation Team listen to it. 328 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Because youcan'trememberevery detail 329 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,080 When they hear it.they cancross-check with the testimony 330 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,920 of Song Jianguo and Ma Jian 331 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Noproblem.Youcanpreparetherecorder. 332 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,320 You can do it here. After you finish.you can give the recording tome. 333 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Idon't have any recording device. 334 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,080 So let's decideittomorrow.Ihavetocheckwithmylawyer 335 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,560 becauselmay break thelawif I record ourconversation here 336 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,280 It won't be. 337 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,800 Thelaw inthe USA is really crazy 338 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:26,440 ..... No.Imean...These two.. 339 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Pleasedontworry.Youdon'thavetoworryabout it 340 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:43,680 givenme some veryspecific conditions Do you understand whatl mean? You have 341 00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:51,250 like releasing your staff and cancelling the Red Inferpol Notice. They are too specific. 342 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Ithink ofa bigger request 343 00:21:54,760 --> 00:22:00,080 · Butlcan't talkabout ittoday. Youunderstand 344 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:10,320 -- ljust told you. Nomatter itissevenorsixorevensix plus one. 345 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,720 What lam saying can be supported by legal grounds. 346 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:21,880 tracedf · If some bad deeds couldbe fabricated and 347 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:28,640 Youarebeingstubborn. 348 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,760 You ask for rule by lawat allcosts 349 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,080 lam telling you that it's not only about ruleby law 350 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,200 UndertheplanofFourComprehensives 351 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,680 itneeds time to realize rule by law 352 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,800 Thereshouldbe a process. 353 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,760 lttakesalot ofeffort 354 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,920 ... If we work together,there willbean outcome.Thisworks on otherissues aswell. 355 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,200 Do youunderstand 356 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:16,320 theprocess,itisgoingtobetough If we specify every detail throughout 357 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,400 Ifwe make the process smoother. 358 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:25,480 the outcome may be much better than what youcanexpect.Do yougetit 359 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,160 But Secretary aboutthisone.couidlsaysomething 360 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,880 Secretaryforwhat youexactlytalkabouttoday 361 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,880 hand on heartIcansee thestory behind such relationship 362 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,480 LetmetellyouSecretary.You shouldn't listentomeaswell. 363 00:23:41,132 --> 00:23:44,132 After reading my file, if you want a face-to-face confrontation with me, I am very please to do so.