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Miles Guo 20190504



Miles Guo 20190504

Summary:
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Dear comrades-in-arms, today is May 4th, and now Bengui is here in New York with our good friend Ms. Xiao Xia, and we are here to broadcast live to everyone. Xiao Xia Wengui chatted about the historic incident that occurred on April 19, 2017, that is, Ms. Xiao Xia, who was the representative of the VOA Chinese Department at the time, all her team went to my home in New York for an interview. A lot of things happened in the middle. Such a broken news (scandal). 
  
Today I am very happy to sit in the live room of our Himalayan Embassy and Guo Media with Ms. Xiao Xia. 
  
Time and space transfer, looking back at this time to today, it is really unimaginable. Xiaoxia is younger than Xiaoxia I met at that time. She does not have a wig. Real hair. I have figured it out than then. Still thin, and still smiling brightly, this is really a warrior! If I were the God of War, she was the God of God in the God of War, which I absolutely admire. 
  
Then another one. After the 419 incident, everyone knows that Ms. Xiao Xia and her team have launched such a legal action against VOA (American Confederate) to protect their rights and seek the truth. It has been two years. She and Mr. Dongfang and his team who came at that time encountered all kinds of incredible things that can happen in the independent legal system and independent media and free world in the United States, and Ms. Xiao Xia was formally announced by VOA just two months ago. The announcement of the expulsion is also incredible. 
 
Mr. Dongfang and others and Mr. Li Su are staying at home, waiting for work, and getting laid off, so what we said in China is "no suspension without pay", so many people have received significant economic and spiritual responsibilities because of this matter. , Major injuries and impacts of life. But they created a miracle. After all, in this interview, they act bravely, seek the truth, and maintain the original purpose of VOA. That is to let the world know the truth of the matter. There is another one, that is, let the world know China. 
  
They did the best, and they paid a price for it. But this incident is already a milestone in the news media. Today, we are very happy to talk with Ms. Xiao Xia, because before this we have not talked about the truth behind this, including before today, I promise to everyone: I haven’t talked about it! Today, many comrades also want to ask a lot of questions. Just now I also showed Ms. Xiaoxia a lot of questions posted on her mobile phone, a lot. From the interview I spoke to the beginning of our chat, there are too many people's opinions, but to be honest, 99.9% of them are not a problem. They are all personal opinions. The problem itself is the problem. The problem itself is of little value. , But everyone can ask casually. 
  
So now I start to give Xiaoxia, I now ask Xiaoxia to think about, what was behind you at 419 to share with you? Xiaoxia, please start! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Okay, thank you! Thank you Mr. Guo! I brought a pair of earrings today, everyone will first ask what earrings? Question mark on one side and exclamation mark on the other! 
  
The question mark is, I have so many question marks in my heart, like why everyone in the United States has given such a great effort to stop Mr. Guo from breaking the news. The bigger question mark is: Why did the Chinese government take such an unprecedented means to seal Mr. Guo Wengui. So, the other one is an exclamation mark. My exclamation mark means that this thing happened is indeed a milestone event. Let me put it this way, the week before April 19th, if we remember the news, we all know that at the time, it was at the Maracas Manor. 
  
Well, in the past two years, the US policy on China has undergone a fundamental change. This change has a direct relationship with the 419 interruption. I can say responsibly. Because I went to lobby more than 200 Congress offices and all departments related to China. So behind this, I think this is the way it is now. I want to ask Mr. Guo a few questions first. After that, I can talk to Mr. Guo. 
  
My first question I want to ask is a relatively big question, why? This question is a summary question. Now Mr. Guo has exploded a lot of meticulous material. It can be said that everyone will pay attention to this material. But we have to look back and take a step back and say, what kind of impact did the entire incident have on the United States? So my first question is: Mr. Guo, in your own opinion, to what extent has your news hit China? The crackdown is more on individuals, such as Wang Qishan and Meng Jianzhu? Or the entire CCP's ruling system? So I hope Mr. Guo will explain first. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Thank you Xiaoxia, now come back to our bank! We didn't start the chat, so we started the interview. To tell you the truth, a problem that many people didn’t think about seriously. When I met Ms. Xiaoxia, I was grateful to the background of the live interview of Ms. Xiaoxia’s VOA. We would like to thank a very important gentleman, namely Ms. Xiaoxia. Colleague, Mr. Dongfang! Mr. Dongfang used to be the head of the VOA (Voice of America) station in Beijing, seems to be the head of the station? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
reporter. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Reporter, he contacted me directly via Twitter, and also asked to interview me several times, but I refused. Later, it was very enthusiastic and positive, and after I had a certain understanding of him, because I am also a VOA audience for many years, I made three requests to him: 
The first one means live broadcast! 
The second one cannot be edited within three hours! 
Number three, I said I would designate this person to interview! 
  
Mr. Dongfang said, "Can I just do it?" 
He wanted to come, and I said "I'm sorry, I said I did not disrespect you, I will appoint Ms. Gong Xiaoxia to interview.", "Oh!" He said "That is my leader!", I said she came, these three rules Now, we can accept the interview. 
Then everyone knows that Ms. Xiao Xia came with Mr. Dongfang and his team, then this team came to my house in New York, almost 2 days in advance, more than 1 day to prepare. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
day and a half! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
A day and a half, then the interview with Ms. Xiaoxia in this 419 interview was on the afternoon of April 17, what is the significance of this interview? If we say at that time, these bullies and the Communist Party say we are bragging! The biggest meaning of this 419 off broadcast is to open the internationalization of the breaking news revolution. In other words, the breaking news
From my breaking news, I formed a collective action, and turned the breaking news from my Chinese incident into an international incident, an American incident, and started fermentation directly from the media. This is a milestone event! More importantly, that day, Wang Qishan and HNA were first proposed. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But my question here is, in your opinion, who does the significance of the whole news hit the hardest? Is it the CCP's ruling system? Or to a certain group of people within the CCP? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
All included, all included. I think the most important thing is to the Communist Party. Because the Communist Party was at its highest point at that time, this was preparing for the 19th National Congress. After the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China, the anti-corruption revolution led by Wang Qishan and Mr. Xi Jinping was prosperous. "To give 1.4 billion people a future", he is too high! Everyone admires upward! 
  
"Bang--" We came here with a breaking news revolution. The essence of this breaking news revolution is an absolute blow to the lies of the Communist Party and the campaign of anti-corruption and anti-corruption in the name of anti-corruption. However, the representative figures are Wang Qishan and Meng Jianzhu, Sun Lijun and HNA. 
As long as we have specific incidents, specific people, and specific facts to attack, the core is the Communist Party, because the representative is then King Xi, and we will destroy it directly! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
At that time, there was a detail that was very interesting. I didn't seem to have mentioned this detail yet... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
The details are you challenge me? Suspect me? Treat me rudely? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
No, hahaha... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Now you are much cuter than at that time. At that time, you came upright, and the devil entered the 18th floor like a village. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Of course I... Why did the devil enter the village? Because it is very simple. At that time, we were interviewing on April 19th. On the afternoon of April 17th, the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent two officials to find VOA reporters in Beijing, which issued a very direct threat to us... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You have said this many times! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
No, what is the threat of a detail in between? It is related to what you just said, "If you want to interview Guo Wengui, then you are interfering in China's internal affairs!" We know this, but the following sentence is strange, saying: "You are interfering in the process of the 19th National Congress! "I said, why do we interview a Chinese businessman and interfere with the process of the 19th National Congress? What is the progress of the 19th National Congress... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I'll interrupt you when you say this. Xiaoxia, I haven’t told you yet. Let’s talk about the truth behind today. Don’t say what you said, not what I said. 
 
Let's give the comrades all the real goods, and put their arms and sleeves. You were like a ghost in the village that year, with a bunch of your VOA equipment, to be honest, today I saw this equipment in the house and watched me at this high level. At that time, you were really a joke and also carried VOA's arrogance. I thought this China came with an artillery, you are here! VOA came directly against the fork and knife. To be honest, your machine is unbelievable, it is too bad! And the funny thing is, when Xiaoxia was on my live broadcast, I came out of the house and wobbled up and up one morning and said, "Mr. Guo, you are wanted, do you know?" 
 
I said, "Hey! When was it wanted?" This person looked like me as a police officer. "You are wanted, do you know? Do we know..." It means as if I was arrested immediately, Then I said don’t know! When I first got into the room, I suddenly "boomed" and supported a VOA logo, followed by a stick. This is the level when we build a house 20 years ago when our Yuda built a house! I said VOA at this level? ! At first glance, the color turned black and white, and the device was very old. The card reader with a mobile phone in a girl's hand was pretty good. Do I still buy one here? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I’m telling you this thing. I’m not going to defend VOA. VOA is a VOA taxpayer. It’s very old, and it’s normal. They don’t spend so much money. So what I heard here is that taxpayers should be grateful for this. They don’t have at least the same expensive equipment as Mr. Guo, so it’s normal that the equipment is not good, and we have a very very headache all day long. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
But the most exaggerated thing is that your attitude is compared with the equipment. It is like the VOA (Voice of America) devil enters the village. I just carried it in. Then I asked about that kind of question. I thought you were On behalf of Wang Qishan and Meng Jianzhu, oh, I'm scared! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
You see, it's been two years, and it's not over with me. At that time, you said that we are journalists. What I grabbed was that I did a few weeks of research. In this, the CCP spent two years at that time, and has been attacking Mr. Guo in the media. For each case, you said that from the Liu Zhihua case, to Xiao Jianhua, to Xiang Junbo of the Agricultural Bank, to all of this...China-Arab Fund, to Ma Jian...etc., etc., a variety of reports, I came in Why did you talk so much with Mr. Guo at that time, that is to say, all these things, are there any such things, are there any reports of these one two three four... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
When Ms. Gong Xiaoxia came, there were a lot of problems, but what do I want to say? When I said that about the equipment and your attitude, I was actually in a state at that time. I am now absolutely committed to my comrades. I didn’t go through this topic. I gave my impression at the time: You were arrogant with VOA and completely ignorant of Chinese society, because the questions you asked were too naive, and the questions you asked were very Aggressive. This VOA itself is anti-communist, and as a result I see that you seem to be quite communist. What does this fact prove? Before the broadcast was interrupted, Xiao Xia absolutely had nothing to do with me, and the team had nothing to do with me. We can stand it under the sun, it is called-Wang Qishan said "the regime under the sun", my name is the transaction under the sun, it can definitely be said that there is no transaction, it can be true... 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
At the time, I also understood that if I wasn't that...it would be more than ten hours if we talked... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
More than eighteen hours. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
For more than ten hours, if I ask every thing so clearly, I am not responsible for the audience if I live on TV. If I had to be responsible at that time, I had to put everything: what the CCP said, what is your situation like, and finally, all these things must be explained to the Chinese people at least. So, many things we really are, I leave China... 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
What account do you give to the Chinese people, don't give it to you... you have an account to the American people! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
My account to the American people is really what the Chinese people tell us, it is our Voice of America... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
That’s it. I want to talk about this one for you, Xiaoxia, Xiaoxia is now a secret agent, and now is a secret agent. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Ouch, huh! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Anyway, you have been wearing a hat for decades, and I want to tell you something, the truth behind what you don’t know, let’s tell the truth. Before I contacted you, I had contact with He Pin. I asked He Pin, did you know Xiaoxia? Do you understand the East? He Pin must be watching the show there now, but I never told you. Mr. He Pin said at the time: They are nothing great. Another thing is that live broadcasts are not necessarily live broadcasts. You really have to admire He Pin. He felt that the live broadcast may not be able to be broadcast live, and he felt that you might not understand Gong Xiaoxia, you will know it slowly. What do I mean? I don’t understand what it means. Later, after I met with you, I sent a message to He Pin. He Pin kept asking me, He Pin said they arrived, right? VOA is here, isn't it? Xiaoxia is here, isn't it? Are they staying at the hotel? I'm wondering, I will tell you today that there is definitely someone in your team who is in real-time contact with He Pin. You have never thought about this issue. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don’t care because I... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
What do I mean to you, you will know if you contact the Communist Party with He Pin. And He Pin knows, the most terrible thing: You have stayed at the hotel, and you will be there immediately. What did he say? I don't think you will be broadcast tomorrow, do you know about it? He Ping could even judge that it could not be broadcast. I said: Is it? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Let me put it this way, if it wasn’t for me at the time, it really wouldn’t work. Because on the 18th day above, the Chinese Embassy made countless calls to VOA. To what extent? At that time, it was said that the phone rang as soon as it was dropped, and when it was picked up, the leader was away, and it rang as soon as it was dropped. Finally, I answered the phone and an editor told me: The Chinese Embassy said that if you interview Guo Wengui, you will permanently damage the relationship between the Chinese government and VOA. I told him, I said... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Does the Chinese government have anything to do with VOA? What does it matter you tell everyone. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I told him and said: You tell them that VOA has nothing to do with the Chinese government, we just report. So, this word was passed back. After that, they went to my superior, the deputy director of the Voice of America, to go to the Chinese embassy, ​​and after finishing the interview, they immediately called me when they came down. At that time, when I was interviewing you, he picked me up. Phone, I said I can't answer the phone here, I have to go outside to answer the phone... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You see this, Xiaoxia, I want to interrupt you. It was one of the things that made me the most uncomfortable at the time. You just covered your phone and went out. Then you also said:'Uh, uh, east, let's go on the phone' and go down from the 18th floor of our house. I think you are an insult to me, you know? Our house is so big, 9000 feet, and then you can go to the terrace, you can go to a different room, and I won’t listen to your phone, why are you going to call? Oh Xiaoxia, especially in your time, in the years of Li Keqiang and Wang Qishan, Aim's blatantly doing bad things, bullied people directly, and clutched the phone. No, let's go, oops... At this time, He Pin sent me a message, He Pin said:'How is it? I heard that there is great domestic pressure, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is putting pressure on it.' The first time I heard pressure from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and heavy domestic pressure, I heard from He Pin. So I tell you, someone from your team will report to He Pin at any time. He Pin must be, I doubt him, there is communication with the country, even you do not know. I don’t know what’s going on, I can’t figure out who, and what is the name of the person you came from? What bin? A person. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Let's not say this... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
It’s not something, you don’t let it go, she doesn’t let it go. Then someone came to me. I asked her (referring to Ms. Gong): "Who is this?" She said, "A host." Haha, and say, what's wrong with this person. I now think, Xiaoxia, why He Ping could later smash Guo and anti-Guo with tens of millions of Communist Party money, and the VOA voice even you do not know the live broadcast status. He knows that behind this, I have never I didn't say that. Then Zhang Jing, let's talk about Zhang Jing. You know that many comrades want to ask you. At that time, I asked you: "Xia Xia, who is Zhang Jing?", you remember that I was wrong, I don't call it Zhang Jing, my name is Zhang Qing, is it Zhang Qian? Then you ask me, "You say it again", and then everyone looks at me, you remember all of you are watching me, and I stand. I said Zhang Jing? Zhang qian? Ah, you said, "You are wrong, you say it again", I said Zhang Jing, at least three times. At this time, I forgot who was next to you and said: Are you talking about Jing? I said it was Zhang Jing. He seemed to be from China, and he was an official in your office. You say, "Ah, Zhang Jing, don't say anything, don't say anything," you just say, "don't say anything, don't say anything." Special leader Fan Er, don't say anything, don't say anything! What do I mean, don't let me say it, why did you say Zhang Jing at that time, you wouldn't let me say it? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I am very simple, this thing is: I have a responsibility, as an internal staff, I have the responsibility to protect our own team, I have the responsibility to protect my colleagues, I have also said... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You also protect Zhang Jing... 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Of course there are... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Why don't you protect the East, you protect Zhang Jing? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Why don't I protect the East? Of course, protect the East. That is to say, my team, all of me, I have a responsibility to protect them, I also have a responsibility to say, I will not say anything that has not been really investigated. Up to now, I have not said a word, nor do I say this. Although I know many situations, this situation has caused me a lot of suspicion. But now, I am also waiting for the results of the federal government's investigation. However, VOA has been suppressing that we are only investigating you, we will never investigate any managers. VOA also told the State Department that BBG, and the State Department and all told us that we only investigate reporters, not managers. So, up to now, our lawyers have put the biggest opinion on them, why do you insist on not investigating any involved managers? Because the responsibilities of managers, if you are talking about responsibilities, are equally great. But they determined not to investigate. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So now I tell you, when it comes to Gong Xiaoxia, I want to tell you one, today this brings out a fact. That is, yesterday I was in a group of many people in Taiwan, China, and Japan that were concerned, probably in a group of several million, then these people are overseas groups, they asked yesterday from one of their group owners, for today In this interview, they attached great importance to it. You are particularly influential in Taiwan, and then talk about these questions. Among them, I want to tell you what I said to you yesterday. I asked these words just today. I want to tell you a question. 
 
Don’t forget, Xiaoxia is sometimes aggressive and professional, but to be honest, she is a little naive in my eyes. As for what she said just now, there is no important point. I will tell you the truth. Where is the focus? I'm not saying that today I'm cleaning Xiaoxia here, I'm cleaning her, I'm washing her white, I don't need it, I can't do it for Guo Wengui on behalf of the breaking news revolution, and I can't do it for no reason. 
 
What does that mean? From the beginning to the end, Gong Xiaoxia is an American citizen. She represents the Voice of America VOA. The Voice of America VOA belongs to the U.S. government. A TV station where the taxpayer gives money is dedicated to anti-communism, freedom, and democracy. Don’t forget the essence of yours. Xiaoxia is not an independent person. Unlike Sara and Mr. Luther, who do I want to support? What do you do? She can't. She has principles, laws, taxpayers... there are so many restrictions. Therefore, she was right about her behavior that day. 
 
If she came today... that day came: Guo Wengui, now I will help you explode whatever you want to say, hey, grandma, who, who. I just went so hard? Not only is she not a person from the United States or a professional, but also that there is a big problem, she will not survive today. So, comrades, when you ask questions, don’t treat Gong Xiaoxia as you, and don’t forget that Gong Xiaoxia is the Voice of America, and don’t forget that Gong Xiaoxia has been in her forty or forty in the United States. Years. The essence of this question, I hope to answer all questions, you are not a question
Questions, personalized questions, you touch your conscience, if you are the director of VOA VOA Chinese Department, what would you do? Don't bragging there. I tell you, this is the essence! 
  
So Xiao Xia, you have to reiterate this question. No matter what you did at that time, you can't predict anything about me. No one can predict me, no one can predict today, and you don't know me at all, and you want to tell me. You don’t understand the content of. You just did a preliminary investigation, this is your inevitable major. Then I was asked rudely and rudely for 18 hours, which also shows that you are just your major. You have upheld the basic principle of the independence and freedom of the American press. There is nothing wrong with this. The problem is that now we want to talk about the truth behind you. You have to talk about it. Why do you let your comrades stop broadcasting? 
 
We have a few premises Xiaoxia, the first one: three hours! After you come, I will say first. Before you arrive, I will say at least three or four times. Can you say the time is shorter? You asked me in person: "Mr. Guo, can we broadcast live for one hour for two hours?" I said, "If you want to stop like this!" I told you? I said Xiao Xia and Mr. Dongfang. If you want to say that this will stop immediately, it will stop broadcasting for three hours, and I say you can’t change it. If you want to change it, I will stop immediately. At that time, your only gentle eyes were open and said: "Hey, you said Mr. Guo, if it was broadcast after two hours and it was broken after one hour, can we continue to record?" I said, "That's not good, then I Not broadcast". I feel Mr. Dong's hand is tense, standing there. Mr. Dongfang said, "Mr. Guo, if you really want to stop broadcasting...", "If you really break, then break!" I said, "You can't give me... anyway, three hours, it must be three hours!" Then you said yes! 
 
At this time, I saw that you were nervous. To tell the truth, at that time, I feel very distressed today, that is, many comrades you don’t know. At that time, Xiaoxia and Mr. Dongfang were nervous, and I will not forget it all my life. Fear and nervousness made me more determined. These gangs of bastards are too bad. They are so black, even this American citizen and even the American TV station are so scared, so I was ready to burst the news that day. 
 
Let me tell you another message. I put a piece of paper in my pocket that day. You watched the video. When I was about to try to figure out the piece of paper, you cut it off. I want to take out that piece of paper. Today's breaking news revolution is completely different. I have never told you before. I never told you (say), you don’t know, for the first time today, you know that piece of paper. I hope that one day I will take it out in front of this comrade-in-arms. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
What does the paper say? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I believe it will affect American politics. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
What is the name of the person on the paper or something? Can you speak now? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
No, I thought it had a huge impact on American politics at that time, a huge impact! I destroyed 4 things. One was when Hudson gave a speech, and several of my top-secret documents were destroyed. The other one was that day. I left things. This piece of paper was written by an American and written with a left-hander. The thing was given by Chinese intelligence personnel, but this thing is the original, in my hand. I had a few words on it that day. In fact, about HNA and Wang Qishan, there are several spy lists. When I was about to take it, you said, "Oh, no, stop broadcasting." This is the bad thing you did. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
What was the situation at that time, I want to say... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Evil! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
You forget it, you are all the cause of your troubles, and you have said that we haven't even got our work done, I didn't ask you to settle this matter. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I made you pay, and the work is gone. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
In this way, the situation was like that. Call me the first day, that is, call me, so I can't call you when you go down. This is disciplined. I have discipline. I cannot be in front of the interviewee. Discuss interviews. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Yes, you see what you said today. This is the benefit of our two chats. Many people are talking about this issue, including the later one who is proud: ah, how? I judged it was impossible. However, it is precisely wrong to say that people are disciplined. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Because you are the interviewee, I can't communicate with my superiors about any interview-related issues in front of the interviewee. This is certain, for sure. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Look, professional? ! Are you sure your superior is Washington or not Beijing? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don't care about this, I just get the salary from which is my superior, right? this is very simple. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You want to steal the salary, you and the East, you receive the salary in Wang Qishan. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Will I live so miserably? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So you have to tell your comrades, comrades suspect you, who is your leader? Is it Liu Yanping or Wang Qishan? I’m still talking to you. I’m particularly surprised. I will tell you comrades again. I never said that. This is the first time. I told you today that I did not release many of Liu Yanping’s recordings. I asked Gong Xiaoxia in Liu Yanping's phone recording. Do you know what he said to me? I haven't told you this, this is the first time. He said: We have long wanted to pull this nail out of it, and later found that she has great influence, so forget it. 
 
This is the original words of Liu Yanping, I never said that today’s gift to you, this is recorded, (said to the staff around you: look back, it’s between 1st and 3rd May 2017 Recording, and Sun Lijun talk about Gong Xiaoxia, you have to find it out and release it to me) Hey interesting, today I give you, you and the East are the characters to be selected, so you two are definitely not members of the Communist Party, so don’t worry, sure Not Communist. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I haven’t worried about it. I know what I’m doing, but I can say that today is May and this month is now. This is the 45th anniversary of my counter-revolution. I am May 1974... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
That is when I was 4 years old, when I was still wearing crotch pants. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I am 17 years old. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
When you are 17 years old, you are already anti-communist, and then you are counter-revolutionary, right? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
我那时候当反革命,所以我当反革命当得很早,那时候要杀头的…… 
  
郭文贵先生: 
你是反人还是反革命?当时你说,反谁呢? 
  
龚小夏女士: 
反革命!当时反的我们那个大字报的名字叫「关于社会主义民主与法制」,我们说的共产党统治就是法西斯政治。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
在北大的时候吗? 
  
龚小夏女士: 
不在北大,我哪上北大?我在工厂当工人呢当时是,我是工厂一工人。当时不是我写的,我是递浆糊桶那个。但是当时我们就指责共产党专制、共产党政权,我们叫林彪的那个专制统治,是封建法西斯专制,这一句话把共产党全得罪了,后来人都抓了。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
所以说战友们啊,咱们要看小夏的时候看她45年前,我们很多人可能穿开豁裆裤的时候… 
  
龚小夏女士: 
那时候比现在漂亮多了。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
现在更漂亮估计,现在看小夏旁边带个蝴蝶,刚才说她耳环了没看蝴蝶。今天带着蝴蝶来的,她本身她的出生和成长就像一个蝴蝶一样,她一直在煽动着,在改变着世界。了解龚小夏女士的、问问题的,或对龚小夏女士有意见的啊,特别有某位战友,昨天给我发了最起码有十几段的语音,就说龚小夏女士的。我没给你回,我就想说一句话,你了解以前的龚小夏吗?你不了解!我了解以前的龚小夏,因为我最后我在刘彦平这、孙立军这、还有国内的各种内部咱朋友那得到,龚小夏一直以来就是反共的。 
  
龚小夏女士: 
我是我不知道。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
大家不要在这块拉仇恨,恨不得全世界都是我们的敌人,都是爆料革命的敌人,咱还报什么料啊?咱自己都是自己的敌人了。小夏这样的人要是共产党的人,你觉得美国有那么笨嘛? 
  
龚小夏女士: 
我不知道我有这么高层的关注,我从来没想过,我一直觉得我是小人物啊,就是在干。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
另外一个我跟小夏女士,我今天来了我跟她说,我们头两天我有一个照片,我去一个超级富豪家,这位女士她是嫁给一个欧洲来的美国人,超级有钱。刚刚她先生过世,留下了巨额财产,要求捐助大额捐款法治革命,最后我要离开的时候给我提了一条,她说:哎Miles,你要帮个忙,我希望你呀这个捐款以后呢,我们都是要求这个钱怎么用…。大额捐款人都指定的,绝不允许什么有人啊,想坐私人飞机呀,想住豪华酒店,不可以,不能这样开支,只用什么……列了七八条,捐完款可能更多条。 
 
我说我完全同意了,叫带有方向性、目的性的捐款,这是可以的,C4啊。然后说这个捐款里面我要加上把龚小夏、东方等她的团队7个人。哎,我说你咋知道7个人,我都不知道是7个人,我说我得确认一下。 
  
龚小夏女士: 
我都不知道是7个人。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
她说的7个人,等7个人,她说每个月,在他们有生之年要从这份钱里面给他们一份补助,或者报销或者是给他们资金支持。哎我说你怎么关心这事呀?结果她说因为VOA之音的断播是爆料革命的关键性事件。然后她说爆料革命的真正让我开始关注是从419,还有一个她说,你让我知道了王岐山有多可怕。 
 
她说我原来我认为王岐山这个人啊还是比较靠谱的,最起码还开明人士。她说从你那件事我觉得你这个人太不靠谱了,然后就关注你,关注419,然后关注王岐山,最后关注孟建柱。她跟孟建柱多次打过交道,他说这个人太坏了。 
 
最后来,她说这才让我了解中国有多危险,所以给你们在捐赠当中就指定你们的钱。这让我意识到什么?我现在给你说了,最起码我现在谈过3到4家,要给VOA所有参与人员,特别说东方先生身体不好,每月可以多给一点儿。所以说等他们捐完钱了,我们就可以履行这个责任。但是说明什么?你的影响力。 
  
龚小夏女士: 
我这样这么说吧,我们自已就在美国几十年了,自己吃饭钱没问题,那都不是,但是呢,我也要说我们到现在为止我们花了… 
  
郭文贵先生: 
你有什么吃的?我的妈呀,就吃的真的是吃得特别简单。 
  
龚小夏女士: 
我生活简单,我相信人是无欲则刚,也没人买得动我们。但是呢,我们确实花了22万块钱律师费,还要继续花下去,真的跟美国之音打。这个事情我绝对… 
  
郭文贵先生: 
很多人对你这个,小夏对不起啊,对你说捐款呢很多微词,你到底募捐了多少钱?总共到现在为止,可以说一下吗? 
  
龚小夏女士: 
我们现在可以说大概募了差不多20万美元的样子。那么就是我们自己再淘… 
  
郭文贵先生: 
20万美元,郭文贵给你捐了多少钱? 
  
龚小夏女士: 
零。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
零,听到了啊,我们对着镜头说的。从开始他们打官司被陷害,我给小夏女士说过如果我能帮助你,合法的支持你律师费,你随时给我打电话,我全兜着,包括你们的损失。结果小夏每次都什么,哎文贵呀千万别给我谈这个,一分钱不需要,我们不需要。最起码20次以上,有吧? 
  
龚小夏女士: 
我这么说,我当时跟文贵说我要拿你一分钱,我职业道德一地鸡毛,一分钱不要。 
  
郭文贵先生: 
真的是每次这样,说实在话小夏就说一句话,文贵我需要100万美元,需要1000万美元,只要合法,我马上给。她绝对没有!而且我们俩之间看到,在咱们那个国际新闻中心,完了以后你送我一碗。古董,一个白碗啊,当时我还挺不高兴,我说啥意思啊?代表王岐山、孟建柱,说郭文贵你完了!送个碗不就是完了吗?完蛋吗?我们老家不能送碗啊。 
  
龚小夏女士: 
坏了坏了我不知道这个,我们老家不能送钟,这里不能送碗,哈哈…… 
  
郭文贵先生: 
你看看,你这送个碗,好家伙!郭文贵你完蛋了,完了,还是古董碗,很值钱!但这碗我已经还给你了,后来我还给小夏了,专门按原来我包装好,我还给她了,我说我从不接受东西。 
 
但是,有人说「当时你不能接东西」,说有毒,哎我那保镖真跟我急了。你看我对小夏你有多信任啊,不是碗我也没确认当时有多少钱,但你送碗我还是接了,回头我再还给你。为什么?我对你有感激有信任,这是多么重要! 
 
The other is that I don’t want to donate money to you later. I donate money to you many times, but you don’t. You let me see the essence of a person. You said that I would call Guo Baosheng to call Wei Shi, and I said that I would donate 12 million to you, and he knelt down immediately, ancestors, thank you! It must be so. So you are different from Xiaoxia, don't donate money. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I want to explain this matter. The first bowl, I have to say that the bowl is indeed an antique bowl, but I bought it from the country for 28 yuan. At that time, Wen Gui said that he would invite us to dinner at noon. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
How much did it cost? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
28 yuan, 28 dollars. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I thought you sent $200 million, so I sent me a $28 bowl... 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But the bowl was worth my money. At noon that day, Wen Gui said that he would eat with us. According to the discipline, we can’t use VOA. For example, eating a meal for 5 yuan can be a sandwich, but you can’t use more than 10 yuan. s things. I estimate that Wengui would invite us to eat for more than 10 yuan, so I gave him a bowl in advance. That is to say, I kept my face and did not violate the discipline. That's what it means, nothing else. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Oh, do you still have this layer? Ouch, look at this little summer. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, I just mean it so simple, that is to say, I am a... I know with my familiar friends, I am a very rigorous person in this respect, because if it is who I send money, I am only in the United States Sound
When I was the director, I had to send the house, and I had to send everything. I said that the federal government can't arrest me and go to jail. Don't you pit me? So, I am indeed that. Especially the legal thing about our VOA interruption incident, because it has a direct relationship with Mr. Guo Wengui, and this interruption has a direct relationship. If I take Mr. Guo Wengui’s money, I’m not going to take the money. Who wants to donate money? It’s okay, even if Mr. Wen Gui can’t, because he is a direct client, I can’t let the case... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Has Zhang Jing donated money to you? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don’t know, many things... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You have to talk about Zhang Jing again, why didn't you let me say Zhang Jing at that time? Apart from protecting him, are you afraid? What is his role? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I'm not scared. I'm not scared. He and I should be equal in VOA. I don't say anything about him personally, there is a legal issue here. But for me, I really don’t have any background to get a definite message. I can’t say anything about it. My news and news are all in the middle. 
 
For example, if I ask Wen Gui about many things, I will ask him to say, the Chinese government has said about you, such as whether you are corrupt, whether there is such a thing, whether there is any such thing, how much money you have given, whether you have given Who is going on; for example, has Ma Jian received bribes? You said that I was the same as a thief, which also means something. But I have to ask clearly, because the Chinese government has already spoken. For us, this news balance principle is at least a principle. Is VOA able to provide a platform for Mr. Guo Wengui to speak? I said just now that it is so simple to have an account with the Chinese people, because the Voice of America is where American taxpayers pay to broadcast to the Chinese people, then your whole news is yours. It is necessary to explain to American taxpayers, to China. The people also have to explain, there is an explanation on both sides, this is a very serious matter. So, I don’t want to say that when you mentioned the name of the person in the Voice of America, I said at the time, don’t say it, don’t say it, because it’s because I don’t want to cause something that cannot be verified . 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Then you said that you think you were expelled from 419 to today, paying such a big price, and being questioned by so many people, and being organized and destroyed by Wu Mao.... 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
The navy, the main force of the Communist navy. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You honestly don’t regret it now? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Why should I regret it? This is a historic event! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Does Mr. Oriental regret it now? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
This is the case with Mr. Dongfang. Mr. Dongfang is that none of us have regrets. Now everyone is, including Baoshen, Li Su, we are tough guys, my colleagues are very, very good, I am right again They expressed their gratitude, and the price they paid was really great. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
This is my favorite male star, definitely a different person! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But I will tell you a case. Mr. Dongfang may be, if he is a little unhappy, he may have to go back to me and settle the bill. I will invite you to dinner. In this way, because he was really nervous at the time, not only were we not only pressured by VOA from the US authorities, we were also pressured by China. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
What are you nervous about? Is mental stress economic tension? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Of course there will be tensions, as will economic tensions, when they will be expelled. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Call Wang Qishan for money? (laugh) 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
You have a phone call, we don't. (Laughs) But it does face expulsion. They are all people who have worked in the American confidant for more than twenty or thirty years, so at this age, when they are fifty or sixty or sixty, they lose their jobs at once. All these things are very, very nervous. As you can imagine, how would you feel if a person was opened at the age of sixty? Mr. Dong was working as a VOA reporter in Beijing for more than three years. Because Beijing’s situation was too bad, he was also very nervous. What was he detained by the police station? So he had stomach cancer, so he came back for a major operation. He is a cancer, so after he finishes it, he will have to constantly check this after the operation, but after VOA reported this, he was very mental
I was nervous and suddenly had a heart problem, so I lifted the hospital. As a result, the doctor went to the hospital to have a heart operation. Where did VOA go? His superior does not allow his sick leave, saying you cannot take leave. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Is it Zhang Jing? Another one? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Not Zhang Jing, but another superior. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Is he violating human rights? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Human rights violations at that time were not allowed to operate on a fake basis, and the heart was operated on to this point. The result was not only that, they also went to Congress and said that our people pretended to be sick to avoid investigation. It’s so bad, so bad, I can’t imagine how bad it is. I told you that I don’t forgive the Voice of America. This is one of the most important things. I will never forgive them. The persecution is not so common even under the Communist Party. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I hope you have to give the East a story for you, you can't pull it down. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I will never pull it down. I am a very stubborn Hunan. I must fight this matter in the end. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You said it today, and everyone will wait to remember it for you. You must give it to everyone, to the East (an account), too bully! We firmly support you and stand beside you. Then you said how did the East make him unhappy? Are you upset when you say this? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Because everyone... Dongfang is also a tough guy. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Absolutely tough guy. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Many times, this thing, everyone just said that I am responsible for my own affairs, and they are also responsible for it. Dongfang has been responsible for this matter, and it has not been said to the outside world. He tweeted a lot of fans and he did not say it. , So today
God I said it here, this is the case in the East. Then he is in good health now, and I hope that everyone hopes that... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
How is he financially? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Even now he has not been fired, only me was fired, so my lost salary is to thank you (ha). But they are very nervous, they can be turned off by VOA every minute at any time. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Let me tell you Xiaoxia, I’m all our comrades in front of the TV, and I solemnly say to you and Mr. Dongfang that as long as it is allowed by US law and has nothing to do with anyone, it has to do with Guo Wengui himself. Guo Wengui will bear all the economic losses you have caused for a lifetime. As long as it is legal, as long as you need it, as long as it is legally needed, always remember Mr. Dongfang, as long as it is caused to you, your team, I will protect you for a lifetime lifetime. The U.S. government does not pay you wages, and the VOA does not pay you wages, as long as I am legally able to pay you, I will immediately pay. I solemnly promise that I can have an account with you at any time and deposit it with a legal account of the US government. We are not laundering money! Without Wang Qishan's ability, I opened the Bank of China to my doorstep. But there is one thing, Xiaoxia, I hope you really have to remember that you really have to be worthy of your conscience and protect all your siblings. They really inadvertently created a great history. Until now I don’t believe how many people realize the greatness of this matter, He Pin will never think so, He Pin will always play with money, he does not think that there are ideals and feelings. I believe there are feelings here, especially Mr. Dongfang. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Mr. Guo, let me put it this way. I have it, and I have it on behalf of everyone. But with all of us, we have reached a consensus. We are the Voice of America and several of our persecuted journalists. We have reached a consensus. We can withstand ourselves, and we must stand by ourselves. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So why did you ask me once, you said this "Wen Gui, does our team ask you for money?" What do you mean by asking me? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Because it’s very simple, when VOA surveyed our personal situation, including the individual’s family finances, all of them were turned over. That even... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Your money is really good, isn't it? (laughing out loud) 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
(Laughter) I am in charge of such a big American confidant. This is more than 10 million a year. He didn't find a child. This is also what I think I am more proud of. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
High, hide high! (laughing out loud) 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But, even here I say, Mr. Wen Gui, I have the heart. I’ve been in the United States for 32 years. Basically, it’s not a problem for us to eat. I personally have made a decision many years ago, that is, I call subtraction life, or simple life, that is, if you don’t want it, you just get it, and people can’t buy it. Move me, there is nothing to buy, because I don't need anything. So, Mr. Wen Gui also thank you! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
But you always remember this is my promise! Another thing I want to say about this is that Ms. Xiao Xia was in touch in her life. She was very impressed. Once she came to New York, and then she said I would drive. She drove a car, which is said to be a very broken car, and then drove, and the waves came, and then she asked me where to park, because parking fees are too expensive in some places. I said that I will stop for you, she said: Oh, I can't have a financial relationship with you. But I was deeply touched, because I think Xiaoxia treats me like a person, that is, I have to ask for the parking fee. How do I know where the parking is? New York, how do I know? Quite cute! But the parking fee does not account for me, but she also cares about the parking fee. Ms. Xiao Xia's frugality in life is really, let me see the frugality of my brother and elders in our family. Including Xiao Xia's dressing up till now, she is extremely frugal, and her meal is extremely simple and simple. I am really puzzled. She said that for a person like Xiao Xia, how can VOA expel her? Incredible! 
  
Later, when the relevant department talked to me and told me some truth, I was really shocked, because this can not talk to you, this is not the truth, this is a secret! Maybe later! I was really stunned. The investigation and investigation methods, including Mr. Dongfang at that time, I really heard for the first time that I wouldn’t even let the operation go, you seem to have told me once before Let it go, such a boss is more exaggerated than the Communist Party. What is the power, what motivated them to be so cruel to you, and expelled you, can you simply say what you think is the reason? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I think all these things related to China are probably money, because in our respect we have faith... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
It's all money! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
We have faith, we have faith, but those who serve the Chinese government have no faith, they only recognize money. Well, we know that some of the senior leaders of the American Broadcasting Commission and VOA have a very, very large business at home and in China. The business is very big, and the relationship with the Chinese government is very big. Big, including cooperation with the Chinese government, that is to say, with China’s official agencies, everyone can check, everyone can check online, the information is public. 
 
In recent years, I actually wanted to ask Mr. Guo a question, that is, the US government has now found a large number of US officials, including officials like the US Department of State and the US Federal Bureau of Investigation, who have Chinese background, and some have no Chinese background, bought by the Chinese government, and this way of buying is now much more advanced than in the past. In the past, you said you bought a spy, what did you spend, now, for business, this business is legal, so this US government is now Is also dealing with this matter. 
 
I told Congress myself that at least the top leaders of the American Broadcasting Corporation and the Voice of America who have business with China and who have business with their family, at least he has to make the China issue. Avoiding, then this time it is not only not avoiding, but these people who have business with China have vigorously intervened. They know how much they have paid in China. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So Xiao Xia, when you mentioned this, it was very interesting. For the first time, I called an old leader from a domestic country, which is called the person in the system. Wengui, corruption is indeed very serious in China. The people you refer to, such as Wang Qishan, Meng Jianzhu, and Sun Lijun, are indeed extremely poorly represented. I appreciate your Guo Qitiao, but now this committee is serving the purpose of anti-China You look at that Gong Xiaoxia, Han Lianchao ran up to speak and opposed China, which is okay. Just like Gong Xiaoxia, you Han Lianchao worked in the US government system and Congress. Gong Xiaoxia is a civil servant of the US government. What happened to the civil servant? It is more corrupt than the Communist Party. Which one has no corruption behind BBG’s decision? How many people have business with the Communist Party of China? Does the Communist Party corrupt him? Do Americans not corrupt the Communist Party of China? Why did the Americans come to China to seek corruption? The corruption in China also has the share of the United States, and even more exaggerated, he said that the Voice of America represents corruption within the American system. He corrupts with China and with other countries. It’s not unreasonable to say things, we can’t say that the Communist Party is all bad, at least this persuasion is reasonable, then I’ll say first, you work every day on VOA, every day you fight Communist Party and anti-corruption. Was he corrupted? You can't find out if BBG is corrupt? The Communist Party is now arresting you, Xiaoxia. You are afraid, so why are you in the United States now and you can't handle this matter? Can you get it done, do you have confidence, and get BBG's real money corruption out of the people who kill you? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Not easy, to be honest! I am confident but not easy. What should I say? If you think about it, the Chinese government said that in the past 30 years or so, with this little amount of money, it really got the world done. Then in the governments that are related to China in the world, think about this In the case of the Hong Kong bookseller, the Swedish ambassador was caught in the middle. This is the ambassador. The ambassador should best represent the interests of this country. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You interrupt me to tell you, Sweden to introduce, I tell you this is why I want to tell you. On the issue of the Communist Party, to be honest, too high, the same problem, do you think it is a big deal to get a Swedish ambassador? I will reiterate with you again, I have talked to you once, your evil and corrupt capabilities of the Communist Party, and the power of silence. You have no concept like Zhang Jing, no common sense, do you know why? 
 
When I was in Beijing, I had a seven-star hotel. Several of my friends had a hotel. Like the original China Club on Chang’an Street, it was originally the Sichuan Office in Beijing. Later, I was named by Sir Deng Yongqiang of Hong Kong. Brother, I’ll be there in China. I’m also a member, and I often go there. It has rooms in it. In a courtyard in Sichuan, Deng Xiaoping was the favorite place to go back to Beijing. Who is it? The British ambassador to China, the German ambassador to China, and the Spanish ambassador to China, that is, the European ambassador to China basically brought their lovers, or prostitutes, in the club, because there are no Chinese people, and they are very comfortable, and The facilities inside are beautiful. 
 
Well, when I often meet people in the room, the old house next door creaks and then creaks, and then I find out how the people from the Ministry of Security are here? Even as a waiter, wearing waiter clothes, I said it was funny! How did the woman dress like this, I said "How do you...?" and then gave me this gesture. Later, it was after I triggered it specifically, I said, why are you here? Say "Mr. Guo, we are performing the task, I am on the spot", this is called the spot, this is our spot, I understand, what is the spot in Beijing? It is the point of doing bad things and performing tasks, the point of the Ministry of Security, Beijing has tens of thousands of points, and later tens of thousands of points. 
 
I remember the Swedish ambassador most clearly. The former Swedish ambassador followed a girl who was 30 years younger than him and engaged in it there for the first time. Then the police came in and "cracked" him and caught him. This person has been obedient since then, this is too many stories like this, I am wondering, why is the Western world now taking such a thing seriously? This is not a thing at all, but I want to say that this is how you know 419 off-air. You know Zhang Jing that you can’t even put it on the table now. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I will not say that I have discipline. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You have discipline. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I now------ 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Your discipline is that you can have discipline, but think about the power of the reason I asked you just now! It can stop you from broadcasting, you can be fired from work, you have to kneel down, and you have to continue to let oriental surgery not let you go. Is this the United States or China? China can't do it. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Let me add one more sentence. After the intervention of our lawyer, Dongfang later told him to let him go for the operation. This is the first one. He didn’t say he didn’t do it, so he said his body... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
But he blocked 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, the lawyer came forward, and even without a lawyer, he could not stop the first one. Second, you remember at the time, you said that I tried to judge people like thieves for two days. I asked a very important one, and you gave me a very important answer. I have been pursuing this, that is, you said that there is a layer of Pangu Guoan's? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
It's still there! 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, I also asked someone to go to Beijing and say that you go to the elevator to see which floor you can’t get to. I’m afraid it’s that floor. Look at the situation in that floor. Because I have been investigating this matter, what does Guoan do with it? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I’ve been there a few times, but they adjust it at any time. For example, you can’t get there, not inside the elevator. The main building in Pangu was not known by many people when you designed it. You can check it on the Beijing official website. , Maybe find some. It can be said that it is one of the most complex buildings in the whole human race. There is a special elevator for me, that is, I go straight down and go straight up, there is no button in the middle, because you can’t open it, all the doors are sealed. , Directly to the first floor of my office, then there are five floors at the same time, the deepest five floors below are seven meters high, seven meters high you think about how high, we are about five meters here, this has six Meter. 
  
Seven meters high, below the whole, our first floor is 3600 square meters, almost 40,000 feet, do you know? A whole floor, a big space, and the whole shop going north. Do you know how big the building in Pangu is? We are 770 meters long from north to south, the building is 500 meters long, and the entire bottom is 500 meters continuous. On the third floor of the basement, a large part of the space is owned by the Ministry of National Security. 
 
When you built it, we didn’t finish it, you took it away, and then you pulled the device in. This big screen, and the most exaggerated thing is that we have not capped for many days. instrument,
Then I went to the top of the faucet, and that place was the only place I hadn't been to. With this monitor, I heard that there was a cow in this place, and this place has satellites for heaven. 
 
Why did I know this interest when it happened? There was a bicycle race and a marathon at the time. There was a problem upstairs. This race couldn't be done. Why? You have to rely on this live broadcast. The other one is surveillance. It was said that the surveillance project was too strong at that time. The whole building was sealed. I was sent out. It was said that a lot of technicians were doing work. It was Beijing. The Municipal Security Bureau and the Ministry of National Security jointly manage with the three ministries. So the office building of the security department below, because I have been there a few times, I have personally seen them at the Kunlun Hotel, the Great Wall Hotel, and the old Beijing Wangfu Hotel, and there is one called Beijing Security Bureau, called three places, called the hotel At the office, he called the hotel office and arranged security in the hotel. The security manager, the surveillance video, the undercover room, did this. This one is sure that the hotel stays here have facilities, there is an international supervision of the United States and Europe, why? People in the eighth, seventh, and sixth innings of the United States often come, so it is not a joke! 
 
So when Liu Yanping met me, he said that he said Wengui! You Pangu have made a lot of contributions to us, you are your own, we are also in housework, we are our own. I said if I could let myself go and let my family go. So let me tell you, this means of the Communist Party is completely unknown to everyone. Until now I have seen the US military and FBI intelligence. No one really understands this system. He doesn’t know that behind every super hotel and project , Chinese entrepreneurs have no choice, you have no control at all. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I talk to many people in the United States Congress, and many members say that. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I will add one more sentence here: ask him to check China, what is it called? It’s called air defense project, air defense project, civil air defense project, there are every building. We have about tens of thousands of square meters of civil air defense project under the Panquanhe Jinquan building. The air defense project is basically the security national intelligence in these places. You Keep talking. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, that was my question at the time, because last time, I was in the middle. After the dozen hours we talked about, I didn’t take notes at the time. According to my promise, I couldn’t take notes, but, I remember very clearly. So I have been chasing back a lot of questions, including, Liu Zhihua’s case, I always think that is particularly important, and there is this monitoring system. As far as I’m concerned, Pangu is here, on the first floor, I’m in What does the first floor do, does every room have this monitoring system, Pangu has a commanding height, is it also used to monitor Beijing. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Not just Beijing, definitely not just Beijing! Very large network. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Then there is a bigger problem, which everyone in China monitors expects. Hong Kong and Taiwan, especially as you said, many hotels in Hong Kong owned by Guoan. They are in the middle. Their surveillance situation. I have worked in the US government department for a period of time, and I have worked in many international agencies. The US government has some designated hotels to live in. I really want to know those inside, for example, the Hilton Hotel in Hong Kong. In these hotels, there is no monitoring equipment of the Chinese government. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Must have. Let me give you the simplest example. Yesterday, I watched a program in Taiwan called "The Political and Economic Cannot Be Closed." It turned out to be a political and economic program and was shut down. Mr. Peng Wenzheng, and Mr. Huang Yuehong's program, to connect with him, they are really naive! 
 
Let me tell you about the monitoring program just now, which year, June 6, 2006, Liu Zhihua was arrested. We returned to the construction site in August, that is, when the Ministry of Security was operating underground, I went down Once, when I went down to the basement, the civil air defense project, and some were not civil air defense projects, they were made of copper walls and iron walls. At that time, they required a strength of 1.8 meters to make it. I also drank too much. 
 
You know that lens, I told them: When you saw that our master Li Zuyuan designed this building, he didn't even know that there is this space inside this building. They said: Just now Li Zuyuan just came home and got off the car. What do I mean, he came to Beijing? He said: Hey, look, slap, and switch it out. At the time, Mr. Li Zuyuan’s earliest office was in Hongguo Building, Dunhua South Road, Taiwan. Because the Hongguo Building was received by the government, he moved to another office building. I don’t even know where. Li Zuyuan came down and got on a new BMW. He bought a new BMW, a new BMW, and then recorded the video. Mr. Li Zuyuan left. 
 
At that time, it made me goose bumps, and it turns out that Taiwan is also under your supervision. Oops, he said: Mr. Guo, you pretend to be unintelligible. Let me see. When the United States opens, the southwest corner of the White House, which is the southwest corner of the State Department, is in a car, that is a car, a It seems that the car that sells something should be a wide-angle lens, which is not fixed. However, it is very clear that the wide angle to the White House is about 180 degrees. I know that it is clear! And there are sounds, not just images, because the monitoring has images, no sound, real-time, and I don’t know at all, (Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: whose voice?) is the sound of the scene, and the sound is like a radar, where is it scanned Well, he can settle down and there will be more voices. 
 
The most memorable thing was when I was Bush Jr., the one who we know is the west wing of the White House, the part of Congress, the pillar, the pillar, and the dotted enlargement, they said: Mr. Guo, this Someone inside was talking about our China Olympics. What do I mean to you? The White House went to Taiwan, and then let me look at Japan. What county is Japan, I forgot, Thailand, Australia, Russia, Norway. I took a look: all under surveillance. 
 
Therefore, I will tell you about Huawei again, and I told me at that time that our Huawei will be anywhere in the world in the future. Whoever you want to see will see who you are! I have a deep memory. So you guys are still talking about whether you can be monitored and monitored, then
so easy! Why did HNA buy Hilton Hotel? Why HNA wants to be at the highest point in major cities around the world, he is not here to monitor you coming, it is an operation center. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
If the White House is in the southwest corner, it must be facing the west wing of the White House and the administrative building, 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Yes, right, right on the side of the road, he was in the car, so right, 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
If this is the case, the White House Administration Building is facing the side of the White House. Do you know whose office it is? National security affairs. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I don’t know, I really don’t know, don’t leak it, Zhang Jing grabs your handle 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don’t leak it, it’s public, it’s not a leak. The White House is the office of the National Security Council. I know that the west wing of the White House faces the wall. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I never said that, for the first time! Today, comrades, I said for the first time. So now I meet with many friends in the United States, I will say all the issues to this day, I said 419, 419 has awakened the United States and the West to understand the evil of China, but 419 has not played his greatest role to this day, just just Start! You see that now you still think so, you are fired, you think so! The Communist Party has wiped you out and can direct Zhang Jing to the present. Others can fire you, prevent you from undergoing surgery, leave you dead, and almost break your family. Are you still discussing the law here? Too high, too Naive. Just like Mr. Peng Wenzheng in "The Political and Economic Crisis", sitting there for the first two days, discussing what the Communist Party wants to do, you have been killed by others! You have been detained, are you still discussing there? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
The Communist Party breaks the law, I will never break it, 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You are wrong, what is the law, the American law, he is breaking the law, not you are breaking the law! Taiwan is monitored by him, it is he who breaks the law, not us who breaks the law! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
So the Communist Party broke the law. But, speaking of the White House West, I remember very clearly in front of it, there are probably 4 cars, and there are a total of four trucks for sale. That can be found, I will go back, I will go back today, 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I really said it for the first time? Never said that, hurry up and stop running! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Hurry up and tell the US government, don't let him run, just four trucks in total! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
It must be a truck, why do I know that the girl next to me told me. She said that if you look at us, you can go up and sell any of these trucks. I said you were so powerful. At that time, it was the Olympics. We said that we are now in Tibet, from 600 in the past to 160,000, 600, 160,000! This Tibet, so when I went to Tibet, I paid special attention. I said you 160,000 monitors. The soldiers were with me when it was safe. They went to see various places. Tourists could not go. Then I asked her, how do you monitor, how are you? It turned out that they used the fire brigade, which temples do not need fire protection, and I was keeping fire protection with you, so the fire came in, where the fire wanted to be, where all the lamas, the places to go to the toilet, the place with the most cameras! That's really, I read it, and it's more! You can’t watch it, you want to watch it now, you’re interested, I’m really annoying you, it’s annoying for a while, his camera is facing the toilet, the most concerned is your genitals, the peeing urine, like the waterfall, you It's disgusting when you look old! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
why? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Why do you know? This is too valuable, and the person doing the intelligence will know. The core of any one in Tibet is that you take off your clothes, the characteristics of you, and the things you hide! Another is your sex life, this is really a core secret of a person. 
 
So many foreigners call in the bathroom and take a shower in the bathroom for safety. Even the leaders are like this. In the first two days, a member of the committee said: Mr. Guo, you know that I go to China. I call and I always call in the bathroom. I do everything in the bathroom. I laughed, and I laughed quickly! I said that the Communist Party is most concerned about the restrooms. You can ask a hotel in Beijing called St. Rigos. Bush went to interview. Bush visited and lived there. It was completely sealed before going. And the American hotel, presidential suite, before he went to seal The entire room was checked by the US government for a long time, but he forgot, he really didn’t know. This is what our Mr. Gao Hui did. The upstairs and downstairs, the people and equipment are all amazing figures! I ran it once from Israel, and the plane took back a new set of equipment for use there. 
 
So, neither you nor friends in the United States, the Western world is evil against the Communist Party, you are too wrong! I don't understand! Look at Xinjiang, I said the earliest, tens of thousands, 200,000, 500,000, and closed prisons, concentration camps, I said the earliest, until now, that Inty, I can’t change it, he didn’t say it, he took a look I said before, I said it was 2 million, but now hundreds of thousands have been released. This is a credit for the hard work of all of us, and you have also made a lot of efforts. 
So what I want to tell you, Xiaoxia, no one understands the evil of the Communist Party. You are still too naive, and you still doubt it! That has already happened. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I have no doubt about this, but we are naive and we are naive. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
But now it is not a blessing to you, it will be a disaster, you have been fired. You are not a blessing when you are naive, and you will be killed! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But no, here is a very important thing, let's not talk about my own things first. In the past two years, as far as I know, the U.S. government has learned more and more about all this matter in China, especially the monitoring system in China, (Mr. Wen Gui: Not at all! Not at all!) For Huawei, Don’t say no, it’s more and more. I’m talking about a relative term now. So what I want to ask is, you are in the middle, you provide all the information yourself, what kind of contribution do you have in the middle. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I don’t think you can contribute but you don’t think the Communist Party wants to contribute. You know the Chinese system too well. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
No, the United States does not mean that your contribution in China is an understanding of China by the US intelligence services and the US government. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
After that, history explains it. Let me tell you, the simplest thing is, when I met with you last year, I said to Guo Baosheng, the bad guy, who we are? Hotel,? The hotel is not the most cattle hotel in Washington. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, I know. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So is the most powerful and expensive hotel. Seeing him here is bad luck, and I was blind. In the first few hours of meeting, I had a meeting with some departments. I told him at the time that no one said about the Huawei incident.
He even asked me what happened to Huawei. I tell you that not only Huawei, but if you can’t find the back door for Apple’s mobile phone, it means that you’re having a big deal with Apple. 
 
I tell you, as long as all electronic products processed in China have backdoors, they all have loopholes! Huawei is PLA! It is not what works PAL, what cooperation does it have with PLA. It's PLA, it's three, it's three under Xishan, its headquarters, and Xishan's three guest houses are the places where it has the most meetings. The underground project is its project, you didn't get it. 
 
Let me tell you one more thing, all private entrepreneurs in China have no choice! Your building; your life; your money; your business; was kidnapped by it. Why are you a thief, what do you do? Moreover, if you believe that the Communist Party says, it is fair to say, including Ma Yun, that you are cooperating with me now. Including Ren Zhengfei, you can know everything. No, you are still an outsider. You are still an outsider physiologically, and you are even an outsider psychologically. You are just a tool that I use more smoothly. I'm stuck with you legally. 
 
Inside, you have to join the party. To put it bluntly, we have to sleep in a bed together. You have to have sex with me and contract AIDS before I can believe you. Carried a gun, went to a bed, and then have common money, we have prospered together, gambled together. Also, I know your secrets, you can’t know my secrets! I have to know everything about you, but you can’t know anything about me. I watch too much, when Ma Yun went to the meeting, it was like a dog! That’s all. Which one goes in, what does Li Yanhong look like? All straight, in his life. Whoever enters bends in. 
 
What I want to say to you, the degree to which Chinese entrepreneurs are exploited is completely indifferent to the West. Second, the West used spies and kidnapped and forced use, and it was completely unconceived in the period of conscription and Hitler 1932 to 1938. On the other hand, it has no idea that the Chinese Communist Party’s physical penetration of this kind of spy and technology in the West and the United States is national action. 
 
Just like your VOA, I want to say this, Xiaoxia, you don't have it at all, you foolish you! I said what concept of VOA, it is not your business, it is not your VOA business, this is the business of the Communist Party and the US government. It's not a Zhang Jing. Behind Zhang Jing is Zhang Jing's father, Zhang Jing's mother, Zhang Jing's wife, and Zhang Jing's old leader, how many layers! He and Liu Yanping couldn't get him to lick buttocks. The grandson of Liu Yanping's grandson could lead him. Why Liu Yanping was excited, and expressed the power of silence, he was excited to threaten me, you don’t fight me, you can’t fight. He doesn't believe that he can fight anymore. You see the arrogance he talked to me. As soon as I said, could the Chinese be given legal freedom. He laughed a lot, what are you kidding, you talk to the Communist Party? He was so arrogant, he only said who, your Zhang Jing. Then when you look at this question now, I tell you Xiaoxia, it is not so simple. Behind it, I believe your safety, including today’s Mr. Dongfang, you are not aware of it. Including our Tiger Chen, Li Su, your safety is definitely not as simple as being expelled. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Let me just say that, I made this decision long ago! Anyway, I couldn't run out of bullets. At that time, we received a death threat letter saying that we should use bullets to deal with us, and then everyone said what to do. I said what to do, you ran it, you can't run a bullet, just go. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
This is certainly not done by Wang Qishan and Meng Jianzhu. He is not willing to do this, nor is it done by Wang Jian and Chen Feng. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But now I have to ask you a detailed question. At that time, you told me that Liu Yanping said that I told you before this morning. You will definitely not be able to broadcast it, and it will be interrupted. When did you say that? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
The first time I said, it should be after you came, you have arrived. On the evening of the 17th, the evening of the 17th was his morning time. He told me that it could not be broadcast. Then on April 18th, when we talked on the phone again, he said: My wife and my daughter will come. Then don't broadcast this live broadcast. If you can't broadcast it, you won't be able to broadcast it. Moreover, I do not want to cause much trouble for coordination because of this matter. Did I not have this recording released? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I know there is. I am asking again in person now. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
But said Zhang Jing is after our broadcast. How about, you can't broadcast it! What about our silent power, that Zhang Jing is our man. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Let's start with a time, because this time is very important. As for me, for the first time I received a voice from VOA, suggesting that VOA never issued an order, but the leader of VOA first suggested that 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Who is leading, do you say this leader, Zhang Jing? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
No, he is not my leader. Now is the level from the director to the deputy director. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Amanda was traveling. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
He is not traveling, he is traveling in Africa. But he directly intervened in this matter. The first time was on the afternoon of the 17th, more than 1 o'clock. I received a call saying that your interview is not worth two visas. Two visas is the Voice of America has two visas in Beijing. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
This time means that when you arrive, Liu Yanping, in our evening, when he told me in the morning, he said that you can’t broadcast, under our coordination, what can’t you broadcast, what are you doing, help increase coordination Resistance. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
So, the second time, on the 18th, the Chinese government and the embassy kept calling VOA threats. You have to bear the consequences. In this way, I said that time is very important. At that time, when I was in your house, I received a call from the leader here. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Another leader. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It’s just leadership. I don’t say people’s names, they know who they are. The leader said, you must cancel this interview. I was going downstairs from you at the time, and there was an interesting detail. This was the first time I said that. I came down with Dongfang, I never called them separately, so someone would prove it. Come down with the East, we can't find a place to call, because your front office is too small to be noisy, let's just say, let's cross the street and call Central Park. Followed by a team of Chinese, followed by a team of people, not one two three. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
That was too much. At that time, it was in my house. Now, that is what the relevant department told me. I rented it upstairs, rented it downstairs, in the opposite building, in the Panshiyi building, and the other one under renovation. Building, the building of the hotel. No less than twenty or thirty people are monitoring me at any time, and now my skin color has changed. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
At that time, a group of people followed me to Central Park. In order not to let them hear, I just walked with the two of the East and played all the way, so the situation was a bit nervous. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Why didn't you call the police back then? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
What kind of police do I report? I talk to the leader. People in the back may say travel. I have no way to call the police, the police will not control, and I have no time to call the police. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Our colleague Wang Yanping, went out in Central Park, followed by a meal, this treatment is quite high, you know. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I made it very clear to the leaders at that time, they said you must cancel, and I told them that there were no doors, no. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
It must be cancelled. It is the fact that your VOA does not punish or investigate. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
They said that we have the right to cancel, we must cancel. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Right, why do you do this? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Right to order. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
What about press freedom? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
They did not give orders, they said to suggest you cancel, and I said I would not accept this suggestion, there was no door. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Yes, you have the right not to accept the suggestion. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
So, after it was over, I quarreled with them all the way, and they told me that in your interview, they did not know what I interviewed. You are not allowed to talk about any issues related to China's spying, security, and the Ministry of National Security, and no issues related to corruption. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
This is exactly the same as Liu Yanping said, the tone is the same. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I said at the time, how do I do this, I interviewed Guo Wengui, I said at the time, where did you come from, how much money did you make, and talk about your family situation. I said, goodbye is all right, I said this is wrong, the Chinese government has already spent. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Ms. Xiao Xia, everything she said does not represent the stand of this station, she is solely responsible for it. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Ah, personal responsibility, personal responsibility. I did this at the time to represent VOA's position, right. But later, when I called all the way, I wouldn’t say some of the details in the front, but, when you come back, do you remember that I did something? I came down to say to the people present Turn off the phone for me. Because they called and threatened someone. I said no one should answer the phone. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I remember very clearly, shut down! Don't answer the phone at all, especially rude. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
There is no way, really nervous, you know. Why do we still have the situation that we know later, and if I can't find me, I look for the editor Zhang of the program, which is Bao Shen, who is responsible for editing. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Bao Shen is really handsome and nice, this person is really nice, this person. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Tomorrow 15 minutes, you will cut off Gong Xiaoxia, you make up 30 minutes of video, our colleague is really amazing! At that time, I said no. The arrow must be sent on the string. I cannot do this. Later they said, you don’t know Gong Xiaoxia, she was cut off there, he said she didn’t know. I don’t know what happened. I’ll cut it off. 15 minutes. You remember that I started the 15-minute opening with the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs speaking. This is the opening. The news is 15 minutes, and 15 minutes passed. He was able to give such an order, not an order but a suggestion. They dared not give an order and said a suggestion. Just cut off 15 minutes and make up a different one. We are still interviewing here in Hulihutu. I don't know about it. The result was rejected by Baoshen. Baoshen said that this suggestion cannot be accepted, and this suggestion is very unprofessional. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Baoshen is too great, Baoshen, the Chinese people will always remember that your greatness really is. Mr. Dongfang, as well as our Mr. Li Su, and the beautiful women behind have never been seen. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
There are more exciting things below. As a result, I called again at home in the evening. At this time, my phone was switched on and I could call. There are a few of them, three of us, three of them, and a telephone line for six people. Their leaders are saying, you have to cut it off. We don’t have any doors, so there is nothing to say, nor doors! They talked to me, and I said this because the first hour is always live, and the first hour everyone talks about things in real time. The next two hours are social media, social media is another stand, we are here to talk, they say 15 minutes, 30 minutes, they will come back and forth with me, I basically have no door, no door, door nor! This is basically what it says. Noisy noisy until later. Noisy was a mess, but the East was anxious, because the other party had one who could speak Chinese, so he spoke in Chinese. So you want a mobile phone line, the other three people, three of us, six people talk at the same time, then two languages, what kind of quarrel is there, a pot of porridge. Later, I said no, I had high blood pressure. I really have high blood pressure. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
That day I knew you were really exhausted. You and Mr. Dongfang are the same because you are connected to the 17th and the 18th, and the two of you are the same. I can see the ups and downs. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It’s not over yet. After listening to the evening, let’s talk for the first time and report the inside story for the first time. After I finished, I said that I had high blood pressure. I said that I couldn’t tell you anymore. You said that I didn’t care about you, and then I said I would go to the hospital. 
 
They didn't let me go to the hospital yet, I said it's a must. Because the government stipulates that I want to go to the hospital, he can't help but let me go, and then I took two tablets of high blood pressure medicine, yeah, I can't do it anymore. At this time, my phone turned on and said "Red Pass" when it was on! 
 
The news from Beijing at the time was that the red wanted warrant meant that there were reports that the arrest was about to take place. I said it was broken. Our machines are all at your house. I said what should we do about it. Then we hurried to a meeting and said that if Mr. Guo Wengui was arrested tomorrow, how would we deal with us this hour, the program would deal with it? Out. Standing downstairs, whoever stands here, who stands there, because everything is on TV. Then I immediately gave me a reporter station. I don’t say who they are now. As long as they know who they are, a reporter at a reporter station called and said: Don’t do anything tomorrow, you will chase Interpol to me. Did this happen? 
 
I also leave a message to Interpol, until about two o'clock in the middle of the night, because we are going to make a new broadcast plan, in case you are caught, we will make a new Interpol, and then Dongfang went to the office in Beijing. What did the Ministry of Foreign Affairs say? The press conference of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was all doing this. At two o'clock, I couldn't do it anymore. I still had to sleep for a while. I got up again at four o'clock. When I fell asleep, I woke up again, and I called the reporter from the foreign reporter's station there and said, "Is this the case?" What happened to Europe? Interpol replied: No comment, we don’t know this! I said Interpol didn’t know? Where are the reports all over the street? So hurry up, hurry up to you at 6:30, dig you up and say: Hey you know Hongtong? Because no one of us knew what red wanted was. The red notice was not actually red wanted, but
Later, when you remembered, you called your lawyer and came back to tell us that Interpol is an NGO that does not have the right to enforce the law, so we are relieved. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Our lawyer is very good. The lawyer who called you that day is now prosecuting the entire Interpol on my behalf. He told me a particularly critical sentence. This is also the first time today. He said that he said to me that his classmate was Meng Hongwei’s director of Interpol’s office, equivalent to a secretary. The director of this office is the most critical person in the operation of INTERPOL. The chairman of INTERPOL does not necessarily participate in everything, but the director of the office of the secretary general participates in everything, it is his classmates. 
 
Then he said you, he said this, he asked Meng Hongwei privately at a meeting in Spain, saying that they wanted to sue Guo Wengui, how should we deal with it. As a result, you know that Meng Hongwei said something to him. Look at him and say why do you ask about it, what do you do about it? He said that my classmate was Guo Wengui's lawyer, they had already sued, sued in France, and then sued in the United States. Then Meng Hongwei didn't say anything. When I came out of this venue, I told this person next to me, you told your classmates not to sue, Guo Wengui's matter will soon be over. 
 
What does he mean by ending? He said: The end is that Guo Wengui was captured back. We must get him back. So is this the message of Meng Hongwei at the time? This person privately lite mysteriously, and also invited my lawyer to meet again on an island in Spain. In a few months, this person asked to see our lawyer again, do you know what to say? Say, this Meng Chairman, Meng Hongwei said: Beijing, there are differences on Guo Wengui's matter. It seems that the Beijing government now has various opinions about Guo Wengui's matter. Someone had to force Meng to trick Guo Wengui to Europe at all costs, and then arrested him. 
 
Because I am "Lantong", "Lantong" just can't find it, that is, you get it when you come, even if I get rid of you, I don't know if you take it away, you just announce it, Internal notification. Then the other one is that Guo Wengui may be killed. This "Lantong" will be taken down. This is the second time. 
 
What happened for the third time is that we recently officially sued in France. It's a secret to sue Wang Jian and him at the same time. It's a leak today. I'll talk about it in two days. Then there was a change in Meng Hongwei's heart. You see he was arrested. Meng Hongwei told him to tell you this classmate, Guo Wengui's things have now had a particularly great impact on the Chinese Communist Party. The only way for Guo Wengui to survive is to explode quickly Ah, bursting the top material, Meng Hongwei wants to use me, you know? We don't care anymore. We don't care about this red pass. Tell your classmates. Guo Wengui's only explosive material that can survive, high-level materials, quickly broke the news. What do you mean, he wanted me to report that the Communist Party was destroyed and he was rescued. The result was caught. For the first time, it was unexpected today. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
This thing is very, very interesting. It means that I was very skeptical about this Hongtong at the time. I said it was wrong, because the first thing was that it was about 12 hours before our live broadcast and before the press conference of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Did your reporter ask the question you talked about again; the whole rush is equivalent to giving VOA the person who wants to stop broadcasting that day, saying that this is a criminal wanted by Interpol. Then that but they are very interesting, and now I also broke the news to tell the truth. 
 
It’s just that (Wen Gui: It’s all a lie). No, (Wen Gui: I’m telling the truth now) It’s not that I haven’t said this detail. The VOA leaders just called out while they were very pregnant. We stopped broadcasting, but we didn’t dare to stay. There was no word that we could only broadcast this today. I was broadcasting now. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Why do people not say a word to stay? In addition to these politicians, the old gangsters are clever. The key to Xiao Xia, you don’t look at the essence. The Communist Party has arranged it. This is the Communist Party’s faction. Even Liu Yanping used my security phone to call me, thinking that you would not be able to record on my security phone, nor would you dare. So he left the handle, and the result was arrogant. 
 
I'm talking to you now. Let me tell you something, Xiaoxia. Comrades, including Xiao Xia, mentioned Meng Hongwei when he came the day before yesterday. Is Meng Hongwei corrupt or not? How much does Meng Hongwei have? I said, comrades, there are too many people, but everyone in our system knows, how much power Meng Hongwei was at that time, do you know? Do you know what Meng Hongwei’s previous position is? His post is called the Deputy Minister of Public Security in charge of traffic management. 
 
Let me give you the simplest example. In Beijing, 20 years ago, before the WTO, before 2001, if a Beijing A88 card is a card that Beijing cannot manage, a ministry card, a standing card, 1 million RMB, you have to get a card for the money. Then, after 2011, you can't get one million dollars. Let’s not talk about this production. As many brands as there are tens of thousands in Beijing, let’s not talk about it. 
 
National traffic management, exhaust gas inspection, car inspection, including 4S stores, including the entire traffic management toll and coordination of the Ministry of Transport, Meng Hongwei is not exaggerated, as long as a sign is 1 billion yuan! Only too many ministers and deputy ministers of the Communist Party of China have this power. Just like what I said about Wang Baoan caught by the Ministry of Finance, he also has three trillion yuan a year, which is the power of provinces to build expressway branches. Three trillion yuan, 10% is three hundred billion yuan. Only the vice minister of the Communist Party and the Communist Party’s system give you such great corrupt powers. Then Meng Hongwei wants to say that it is like playing with tens of billions, that is like playing. Only Communist Party members, 99% of them are part-time workers, he does not understand. 
 
A traffic control bureau in a province or a city, just tell you how to get a driver's license school, and how much money do you get by opening a driving school? Take money for free! Second, how much does it cost you to give you a power in traffic management and certification? I tell you that I used to have a classmate. In Yantai, my hometown, Shandong Province is far away from my home. A small department of the Yantai Traffic Management Bureau, the whole family has immigrated and is now in Japan, worth billions. You Meng Hongwei got tens of billions that is too pediatric. Which one of Meng Hongwei is not greedy? Everyone knows that I am Guo Wengui in Beijing. I know everyone. I will not go into details here. They are all my friends. 
 
Every year, the Poly auction, the Christie’s auction in Hong Kong, the Sotheby’s auction, the book is brought first, drink with me to see, how is this? this is not bad! Xi teared it off, not to mention sticking it, it wasn’t paper, he tore it off, this is good. Eh! What about this? this is not bad! Hey, tear it off, not stick it. This is good, um! This is good, tearing a few articles, the person opposite took it immediately. Eat for another time. Coming here — set it up, eat with me, in my courtyard house. People brought large boxes and small boxes two or three hours in advance and put them on the cabinet. Uh... The leader is carrying his hands, ah... this, this is your photo. Oops! This picture is-that "Jade Seal", this is the "Cui". This is good, it looks smaller than that photo! Not bad. Hey... Wengui, this is for you! Seeing that my little girl served very well, oh... this is for you! Which is not millions? At least, they are hundreds of thousands, not tens of thousands of dollars, millions, tens of millions. It is just a deputy director and a director of a traffic control bureau. 
 
What is this concept? Let me tell you, you know the corruption and evil of the Communist Party, it is simply too high. That is, the standards you have asked are too high, and you do not understand them at all. This is what I said again, when "419" followed you in Central Park, they influenced you and destroyed you. He even used narcotic drugs to turn you into Kim Jong-un's brother, Kim Jong-nam. Infiltrating you, influencing you inside, and keeping you from writing, this is the normal way of the Communist Party, the standard posture, you don’t even know it is breaking news. 
 
Where is the core news now? I want to tell you Xiaoxia, today we talked about the "419" thing, you have to send it to your heart, you really need to be aware of a problem. Let the US government and US taxpayers serve you, not the Communist Party. Let them find out who exactly needs this interruption. I think this is more important than anything. What I just said is the process. Who needs this kind of "stop broadcast"? Why do you need it? What are the benefits for the US government? Who needs to "discontinue broadcasting"? Why do you need to "disconnect"? 
 
Just like Meng Hongwei, three poses-the first one, you can't do without catching this kid back, don't join in this matter. The second one, Guo Wengui, the boy, has differences within the party, so I want to use me! The third, use me directly-hurry up! Explosive materials, explosive materials, high-level materials. He said at the time that Wang Qishan and Xi Jinping exploded. He needs it, why does he need it? He was threatened. Then I ask you, "Voice of America", who needs to expel you? Who needs to stop broadcasting? why? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
We have been pushing the US government to investigate, because we personally do not have the ability to investigate. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Therefore, in American movies made in the United States, Hollywood blockbuster, family members were killed and murdered, one person destroyed a country, and even saved the world. Can't this happen to you? Can't it happen to Mr. Dongfang, Li Su and others? So, you are the party of the guns! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
My thing is very simple. For so long, I have been pushing the US government to do all these investigations. By now, it should also be said that when a federal government employee is fired (dismissed), it is the federal government's 2.6 million employees, plus 6 million contract workers. When did you do this? Need the "New York Times", "Washington Post", "Los Angeles Times", all the major newspapers in the United States, they want to say bad things to all the major newspapers. I still have to talk to them about who has such a big need, who has the ability to fight, and can mobilize all this. How long do you think the New York Times has spent on me? "New York Times" I also broke the news for the first time today, saying a person. Say one person, one thing, "Ji Si Dao." "Ji Sidao", not "Fu Caide", is a big reporter. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
I seem to have seen him? 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
You have seen him. Ji Sidao interviewed me that year, in 1989... 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Millions of fans, right? I have seen the couple. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
Very very senior reporter. Ji Sidao called me and was very, very angry after hearing about it! Talked to me. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
 Very justice, right? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
Endless, endless, endless. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
what! Injustice, right? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
The conversation was very long, for an hour or two, I talked to my lawyer for an hour. Talk to them one by one. I called them by phone, he was so angry! I wrote an article saying that I would expose this matter. After that, after writing the article, he said that the article was published on Thursday. The article appeared on Thursday. As a result, who did he call on Tuesday night? Called Director Amanda and said for two hours. After it was over, he said: No! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Hey... 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
Is it interesting here? this matter. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
This Amanda eloquence is better than you! Amanda still has nuclear weapons! Haha! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
If you take a look at the Internet, his eloquence is not good, and his English is not necessarily better than what I say, so to speak. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
What is he talking about? speak Chinese? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
Of course he speaks English, Chinese can only be a la carte. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Her husband is doing business in China! Very big business, there are absolute conflicts of interest! All the conditions for "blue and golden" are met. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
Great business! That's when others investigate slowly. I don't have... I only have the ability to give "public" information to the US government. Finally, when it comes to some, where is it? "Voice of America" ​​419 interrupted this matter. Not just for me, or for the East, for your situation. After "Voice of America" ​​419 is discontinued, five reporters will be dismissed, and all five reporters will be put on hold. Who is it for? For the most anti-communist in VOA, these two are Bao Shen and Li Su. We know that Baoshen is the host of the program for many years, and we all know it from a political standpoint. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
These are the two people I really like. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
Li Su-host of "Decryption Moment". "Decryption Moment" was the first time I went, and I talked to them about what to do. Finally, I told Li Su to do "Decryption Moment" and Li Su would do it. It’s just YouTube, which is over 40 million clicks on the tubing. Not to mention "Voice of America"'s own webpage, there are countless others who have been taken away by others. That audience is the hottest show in "Voice of America" ​​ever. 
However, after doing it for more than a year, it was decided to cancel. I went to fight, I said that this can not be cancelled, they said that even I have to withdraw. I can't do this show anymore. why? Too much manpower. How much is three or four manpower consumed in total? You spent a lot of manpower on dozens of people. Too much to consume! 
 
It turned out that people in the Chinese embassy found "Voice of America" ​​and said that they have opinions about the show. Why is this show like this? People in the Chinese embassy looked for me. Others dared not look for me, never looked for me, and did not deal with them. Then, after it is over, then I say that "Decryption Moment" cannot be withdrawn. Can I do it on my own time? My Amateur Next, I made eight episodes of amateur. After it was over, this time it was, that day, it was very interesting to say the details. Li Su was not supposed to go to work that day. He should go to work at eleven o'clock. He woke up at six in the morning and said that he still had to go for such a big interview today. Especially responsible, he managed the Internet, and he went. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Haha! Hit Li Su. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
He hit, he was shot while lying down! After coming here, it turned out that when it was broadcast for fifteen minutes, it was the leader who came. You have to pull the cord, pull it out immediately! He said I can't pull it. This is a broadcast event. This is a professional reporter. Professional broadcast reporters can't pull out or pull out! Is this a technical accident? Then he said that unless you give me a written order, this time, I happen to be, because I have to go down with them every hour. The phone just came to me, they asked me to pull the line! He is now writing a written order. As a result, at this time, I received a written order, that is, you want to cut off immediately! I took a look at this matter. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Explain that there is this written order. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
There is only a written order at the broken moment. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Just break that moment? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
Cut off that moment! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Is this given by the director, or by whom? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
I will not say anything about this. There is discipline inside, and I will not say who gave it. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Zhang Jing? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
I don’t say, I can’t say this. After receiving this written order... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Certainly not Wang Qishan! Is this certain? Hahaha! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia:  
I don’t know. At that time, you remember...you just said...I just walked in, and I told the East, this had to be cut off. why? If the East does not declare that we cut off, and he does not make a statement himself, then it is equivalent to deceiving the audience? You tricked the audience into saying that it broke off with a snap. You said it was a technical failure, not our own. 
 
Therefore, Dongfang said that for some reason, he did not know the reason. Today’s interview is over, that’s it. Therefore, there is a real interruption event with a head and a tail. It's not that there is a technical failure in the middle. 
 
Then later, they had leadership, and they blamed me for saying, why don’t you announce it, (yeah) don’t let it become a technical failure? I said it was not to deceive the audience? I didn't deceive the audience, so I went in and I gave orders, but it prevented them from cheating the audience by pulling the wire. Li Su was shot while lying down. Finally, he blamed him on the head and ordered him to be expelled. Said he refused to execute the order! 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui:  
Dear comrades! Speaking of which, I have to say that this is very critical. Ms. Xiao Xia said this just now, and I passed it again in my mind. Remember, today’s theme! The live broadcast of the entire 419 at that time was the premise and occurrence of the interrupted broadcast event. As you already know, Mr. Dongfang and I first contacted many times. Finally, under the three conditions I requested, three hours must be broadcast live. They cannot be cropped or edited. Ms. Xiaoxia is the main interviewer. Then, I arrived in New York on the 17th to prepare for a live interview at my house. Moreover, Ms. Xiao Xia made professional preparations and interrogated and tortured me for 18 hours! Then, more than a dozen hours before this later live broadcast, they suffered from the leadership of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Chinese Embassy in Washington, and inside and outside their stations, including the ABC on VOA, including At the time, the director of the station, Amanda, made various requests and stopped broadcasting and shortened the interview. Even limited to all interview topics. 
 
Finally, before they were about to be broadcast live, everyone saw it. At that time, they gave me... The Chinese government issued a "Blue Notice" called "Blue Notice", and they announced it was called "Red Wanted". Including Lu Kang, the spokesperson of the Chinese Ministry of External Relations-"Kuo Yu Kang". Twisted Kang's answer, a few hours before I was interviewed, this happened, China jointly shot. At the same time, Liu Yanping persuaded, threatened, and traded, and I stopped being interviewed. 
 
In addition, everyone should also see a more important fact. Just now Ms. Xiao Xia provided one, and the truth that I didn't really know in the past. At this time, they went out and were asked again and again. Either stop the live broadcast or stop the interview by deceiving the audience, saying that it is a technical failure! 
 
Another one, you asked Guo Wengui several times during your interview: "What you say represents you, not your stand. Use this to transfer and waste time. This is not Xiao Xia’s own career and what she wants to do. It is her stand. The inevitable requirements put forward in it, everyone should not misunderstand Xiaoxia. 
 
In addition, the heroes Li Su and Hu will pay a huge price for this. It was Li Su who refused to unplug the communication cable and power supply; Hu Cheng refused to stop their live broadcast, they would carry him out unless they were carried out; it was Mr. Dongfang and Ms. Xiaoxia who suffered from Central Park The spy of the New York consulate followed (probably), and was repeatedly threatened by the phone, asking for various reasons to stop the live broadcast, or shorten the live broadcast, or divert the line of sight. 
 
Therefore, in the past, I suspected that Xiaoxia, Dongfang, and other people would rely on facts as the basis for their comrades, and stop guessing! We have turned our comrades-in-arms into our enemies to meet such overseas sealing actions as Wang Qishan, Meng Jianzhu, and Sun Lijun, which safeguard the interests of thieves abroad. It is hoped that comrades-in-arms can see the context and truth of the event through today's live broadcast. Including Leopard and He Ping also master the huge resources inside VOA, and keep abreast of the whole VOA interview to live broadcast and the whole dynamic in Wengui's house. 
 
At that time, I thought that Mr. He Pin was jealous and envious of the center to control Wen Gui's interview resources, to achieve his greed that increased his attention and controlled this news source! Now it seems not, I want to be a doubt. Mr. He Pin, I hope you can answer, why are you so aware of the VOA’s actions at that time, including the threats made by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs against them, is this true? You answer it! 
 
Ms. Xiao Xia told me some of the entire context today, I think it is very very good, and then Ms. Xiao Xia continued to say, thank you! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I haven’t. I would like to talk about the statement. The live broadcast said that the VOA’s habit at that time was according to professional requirements: every time the interviewer broadcasted live, he said it at the beginning [only on behalf of the interviewee. Opinions do not represent our opinions]. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Say too much, say one in tens of seconds. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
No, no, finish listening first. According to the habit of saying it one by one end to end, the direct command under the Voice of America at that time: I said each question once, I only said it three times. At that time, the VOA command said each question once, thousands of orders! It’s just that the leader said, “Don’t be afraid to say more, you say it every time.” I thought it was nonsense? But I said one more time, one more time than normal, and three times. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So many comrades asked: "Ask what Xiaoxia Dongfang has repeatedly asked this question, and take that video out. Ask the comrades to question this question. Do you have the right not to listen to the orders of VOA? Mr. Xiao Xia and Mr. Dongfang are not their own TV stations. He is a VOA TV station! And there are some silent forces behind the Voice of America thieves in Zhongnankeng, Beijing, and this longevity road in Beijing The Ministry of Security, the Shanghai Bureau, and Hong Kong have several command centers to direct this matter. It is not their own decision. I hope that once again, everyone will not be entangled in this matter. 
 
Another comrade-in-arms asked many questions today, asking Ms. Xiao Xia a personal question: "How many boyfriends are there?" Ms. Xiao Xia said this morning: "Resolutely not answer! This private question", because what? Too much! You can't finish the question, I said it was a dozen. So I will not ask personal questions. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
This is "satisfaction with one's own heart", how about himself... 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Such beautiful beauties, can you think about being idle? Is that free? Not free! I am busy 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
You have expressed your intentions with your own heart several times, and I will not say anything else. Hey! I still want to answer a question about the so-called "Most Favored Nation Treatment". This question is quite important. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I just wanted to answer this question. Before you talk about it, I will summarize it for my comrades. There are probably many people talking about Xiaoxia. At that time, I would like to apologize to Xiaoxia. I will correct it. During the live broadcast, I said that you "helped the Chinese Communist Party to lobby" the WTO in 2001 and 2000. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Have you made any mistakes? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
No, it's completely wrong. This is the fact that helped them testify in Congress that they should support the "Most Favored Nation Treatment" for China. This is what Xiao Xia did. Why did it give the "Most Favored Nation Treatment"? What did you think? Please listen to Xiaoxia. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
This is the case, after Tiananmen Square in 1989, at that time...because "Most Favoured Nation Treatment" was such a situation, "Most Favoured Nation Treatment" was an incorrect concept and was actually a normal trade relationship. Without "Most Favoured Nation Treatment", there are a lot of tariffs! Just wait and say, basically the United States and Iran also have "Most Favoured Nation Treatment", you think this is the case. 
 
Well, in 1990, after the Tiananmen Square Incident, the United States proposed to cancel the relationship with China's Most-Favoured-Nation Treatment. Then I have a lot of opinions, because President Bush opposed it at that time. Many people in the business and political circles in the United States opposed it. Of course, many people also supported it. What is my opinion? I think I am half of Hunan and half of Cantonese. I grew up in Guangdong. For me, keeping China open and keeping China’s private economy have room for development is crucial to China’s future. Freedom is crucial to the happiness of the Chinese people. 
 
I also have the principle of being a person, never doing what I ask others to do. For example, if the Chinese people want to eat hungry, if the economy is bad, then people will rebel first. First, I don’t want to be hungry, nor do I want to be hungry. The second rebellion, to bleed, I am a person from the Cultural Revolution, I do not like this breaking news action, I do not like to participate, then I also do not like to ask others to do it. 
 
So at that time... because the business community only needs to support "Most Favoured Nation Treatment", the business community needs to speak for itself in that situation. That is to say, to speak with a different certificate holder, then I am an old counter-revolutionary. Perhaps young friends in the United States may not know that at that time our big-character newspaper had many translations. The Sinology in the United States was quite influential at that time. Some people in the business community looked for it and said, "Can you talk about this? "Because I said my point at a seminar, I said: "After the Tiananmen Square massacre, we must never punish the Chinese government by punishing the Chinese people. For an authoritarian government, the most powerful The thing is that the door is closed, and they can do whatever they want inside! I said that China's door cannot be closed, China's reforms must continue, China's economy must continue to develop, and the United States must continue to develop economic relations with China." Then I said to me, "You said so well, can you testify in Congress?" Then I said, "I can testify on this issue, no problem." Therefore, the Senate and the House of Representatives of the Foreign Affairs Committee of Congress at that time asked me to testify separately, and I used the identity of this Chinese dissident to testify to express my point of view. 
 
I still hold this view. I don’t think I can ask our people in the US. I am an American now. I have no right to ask the Chinese people to suffer the hardships to achieve a certain kind... such as overthrowing the Chinese Communist government. Communist government. Old Guo is against the Communist Party, but is it not against the practice? I’m all against, I’m all against, I think
This government is really a vicious government, but for me, I think the Chinese people are particularly 64 years old. I am not willing to let them pay for this progress. This is my point of view. 
 
It was China's permanent "Most-Favoured-Nation Treatment" and the WTO that I did not participate in in 1996, so I went to lobby. I made a two-year certificate only for "Most Favoured Nation Treatment". There is a very important thing here: "Most Favoured Nation Treatment" is reviewed every year. When it is reviewed every year, Congress will see all human rights and these issues will be reviewed. 
 
The WTO is another matter. It is an international agreement. When I was in the WTO, I could still find my articles from that year. I was very opinionated and very opinionated. My opinion is that WTO China is committed to open media and open news Freedom, even if you have been open for ten years, and you have been in China for such a long time, China has not opened up press freedom, but it has become stricter. This is completely illegal under the WTO, and I think the United States has not done so in this regard. Now that the Trump administration has begun to do so, it has been connivance to China. China continues to control the people in this authoritarian way, so this is completely different from what it said. This was my standpoint at the time, and it is now my standpoint. 
I think "Most Favoured Nation Treatment" is to be maintained. WTO is another matter. Some people have mixed him up and said that if someone has other opinions, I can’t help it, but this is the fact. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Dear comrades, Xiao Xia has spoken very very well just now, because everyone knows that China’s former Deputy Prime Minister Wu Yi is the most important promoter of the WTO. "Most-Favoured-Nation Treatment" is also her most important, and she manages this Chinese trade and world trade. I know a lot of details, including what Ms. Xiao Xia said just now is very real and objective. 
Another one I want to talk to comrades. That is to say, Ms. Xiao Xia and us, Guo Qi, include what many of our domestic systems insist on now. Anti-Communism is not against all the Communist Party, it is against very few thieves. I think the Chinese elite and the vast majority of Communists are good people. Is there no choice, no way, or caused by various reasons. This is what I think Ms. Xiao Xia first separated the Communist Party from the Chinese people, and the Chinese government from the Chinese people. I think this is very, very intelligent. This is a. 
 
Another issue of most-favored-nation treatment is that it is not for Ms. Xiao Xia to give you a testimony, that is impossible. And she gave it to testify for so many years. There is also a lot of people who have gone. Isn't he suspected of being a thief with the Communist Party? And only Xiaoxia was suspected? 
 
What is the nature of another MFN status? It is the people who bring together. And we must not be like Wang Qishan and overseas democracy activists who bully the thieves-the Chinese people can eat grass. Eat grass for several years. Then thieves can also resist the West. The people must not be kidnapped. Let the Chinese people live a poor life to safeguard its bloody regime. On the contrary, the richer the Chinese, the stronger the Chinese, and the faster the Communist Party will perish. This is inevitable, so don't change the subject. 
 
Another thing I think is the most favored nation treatment, I know a lot of people. Many people don't think so. And in the first two days, Mr. Bannon asked me, "What do you think of Ms. Xiao Xia?" I said, "I have opinions too! I have opinions very much! I doubt her too! But the truth is definitely not like that. "" Other American government officials asked me. I said at the time: "The facts are like this, I know." So now you see, there are many people asking. Just sent me a lot of saying: "Guo Wengui is against Communist Party, Xiaoxia is quite communist. One is suing Hu Shuli, and the other is praising Hu Shuli." Say you always praise Hu Shuli. I haven't really seen it. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
When did I praise? 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Say you praised Hu Shuli. Say you said Hu Shuli is amazing on your show. Expose the Communist Party. Is this the case? 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
When did I say this is. It doesn't matter. But I am, but I have my blog on Caixin. Not because I have my own blog, Caixin is more than going, I have no opinion. It’s all this. I didn't take the manuscript fee. nothing much. But for someone I know, I just ask about the CCP's publication of these things in China. I tell you, I call on everyone to publish something in China. Someone accepts us, and I want to occupy every inch of news land. I’m in China and I’m just talking about China. I can’t post. I’m talking about the United States, but I can’t post an article because of your blessings. 
 
The second is that I am very emotional that the freedom of the press has narrowed in the Chinese world. If you think about it, I'm thinking about 2004 and 2005. Let's say that 15 years ago, the appointment draft was lined up with me. Various magazines in China include some Hong Kong, Hong Kong and Taiwan magazines. Needless to say in the newspaper. I lined up the draft. I can't publish an article until now, because these positions are blue-golden by the CCP, according to Lao Guo. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I totally agree. When you ask these questions, this comrade-in-arms, I will not say your name. I would like to ask you a question, why can Boxun.com be opened on the mainland? Why can Ding Jing Net be opened in the mainland? Why can the multi-dimensional network be opened on the mainland? Hu Shuli is not kidding. That is Wang Qishan's lover! Hu Shuli won the Press Freedom Award in the West! And following Xi Jinping, I gave Xi Jinping another original and I found it again the first few days when I was searching for documents there. 
 
Another one, this Hu Shuli, I found more things that I didn’t say. Hu Shuli has nothing to do with Li You. At that time, Li You supported how much money behind her. What to do overseas, overseas calls the pro-Communist core power outreach. She will command Xi Jinping. How deceptive she is. I want to tell you. 
 
Ms. Xiao Xia used Caixin media, but she was not talking about your Caixin. She didn’t go for Hu Shuli. She is anti-communist, giving Chinese people a legal system, nationality, freedom and understanding of the West. If Xiao Xia has the ability to send a few articles to Xi Jinping's office, you are tall! Why not. Does it have to be like Boxun? Does it have to be like a mirror? Like that multidimensional? Can it be like this? 
 
Dear comrades-in-arms, don't look at the problem. Don't call it the modern explosive cultural revolution. Our breaking news revolution cannot be turned into a breaking news cultural revolution. To oppose everything, smash everything, and doubt everything. this is not right. I firmly refuse to accept it. How did Xiao Xia follow Caixin, how could they write a few articles and kiss Caixin? How many people write articles in Caixin! How deceptive it is. It deceived the United States, deceived the entire Chinese people, and deceived all the Communist Party. It was a vulture and fell into the rock. It really is that it is a power hunter, a power vulture. I was treated as a prey of power. 
 
Why is this to Ms. Xiao Xia? What did she offend you? Did you know her at the time? Have you seen her? 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
it does not matter. This is all trivial. I haven't seen it. But one thing is that I call on all the friends who can write articles, and all the friends who can speak, to occupy every inch and every inch of China's mainland. I can't do anything when I stay in China. I criticize that the Chinese government will definitely not be able to log in, but I will talk about American democracy and American freedom. At the time, I gave a series of this media lectures and WeChat lectures a few years ago. Once a week, it is dedicated to American-style democracy, American-style democracy, and American policies. Then I knew I had three people under my hands, and the parents of three children were listening. He said, "Hey! Do you know this... He said... If I say that, I work with her." 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
It is advertising time. Please don't go away. Haha! 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Not anymore. All are now blocked. My WeChat has also been hacked, so I can't find anyone on WeChat. It was all hacked. But this very, very important thing is to do everything possible and do everything possible to let the Chinese people understand the world and the world to understand the Chinese people. I also write articles in English newspapers, which is for this purpose. 
 
Well, this is the era of self-media. I will tell you a very important and important thing. Everyone should remember to speak to you. If you want to make an impact, you must not say that I want to fight against the Communist Party. While dealing. China is not theirs, China is the Chinese people. Then speak to the people. Like now I believe that Mr. Guo is also talking to the Chinese people. This is very important. I am also talking to the Chinese people. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
This is why I said to my comrades-in-arms, if anyone can create another 419, you are a Communist agent. I am willing to be interviewed by you now, and I am willing to be 419 by you. good or not? You start by saying what you did. Many people are evaluating, I ask what you did. 
 
419 This matter is not possible if Ms. Xiao Xia said that she did not know that there was a risk. Not only does she know that this matter is newsworthy, but she is also aware of the risks. If she hadn’t noticed the risks before in New York and only realized the value of news, she could judge on the evening of April 17 and April 18 that this was an interview with huge professional risks. If she didn't know yet on April 18th, the red pass was sent on the morning of April 19th, she can say that Mr. Guo I can't interview here, because the red pass was sent, she can push it away. 
 
And if her power of silence comes from the Communist Party of China, not to mention Zhang Jing and Liu Yanping, that is, a Chinese clerk is her leader, making a phone call to execute the order, the Communist Party cannot interview, and Xiao Xia does not need to interview. If Xiao Xia collected its money, Xiao Xia was investigated into the American prison. It has not been arrested as late as Meng Hongwei. She entered earlier than Meng Hongwei. 
 
So today from 419 to today two years. Meng Hongwei, who sent me a red card, went to prison, and his wife also broke the news. At that time, Meng Jianzhu, who sent me a red card, did not enter the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China. The vice-president of the country was originally not a candidate. Wang Qishan did not always serve as a standing committee member and became a deputy vice chairman. Then Sun Lijun went to Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan, and did not become his minister of public security or minister of security. 
 
Then all the news that HNA proposed at the time of 419 fell from the kingdom of hundreds of trillions of trillions. Now that Wang Jian has been killed, HNA has become a rat across the world. Wang Qishan could not save it. At that time, the Wang Qishan family Yao Mingshan, Sun Yao, Guan Jun, Liu Chengjie, Liu Xinyang, all of them were revealed and revealed. 419 At that time, the overwhelming majority of all the words to be said were basically spoken, and the purpose was achieved. And the most important result is the 419 live broadcast and the VOA Ms. Xiaoxia, Mr. Dongfang, Li Su, Hu Cheng and those beautiful women, the girl army team. 
 
If we deny the 419 live broadcast today and deny Xiaoxia these people, please tell comrades, you are not my comrades. If Guo Wengui did this, then I would not deserve to be your comrade in arms. If you don’t have this conscience, I’m sorry I hope you will never talk to me about it again. I no longer accept. 
 
Today, if Ms. Xiao Xia said something and put it in front of the facts, you are still discussing Ms. Xiao Xia with me, I'm sorry. I never pull black comrades, this time I will pull you black. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I am very curious because I did not read what was said. I'm all black. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You don't need to watch. Because I have been in the past two years, I have said in various occasion groups, don't challenge Xiaoxia, don't say anything. You have your rights, don't affect me, I have endured for two years. My wife
We have been married for 34 years. She wants to tell me this bad thing every day, saying that I have to divorce her in two years. This can't stand this, because the facts are here. 
 
And Xiaoxia paid so much for it. Anyone with a conscience and a common sense should think about how Xiaoxia is the same party as Hu Shuli, how Xiaoxia is the same party as Wang Qishan, Meng Jianzhu, and Sun Lijun, how is Xiaoxia a blue-golden person of the Communist Party, Xiaoxia How could the US government not investigate Xiao Xia's crime, she was blue-golden, and the lawyer who investigated her was met with me. The investigation of Xiao Xia can be said to be rare in American history. It was completely influenced by the Communist Party using the greatest silent power. Our blue-golden and silent forces in the United States have not defeated Xiao Xia. Our comrades now want to challenge and defeat Xiao Xia. This is the deepest poison our Communist Party has planted in the minds of our Chinese people, all of whom are Red Guards. If you challenge again at this time, I hope you will not contact me anymore, I beg you! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But the most interesting thing about this is that I don't care much. I am a relatively honest person. I have been a counter-revolution since I was 17 years old, and I was pulled to the stage and fought many battles. I remember a detail. They said that when they were fighting me, they bowed their heads down, and for half a day, I sat down all the way, and finally sat The head is not lowered on the ground or lying on the ground, so the head is not lowered, and it is a stubborn person. But what's interesting in the middle of this is how blue-golden it is in the US government, because the Voice of America is in our business.•••••• Once I’ve got that, I say “American-style dual rules” and put it in the administrative investigation In the future, the first thing to do is to go to Beijing and ask someone to investigate us. The person invited from Beijing is said to have a very close relationship with Beijing senior Wang Qishan, called James McGregor, which is Mai Jianlu. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
The China-US Student Union is still Europe and America. . . ? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
President of the American Chamber of Commerce. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
American Chamber of Commerce! 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
The president of the American Chamber of Commerce, just how much he wants to spend or not, so he came to the United States, from Beijing to the United States, to Washington, to investigate our affairs, and to give us his Chinese people, is Chinese, Chinese citizens, write to us. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Chinese citizen? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
His Chinese citizens wrote to me and said: Hello, Xiaoxia, we are going to ask you all questions in detail. I told him, and I replied to him, I'm sorry, to you, Dr. Gong, that is, I'm sorry, you can't call me Xiaoxia, you can only call me Dr. Gong, and then I say you have any problems. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Yes, you said that doctorate question, which doctor did you in that year, Dr. Harvard. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
My doctor of Harvard in 1995. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
That Xiaoping Chen, what about Mr. Xiaoping? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Xiaoping is not a Ph.D. of Harvard. Xiaoping is from Harvard at the Nieman Foundation. Where did he get it in Wisconsin? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
How long are you (that)? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I was at Harvard from 88 to 95, and I graduated in 7 years. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Graduated in 7 years! How long was Xiaoping's doctor? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don’t know, I don’t know. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
What about Mr. Wang Juntao? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Jun Tao is from Colombia. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Colombian. So after your generation came out, they all like to take doctors. What is the meaning of this doctor? Xiaoxia, a 419 off-broadcast will work better than your 100 million doctors! 
Dr. He, it's all bought for money? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Who told you to pay for it, I have a penny. . . 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
$6.5 million, you see that I just bought. . . 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Let me tell you, let's talk about this history. I can reveal this history. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
As far as I know, I tell you the truth, I have. . . Specifically, I can’t say that Wang Enge’s two children, his son’s daughter-in-law, were recommended by our fund to go to Harvard. They were really Stanford, and they went to Harvard for the top few in college and university. . I can understand this. This American school is corrupt, and that is not ordinary corruption. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
When I went there was no money. I told you how I wrote my application letter to Harvard. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You include Chen Feng, and went to Harvard to give a speech. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don’t care about you, but tell you when I go •••••• 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Are you a real doctor or a fake doctor? You talk to everyone. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
How did I go when I went, I wrote to Harvard that I said that I had never received it.•••••• I didn’t graduate from elementary school, I only went to the third grade. In 1965, our family was cleared back home. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So my education level is higher than yours. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, but. . . 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I am close to graduation from junior high school 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But I said when I took the college entrance examination in 1979, I was the first in Guangdong Province. I was admitted to Peking University. I went to Peking University to study for 7 years. Then I wrote to Harvard and said, I said we •••••• 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Because you are the only one in the exam, no one will take the exam. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, the college entrance examination in 1979, yeah 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I've taken the first place several times. Why? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yes, but the letter I wrote to Harvard at the time said that although I had such an educational background, but I graduated from Peking University, I was one of the best in China, one of the people, this way, but I have no money, even the application fee I can’t pay it, and I don’t even have tolls. I can’t come if you don’t pay. The scholarships I received were from Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Columbia. So, this is, it was still a bit courageous, was it not. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Ms. Xiao Xia's learning ability and understanding in life, and her judgment of history and politics, are definitely not the ones on the TV screen. I am Guo Wengui. I am not a fool. I don’t have any time to waste a second. My respect for Xiaoxia comes from my heart. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
thanks, thanks! 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
This is no ordinary joke. Another one, I have seen her like this, because the people I know since I was a child are about 3 to 4 generations older than me. I am a person born in 70 years. Well, Ms. Xiao Xia is the one who I have seen that has true feelings, real fighting spirit, and real ideals, and she really loves learning, and she knows this history, this world’s culture, art, very, very much. 
 
Moreover, there are two of Xiao Xia's body. I think that the Communist Party's residual poison is the least on you. Xiao Xia easily says nothing about other people's bad things, not to say, I really understand the virtue of Westerners. Second, Xiaoxia is really a loyalty. This loyalty is not the loyalty of rivers and lakes. This righteousness is Chinese Confucianism
I think that what will be better after the dross is the emotion between people. For Li Su, for the East, for the Tiger City, for all these people, it is from the heart. During the two years I talked to her, the most important thing is that he is worried about these people, worried about Mr. East, worried Hucheng, Li Su. I heard that they are all second and third marriages, and several children. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Hey, let's not talk about it. Is this a private matter? 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Hey, I said the wrong thing again. Look, we like to talk about private matters. If you say this thing, you have to change the problem and people are professional. So, no change, I'm sorry, so there are several boyfriends in Comrade Xiaoxia. Sorry, I'm kidding. So it needs help. 
 
This is an elder sister, elder sister, and other people in the life of Xiao Xia, I sent it from the heart. When I went to Washington, I felt I had to see Xiao Xia. It can be said that among the Chinese, I think that Xiaoxia and Han Lianchao are two people. From the heart, I am absolutely 100% trusted, 100% respected, and 100% I think they are very naive people, naive, very naive! 
 
Another one, they are sincerely anti-communist, 100% anti-communist, 100%. So to say that other people I don’t say doesn’t mean I don’t think, because I don’t say, I don’t want to let you because I affect you, because you still have a lot of considerations, these two people certainly can’t return to the country, also Don't think about it, this is your country. So dear comrades, before the live broadcast today, Ms. Xiao Xia and I said the day before yesterday that Xiao Xia said that we broadcasted the first 30 minutes. The time should not be long, and then we fell down. We may have just broadcasted for about 20 minutes now? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I look at the time 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I really didn't watch the time 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I didn't watch the time, 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Heaven, heaven, heaven 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Long talk, long talk 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
At 11:11, four bachelors, you have no boyfriend. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Hahahahaha 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
11:11, 2 hours or 3 hours? 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
2 hours 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
2 hours 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
After 2 hours, we started at 9 o'clock. 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Wow, this, we are like this, let's talk for another 20 minutes, let's finish 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Okay, I just had to first •••••• Give us a head and hit a stick, say we’re naive, I say now, that’s what I want•••••• 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I said that anti-communism is very naive, especially naive. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I hope that Chinese people in the United States will be more naive. Because what the United States is like, is that an environment here allows you to be naive, Americans are naive, and there is a dumb face on the face. Like we have been in the United States for a long time, our faces are stupid, why? This thing is very enjoyable, because in places like China, I look at Chinese children and American children. The maturity of the Chinese children's faces and the world makes me feel very distressed. American children?•••••• 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
totally agree 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It’s totally Chinese children, look at that face, you’ll know at a glance 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
As if everything is happening in the world, he knows better than his grandfather and grandfather. 
  
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It’s not necessary. I think it’s a long time to come to the United States. I think the longer you come, the more naive, you don’t have to think about it, then this matter •••••• 
  
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Speaking of which, let me tell you something. I heard that Mr. Cao Changqing, his wife is a Ph.D., many people like his couple, very academic people. Mr. Cao Meng is also very naive. You can see that he is naive against the Communist Party now. I heard that the two of them have hope for many of us who have come out against each other, but they were very disappointed after the encounter. 
 
It is said that some people meet their wives, and they are enthusiastic. But, these people from our country think that you need money, and I have money, and it is in a high position. The thing I hate the most is the virtue that the villain gets the ambition and the villain gets the money. 
 
You can see a bunch of people in China called Xu Jiayin, wearing a Hermès tie, Hermès H, holding her belly and taking a step, then when you go, this is showing off everywhere, say me••• ••• I hate to show off my wealth the most. I must show off my wealth now. The purpose of showing off my wealth is to let the Communist Party know that I live well. Without me, you will have no food to eat, and you will have no money. You are all gangsters and farmers, and we are nobles. No. I want to prove it to you. 
 
But in my heart, I hate those who show off their wealth. What I hate more is that they have a little money to look down on people with ideals. For the first two days, after I heard Mr. Luther tell me, I felt very uncomfortable. After that, Luther said what happened, and I saw Mr. Cao and his couple. Oops, I only understood that Teacher Cao doesn't seem to be in contact with the Chinese recently, so it may be sad, and it hurts a lot. 
 
But what I want to say to Mrs. Cao is that Mrs. Xiao Xia, the Chinese and Chinese children I saw overseas, many people, I tell you, their children’s market, and the so-called maturity, and that The so-called profoundness, ignorance is actually more than ten thousand times more abused than the mainland children. This is my sadness. 
 
In addition, there are many children in China. Of course, they were damaged by the Communist Party. Many of them are great. Another thing I want to say is that there is no problem with the ethnic Chinese. Please do not doubt the ethnicity in any case. Another, the greatest nation and civilization of all mankind, let history prove that the Chinese are no problem, and China's culture and politics are out of order. 
 
Again, very few people do not represent all of us Chinese. Another one, that rich upstart, treats everyone with disrespect, or the kind of money that is forgotten, and it is not for everyone. I want you to know that in the sea
In addition, I hope everyone believes that there is no problem with the Chinese race. Have confidence in the Chinese culture. Another thing is to make sure that all Chinese people overseas cherish this freedom and beauty, and let the children live their children's lives, don't become so mature. What do you mean by being naive? It is because you are too naive to the Communist Party, and the others are not representative. I will correct it completely. Comrade Han Lianchao was too naive to the Communist Party, and all others were naive. He was lustful, and... 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Ah, don't you, don't... But here, when I was a kid, the Communist Party educated me. My family has gone to the countryside to counter-revolution. I grew up reading ancient verses and growing up, so the most important thing for me is... 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Was Zheng Qi Song written by Mao Zedong? 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
There is righteousness in heaven and earth, and miscellaneous manifolds. Below is Heyue, above is Sun Star. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Haha, I really will. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Yu Renyue said that Haoran, Peihu stuffed Cangming. The imperial road should be Qingyi, Hanhe Tuming Court. Seen at Shiqiang Festival, one by one weeping. Wen Tianxiang. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Is Wen Tianxiang a Communist? 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Ah, yes, not... 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Fortunately not a Communist, haha 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
But one thing is very important. Rich and rich cannot be prostitute, powerful cannot be bent, poor cannot be moved. This is especially important for us. When we come to the United States, wherever we go, this is all rich people. For me, wealth is •••••• 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You are poisoned by the Communist Party. Every day the Communist Party propagates like this, the result is just the opposite. The rich must be prostitute, and the poor must be surrendered. Wen Tianxiang has become Wen Qianxiang and has been communized. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Correct. There was a child that day, we chatted with her, and the little girl was chasing her dream, I said something. She said, am I too foolish? I said that after a long time of living, people will know that what is imaginary is real, and what is real is virtual. So, for famous cars, houses, money, etc., you live to say, 50 or 30 years later, you said that I drove too many good cars, what do you have to say. But what dream I chased back then, all these virtual ones are actually real. In the end, your life was very solid, and you did it at the time. When I was a counter-revolutionary, I was too imaginary. I am very happy now. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Xiaoxia, you are right. You know that when you came here the day before yesterday, a few big brothers gave us a meeting. I really don’t know. 
 
You said that we engaged in Guo Media because 419 was interrupted, and then Twitter shut us down, and YouTube shut us down. We have nowhere to go. The Communist Party forced us to have nowhere to go and refused to let us speak. Then I'll have Guo media. 
 
You don’t know now, I will tell you about Guo Media one day, it’s so funny. You don’t even know how many things are inside. I’ll tell you about it. It's really interesting, I never thought about making money. On the day you came, those big brothers and other bosses asked me to meet, and I hated him especially because we were friends for so many years. As a result, this critical moment took me away. 
 
When he came, he said that he would exchange their company's equity with our Guo Media, 10% cash, 10% equity. I haven't figured it out yet, I have missed a decimal point. I said that your company is probably only one billion, 10% of one billion is also 100 million US dollars, yo, a lot of 100 million US dollars, I said oh, Guo media is worth so much money? 10% is 100 million, then I will be 1 billion US dollars. As a result, I made a mistake. He said I'm sorry. My company is very big. I can't say the name. The very big one is my father on the live streaming platform. He said that we are 18 billion, and 18 billion does not include this asset. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
The decimal point is not over, haha 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
He said you never counted, I gave you 1.8 billion. Then I am worth 18 billion. More important thing, he said Mr. Guo, I believe what you said two years ago, he said that after the VOA broadcast was interrupted, when we met and said that we wanted to start a media, I wanted to get Ding Jing to do it, He Pin did it . I really want to invest hundreds of millions of dollars. My money is really on that account. I can let He Pin see it now. The money is still on that account. This fund is called deven foundation, and I just wanted to invest in it. 
 
After planning from this family fund, I wanted to vote for He Pin. He Pin said that he needed to borrow a sum of money first. You said that you would lend me a sum of money first, and then you invested 500 million dollars. What is $500 million? Guo Wengui, you can't talk, you can't have control. I don't want control. Then you don't want to participate, ask me to take hundreds of millions of dollars. This is who Chen Jun and that person call Chen Xiaoping away in every conversation. Little Zebra, why do I call him Little Zebra? I won't let you mix in eating meat and go away. What did Chen Xiaoping say, I don’t know? How could you know that the horse never knew about the meat eating by lions and leopards, and the meat eating by jackals. So you Xiaoping, you... 
 
Say you, your good buddy is just too naive. what's the result? Forced us out, we do this Guo media. This is an empty thing, the result is so profitable, so valuable. The thing we want to push next, the software, cannot be said now. One of them is one of them to help us do. After they surveyed my entire Guo Media, you can see the data I sent that day, and now you can see immediately, how many Guo media watched, how many online, an increase of 146,000 people per day. Every day, every day. For the first time I came to see 146000. He said to let you go on like this, you got the Guo media. 
 
So what he said about you really made me want to understand that the Communist Party's blockade of you is the biggest threat to you, when you are the least valuable. But it is precisely that you give the Chinese people a hope and the media they must watch when they come out. This is your value. What you said just now is very correct. We Chinese people need to understand that what is false is ideals and feelings. Actually, it is more effective than real cash. You are right. 
 
Another one I told you just now, everyone has a very big opinion on you recently, saying that when this committee was just opened, Luther wanted to interview you but did not interview you, so why did you accept the Der Spiegel interview? You are good with Xiaoping and good with Zebra. You both don’t eat meat, but why do you want to be interviewed by Der Spiegel? Everyone is very bad, I am also very unhappy, very unhappy. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It's very simple. People's Daily will accept all interviews and hurry up. That is where the impact is great. Luther's interview... 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You mean Luther has little influence 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
The Lutheran platform has little effect, and I will tell you the truth. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So you are because of the problem of large and small influence, you chose the mirror. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Of course, it's not about impact size. The first one is the appointment of Ding Jing. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Luther committed suicide today. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don't care if he commits suicide, but I have a problem. I have an advice to Luther. As for media, the media should be professional. When you say something, don't say everything. If everything is said, something will be wrong. For example, I am so big in the Voice of America. I can. I have power. I love to say what I can say there every day. I only talk about the United States and talk about American things 5 ​​minutes a week. Why? I have to say yes to these 5 minutes, and I have to say it right. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
This was the program I chose for Miss Xiaoxia. I watched "Xia Xia Watching America", my family also watched "Xia Xia Watching America", my colleagues also watch "Xia Xia Watching America", and several of my American girlfriends, absolutely A clean girlfriend, a confidant, who often drinks afternoon tea, read "Xia Xia Watching America". So this is the reason, you go on. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
So now as a media, when it comes to Guo media, it is very important to do the media thing down, because I believe that the CCP’s rule will not grow, even if the Communist Party of China is still in power, but there is always Zhang Youchi . We experienced it in 1976. After Mao Zedong died on September 9, 1976, on October 6, less than a month later... 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Is Mao Zedong dead? Is Mao Zedong dead? I don't know. It seems to live in people's hearts forever. You are wrong to speak like this. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Haha, this matter is changing very fast. This year is the 30th anniversary of the drastic changes in Eastern Europe. We saw those regimes that seemed sturdy, and they collapsed instantly. At that time Javier said something very... 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
The Communist Party fell faster than it, rest assured. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
At that time, it was the Communist Party. Havel said that Hungary took a few months, 5 months; Poland took 1 year; we spent 10 days. It fell in 10 days, he was really 10 days. How did those Communists fail? In the end, I couldn't do it myself. I had no idea. Especially famous is, how did the Berlin Wall fall? You have to see how the Berlin Wall fell. when
The time is that the story of that day is particularly interesting. On the morning of November 9th, West German Prime Minister Kohl visited Poland in the morning. Wavinsa said that the Berlin Wall would fall in two weeks. West German Prime Minister Kohl is fat, right? Then he laughed, his stomach trembling constantly. He said hahaha, you are too young, you are not sensible. You don’t know that this can only be done for decades, you are too young. That night it fell. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Hahahaha 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It's that fast. So I think the most crucial point of this kind of rule is that the people of those countries have been experienced in 1976. Everyone knows that something is wrong, and everyone knows that Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution was a set of things that harmed the country and the people. Well, when someone stands up and pushes things, the four people help and the people of the country automatically celebrate, and no one organizes. You look like the previous parades in China were all party organizations, government organizations, and unit organizations. At that time, I was in the factory, no one organized, we organized dinner, go to parade, what a happy thing. So this thing, the people have feelings, the people have common sense, the people know. At present, this Communist Party regime is so corrupt, so rampant, so retrograde, I believe that the vast majority of the people in the country have a lot in mind. Therefore, this downfall is an instant matter. This downfall does not mean that I may have decades of history. Reform is a long history of decades. Downfall is not, it is instant. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Reform is always on the road, anti-corruption is always on the road, the tone of the Communist Party 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Reform is on the road, the development of a nation is always on the road, but 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Because I have been cheating, hehe~~ 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
No, but it's not easy to deceive people. It's a trick to deceive people 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Ha ha ha ~ to be capable 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Because everyone, in fact, I think that sometimes the most powerful is the intuition in everyone's heart, you think this is wrong. How do you think you are the most fundamental way of ruling the Communist Party? It is to cut your intuition and his so-called theory, this thing. That is to say, you say the party is a father and mother, you think he is not kissed but
It was he who taught you that, when the people connected this intuition to this understanding that day, he fell. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Ms. Xiao Xia just talked about the things that she just said in her life, and I felt the same when I communicated with him. This is no restraint, no effort, no history, like me, a person without culture, I don’t know who Wen Tianxiang is, not a Communist, I don’t know what Hafir is, I know Hafir, I thought Ha Phil is a relative of Wang Qishan. So, dear comrades, this person can't just look at other people's saying, he must watch him do it. Ms. Xiao Xia sent this feeling from the heart just now, not to mention what she can compile, and we do not have any rehearsals. 
 
What I want to say again, Ms. Xiao Xia, the Communist Party, you just said that this is a core issue. For so many years, the Communist Party of China has implemented the closure of the country. Afterwards, it implemented a comprehensive blockade in the spirit, propaganda, and the Internet. Every country remembers that there is no economic reform and opening up in the country. Economic reform and opening up are completely absent, and the door of thought is truly opened, that is, the network and information exchange, and the freedom of people’s beliefs is completely absent. 
 
Even after the WTO, China's Internet is not free, and the propaganda is still getting tighter. Now CCTV tells you that the party name is known. China's high law, the court president Zhou Qiang, this buddy is my good friend. Many years old friends, even openly said that China does not need an independent legal system. So when we were in the lawsuit in the past two days, I would say a word to the judge, all the lawsuits that the judge is fighting now, we are citing what evidence of the Communist Party of China, and what is the Chen Jun case, the Xia Yeliang animal case, Guo Baosheng'er, I said yes, I said you look at the Chinese court's "New York Times", the largest judge of the Chinese court said that China does not need legal independence, and the judge said that all the evidence was waste, which helped me a lot. 
 
But I want to tell you that Xiao Xia just said that it is the essence. A country officially declared to the world that the law is not independent, belief is not free, thought is not open, and the party must be destroyed when the media is not independent. Therefore, everyone is aware of this and has normal judgment. This is why Ms. Xiaoxia is here today. She is not Xiaoxia who flickers. She cannot flicker to VOA. Can you have the ability to flick VOA? Right? Then Guo Baosheng can't wait for Guo Baosheng to be willing to go to the toilet every day, isn't he? Can you go? Can you mix it up? 
 
So comrades-in-arms, we have to keep our eyes clear to see who has the ability to fight against the Communist Party, who really fights against the Communist Party, and who is really doing anti-Communist things in the past few decades. There is another one who needs anti-communism, so I said, Ms. Xiaoxia, who needs our 419 interruption, who needs you, Xiaoxia is expelled, who needs the East not to see heart disease to die, and who needs Zhang Jing to be silent Power, who needs to be tormenting you all the time, causing you to suffer painful punishment, and asking you not to betray the Communist Party and challenge the Communist Party, this is the core, the core of the core. 
 
So, Ms. Xiao Xia, you did not finish the interview just now, and you accepted Chen Xiaoping’s interview not because you two are buddies. You are because Ding Jing’s influence is big, and Luther’s influence is not right? 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It’s not because Ding Jing’s influence is so great. For the first time, I said, I’m the client. I’m the client. People’s Daily looked for me at that time. It’s needless to say that I was interviewed because there is one here, that is, Mr. Chen Xiaoping No matter what, he is a reporter who meets the standards of reporters very much. Who is he doing something else? He himself is a good reporter. I say that, that 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Ding Jing is good, good media? 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I don't care if Ding Jing is a good media. People's Daily is a bad media. That "People's Daily", if "People's Daily", "Xinhua News Agency" what to find me, my voice must go back to China, I must say, you have to follow me. 
 
But there is one thing here. I want to speak honestly. If I want to do what the media does, including interviewing you at the time, I will challenge each other. I will have many different opinions, balance opinions, etc. and many more. I hope that even if I come here today to come to Guo media with you, I don’t mean that there is no pre-defined position, nor will I say, I, you are Guo Guo, not Guo Guo, I am Guo Guo, or yes, this Not my problem 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Guo Media is not me, I repeat once again, Ms. Gong Xiaoxia’s speech does not represent our stand, huh, huh 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Not representative, never representative. I only represent myself, ha ha ha 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Representing our position, if you can be represented, please 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I only represent, I do not want to be represented, and never be represented. But there is one thing that means doing this kind of thing in ah, interviewing, because many people who do self-media have asked me to do interviews. I didn’t accept it, because there is a very basic thing here, which is your professional standard. . 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Well, it means that Mr. Luther’s professional standards are not enough, Mr. Luther 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Not enough, sorry 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Uh, Luther, you need to hurry up, why should I say this? I especially thank you for your heartfelt words. I think we Chinese have a culture in the middle, right? Then this, sometimes don't say so white, sometimes rely on face, this is the most hypocritical! The best thing I have learned in the West is that I honestly tell the truth, if you don’t tell the truth, you have to pay! 
 
It is here that the biggest gap between China and the United States is now caused by the Communist Party. The impunity for fraud in China, and the use of fake vaccines to tell lies are all lies. The Central Standing Committee dyed black hair, white hair dyed black hair, age fraud, doctoral certificate fraud, ah, patriotic fraud, ah everything is false, he is not punished. This is the true and false punishment, tell the truth. What is the second biggest difference? I think that in some professions and professions, you must speak professionally, and professionally, you must be outspoken, 
 
The third one I think all the mean, all the so-called face, can not cover up your mistakes, nor can it be an excuse for your disaster to go wrong. I think this is the biggest gap between Eastern and Western cultures. This is China's biggest invention in the past three hundred years. It is a toothpick. Nothing has been invented. That’s why stupid America, stupid America, people invented the moons in the sky, and the next step is to the sun and the black hole, and then we have invented our Iphone, media, various Tens of thousands of technology. 
 
It is the fool's real person's face to reality, objective, objective, objective and scientific, which has long been the material civilization of mankind today. And our dumplings culture is hypocritical, that is, our so-called face culture is called false culture, let our Communist Party go to China, magnify him infinitely, and become the biggest cancer in Chinese history, causing the biggest human being Humanitarian disasters, the Cultural Revolution, the Tiananmen incident, and one after another. 
 
It’s like that now. Liu Xiaobo died in the first two days. He Ping still has a memorial service and Chen Jun. Now he doesn’t squeak and don’t take any money. His wife came out to donate some money. He died of liver cancer. Zhang Jian also died of liver cancer in the first two days. So let me ask you, how many of you, the influential democracy activists overseas, died of liver cancer? How many people died of liver cancer in the prison? Liver cancer is dead, heart disease is dead, peekaboo is dead, plane is dead, this death law itself is the Communist Party's patent. 
 
So today we have many people overseas who are as influential as you. Now we are faced with a new way of death, so you can’t die or live, what is it? This is the core of the Communist Party’s outreach, and this person must be defeated. 
 
In the end, I have to tell everyone what is meant by infamy? I listen too much! The second and third parts of a security ministry cannot "do it." The word "done" is everyone's jargon, called "did you" and "destroyed you", like Yu Zhijian, it was "done", like that Zhang Hongbao was "done", the car accident, er flooded Death, liver cancer and death Liu Xiaobo were all "made out". I’m convinced, I’m convinced. Mr. Zhang Jian, I dare not say that, I am quite skeptical. Wang Jian was definitely eliminated, right? 
 
Then you are going to lose your reputation now. They often say, oops, this guy has jumped a little in the recent period, even if he is ruined, this will save you face. 
 
Xiaoxia, I think it belongs to the kind that is going to be ruined. What does it mean? I suspect that you are pro-communist, that you are lobbying for China's most-favored-nation treatment, that you are taking the mission 419, that you are suspicious of everything, and then everyone starts to scold you. Including, now we see overseas, including a lot, Boxun is 100% his media, and there are some overseas publicity media. Der Spiegel is sure to have an unknown source of investment. I believe it is also related to them. You can tell me to go. Moreover, after taking the money, this Ding Jing turned more and yelled at him for help. These tell you to let the task be done, which is to make you lose your reputation and completely falsify. 
 
Guo Wengui had no sexual ability at all, only three seconds, and finally became rape, and raped three hundred. After three years of rape, I fucked more than a thousand days. Yesterday, I suddenly found a photo of me in my album, hey? At the time I was in the picture of the boat, I said, I was here when Ma Rui told me to rape? How come I flew so far back to rape and go back? She has been in New York for three years, I am in Bahamas, Nanfa, how come I rape this Ma Rui? More than one thousand days and three years. She only worked for me for less than a year. As a result, she said that I had imprisoned her for more than three years. She traveled 39 times, including going to Hong Kong with her parents for the Chinese New Year. As a result, she said that I had imprisoned her for three years. You can say this kind of bastard. But I tell you that, the Associated Press dare to report 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
So I think this kind of thing, I think the free media is very important, if I have the opportunity, I would like to write these things a little bit, and then in my way, I want to challenge, I have any doubts I will write down the matter where I am, it is very very important, or it is to do a little bit of the show•••••• 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Then I will say you Xiaoxia, ah, Ms. Xiaoxia, let's talk about Mr. Luther now. What I said about you just now, I respect it, but I absolutely disagree, what shall I say to you? Because you are a tradition, we have a generation gap to explain, I am too old and you are too young. why? I told He Pin many times, He Pin was not very confident at the time, when he was on the show. I said, Mr. He Pin, you must develop video, you must develop into a media platform. Don’t think that you can be a little bit of what you are doing today. I said you will definitely be scrapped. The media without the host is the greatest media. 
 
I said Facebook Twitter, Google does not have a host, others are a platform, others are a platform, what is the future? Called social media. I said that he was not confident all the time. Whoops, who was on social media, Guo Baosheng was all powerful. I said, Mr. He Pin, you figure it out. You call the media, you don't call it social media. Social media is free to speak and talk, and there are no principles. Your media is principled, your influence is completely different, not at a level, he can't compare with you. 
 
I mean I agree with you, but you are just the opposite. You have to remember that this media is ideal for you. If you want to make big money, you can only make money by turning it into a tool for free media. Said I hope he will be my Guo media today. 
 
So if He Pin took the path of Guo Media today two years ago, He Pin should be a thousand times better than a hundred times, I believe, maybe more. He definitely made tens of billions of dollars. He has made hundreds of millions of dollars now. Sooner or later, the US government will have to find him, and the Communist Party will have to find him. He has no future. 
 
Just today I told you that the world has changed. It is not your media change, including the New York Times. What have you done? Did you get rid of Trump? It is social media Twitter that is helping the United States rule the country. Twitter is helping Trump. I can tell you, Xiao Xia, these old ideas, Mr. Luther, you said that you are according to the requirements of the media people. He is social media. Just because you don’t look down on him, I like it. 
 
I think Mr. Luther has huge •••••• Do you ask the Chinese whether they like Chen Xiaoping or Luther now? I can tell you that Chen Xiaoping can't even touch Mr. Luther. And I tell you that in the future Luther will be one hundred and one thousand Chen Xiaoping. Der Spiegel future, that time, Luther, accidentally said to me here, he said that I can not compare with Der Spiegel, I am particularly unhappy. I tell you that Guo Wengui is different from you. The Guo media I made is stronger than your mirror, and my influence is ten thousand times greater than yours. I can tell you that Ding Jing has no future. When he took that money, he finished it when he ordered some money during narcissism. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
He has nothing to do with me 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So speaking of you, I don’t admit that you say that he has a lot of influence, and that his influence is not that great. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I didn’t say that he had great influence. I just said that Chen Xiaoping was a very good person and a good reporter. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Agree with me, very cute little zebra, but Luther is a lion! Lions cannot compare with zebras! 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Then I, it’s normal for me not to deal with him, is it, I am afraid that the lion will bite me. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Hahaha, he doesn’t bite you, hahaha he doesn’t bite you, doesn’t bite you 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Here is a very simple thing, I am a very serious person. I am a scholar and a journalist. I am a very serious person. What do others do? I don’t follow her, what’s hot, and I’m not online. It’s not my problem. For me, my conscience, my professional sense, It is very serious to figure out a thing from beginning to end. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Me, yes, I think you are Xiaoxia? You are still traditional media 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I am very traditional 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
That's why I talked to you about these media. I told you, you can imagine Guo Media's current number, can you imagine? I believe that two years ago I said that you absolutely treat me as fart, absolutely nonsense. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I didn't say you fart. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Ha ha, yeah, I believe you said that in your heart, ha, have you done it now? Ah, isn't it what I said? It’s the facts here. You can’t leave it for a while. Mr. Luther, we do not comment on personal matters. He has many shortcomings in the media. But I tell you, you see how exaggerated this social media is. In the past ten years, the biggest event is Tunisia, Abibi, Mohammed Ani, his president, Attorney General Afari, and his son-in-law have been overnight. Was it destroyed? That is the role of social media! Who did the Arab Spring? Is social media not your serious media. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It doesn't matter, this is something that individuals do for themselves. I have my standards and I insist on what I do myself. I am very happy that others have done this. I have no problems. I have nothing. But if that's not what I want to do, I won't do it. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
So to answer your question, Mr. Luther, I'll finish the question for you. Ha ha, Ms. Xiao Xia thinks that you are a bit heavy and you have to continue to work hard. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I'm not saying that other people's weight is not enough, I mean, 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
He has enough weight, he is 240 kg, hey heavier than me. Ms. Xiao Xia has a request. There is another one I think is the case. You, I told Mr. Luther in this world, only a person is strong. When you are strong enough, Comrade Xiaoxia is struggling every day to ask for your media. You have succeeded! 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I have never done such a thing? Have I pleaded with the US government? Have I pleaded for the "New York Times"? Have I pleaded for the "Washington Post"? 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
No, but when will I tell you? When Mr. Luther's media can truly defeat the Communist Party, everyone will beg you. This is one because of its anti-communist effect. 
The second is what era can Xiaoping Chen go through, and what era does Ding Jing go through. In my words, I take a look at Yangxian County, Xingu County, Xinxian County. 
 
But there is a problem I think Ms. Xiao Xia, what do you want, you really, strictly speaking, you are the boss of the Chinese media industry. At that time, He Pin wanted to dig you, I heard you were fired. It is necessary to dig Li Su and dig into the tiger, but he found that he told me, no, these people are too expensive, and he will not. There is also one. These people don’t listen to me. He wants to be the boss, so he knows he can’t play you. 
 
The third one is that he thinks, ah, you have too much influence, and you will be gone when you come. You are definitely the most influential media people in the Chinese world. But what I want to say today is that the new media era is particularly hopeful. This is a suggestion. If you need me to support me, I will give your full support. Now you Xiaoxia said Wengui, you write me a 10 million dollar cheque. I will give it to you immediately when you turn on the TV. You said that if you open one billion, you have to give me two hours. I have to call my fund as soon as possible. I have to borrow it and find a way. I definitely support you. 
 
But what do I want from you? You really want to give up traditional media, that is, to support some young people in social media. This is what I want to do most. Because the young people who support young people call this guy up, it is too effective for anti-communism. Strictly speaking, anti-communism depends on science and technology media, not traditional media. You mean serious media, or traditional media, but Now we need to train young people. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It looks like to me, anti-communism means that the foundation of the Communist Party is false. If the anti-Communist Party needs it, it must rely on truth and facts. Whether it is from the media or from this formal media, your most fundamental That means all your reports and all the basic things you need to stand out, be very real, and be very solid. And in this middle 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Ok! totally agree! 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
That is to say, you also know that I have always been, including when I write things, I have parties and opinions, but these things cannot affect your most basic reports on the matter and the disclosure of some basic facts. As a scholar in particular, I am, I was trained by the British positivism tradition, then for all these facts, that is to say, there is a large number of facts behind each and every statement, then you can’t engage in the Communist Party. One set I said, this is what I said. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Yes, yes, totally agree 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
The facts are wrong, then, it’s very important. It will be the whole afterwards. I will look at other countries later. For example, I am like many Germans and Czechs. I talked a lot with the leader of the Polish Solidarity Union two days ago. This matter is that restoring the truth is the most difficult task for them to do after the revolution, the most important and the most difficult. 
 
Well, they are still doing it now. Thirty years have passed, so I think that the Communist Party of China, a country as big as China, has ruled China like this for 70 years, and the Chinese people don’t know if it’s true. what. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Correct 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
So, for me, my mission, no matter what little thing I do, no matter what, this kind of reality is the most important, which is why if I want to support it, I think the program "Decryption Moment" must be restored. . 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Very good, ah, I think I strongly support the "Decryption Moment" program, ah, right now, to do better, I think it's a great program. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Of course, it can be done very well. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I strongly support it with all my heart. I was particularly touched when you said that when I went to the Lithuanian National Museum, they showed me some of their collections below. At that time, they were the communists who were bought before World War II and before the Berlin Wall. It is the letter before being killed before being killed. I feel very deep
Suddenly remembering that sentence just now, they said that what the country needs most is not money, food and bread, but what is needed is the truth. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
the truth! What is needed is the truth. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Damn! You said that I felt too deep. At that time, I felt so deep after reading this. Why was it before death, not for the children and grandchildren, how can we have ingots in our family, how much money do I have, and who I scold, no. Many say that what the country needs is not bread, not food, the truth! 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
This is how China is. When I went to Lithuania, I stood at the KGB in the museum. They called the Genocide Museum. I went there. I stood there, tears falling down. I said that China needs this too much. Later, when I was at the Voice of America, I said that the original "decryption moment" I wanted to form a group, two groups, and three groups followed along the way to do a lot of this thing. But the superior must be cut. The superior has this thing••••••I now have a wish that if anyone can support anything, it is to support the production of “Decryption Moment” to resume. Either way, because VOA has no copyright. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
We can have a good talk, and I am willing to fully support it. As long as this is the anti-communist and decryption moment, I fully support it. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
The Communist Party is most afraid of the truth. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
what! Correct! Is the truth. That's what I started from breaking the news to the present, when all private netizens and our comrades communicate with me, I will say this sentence. He said, "Mr. Guo, how do you do a good live broadcast?" I said, "You must tell the truth." Because it is only a matter of time before you tell a false story. 
 
So now we have too many cases, lawyers will come up with a lot of YouTube or something. Including the fact that the other party held a lot of videos in the New York High Law Court last Friday, and the judge said: "Stop! Stop on the spot. "Why stop? Because you are not certified at all. This is one. The second you None of the words that Guo Wengui said were false. You can find one for me. Is there?" 
"No." 
"Stop!" He was stupid as soon as the judge said. How much money would he have to do to make the video? After reading all of my video and translating it into English, I found a paragraph saying that this kid proved to be a lie. 
"Find me a video that can tell lies, is there?" 
"No." 
"stop" 
What concept? I totally agree with what you said. It is that the media people are most afraid of fraud. Then I would like to ask you, why did BoXun tell me that it was true for you to find out what happened to BoXun? Xiaoxia, you find out that a piece of news reported by Boxun is true. Guo Wengui immediately kneeled here for you today. Why can it survive? Why does it survive? 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I'm fine and I don't want to see those things. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
What am I going to tell you. This is the problem you just said. Our Chinese people have no ability to discern the truth. Boxun is a Chinese media, not an English media. He wanted English media, and he was killed long ago. Why does a media like Boxun and Weiwei tell lies every day and he can still live? At the core of what you just said, our people need truth. 
 
So whether it is Luther or Mr. Chen Xiaoping, you must insist on telling the truth. Speak professional words. There is another thing that I think is more important and more important, which must make Chinese people understand the truth. No one understands He Ping with you. No one knows what he said. It is called kill time, which means suicide and killing time. So I think Ms. Xiao Xia, you have 30 minutes on this show today. It was 30 minutes and now I can hardly imagine more than two hours. I feel as if I had just started. The show is very good. 
 
Guests are here. Today is noon, and today we have lunch with our director of Bill Gaze. Today, we ordered French ducks, baby bamboo shoots, spring ducks and spring chickens 3 or 4 days ago. I haven't dared to eat anything since morning, I am waiting for lunch. You just talked about it a few times just now, and my head is all about eating ducks and chickens. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Let me start by saying that I am not a federal employee and it is okay to eat your meal. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
You are wrong. So you are a bit overdone, sometimes you perform a bit overdone. Xiaoxia is a director of the Rule of Law Fund. The meal I ate today was paid by the rule of law fund, but as I said when the rule of law fund started to run, I would like to announce to you that every penny of the rule of law fund will be announced by me. So when the Rule of Law Fund invited directors to include Bill Goz, I paid. Because it is not used now. Including attorney fees for offices used by the Rule of Law Fund. 
 
How much did you pay for the lawyers at the meeting yesterday, I will pay. This rule of law fund has a minimum of tens of thousands of dollars a day, and now I pay it all by myself. Now the rule of law fund includes what is being talked about recently, including the rule of law fund to save Xinjiang. How can all those who come out of Xinjiang come out and get a real third country passport. Think about how much money I take,
I won't elaborate on this. You knew it yesterday. It’s all my personal money. So I say again that governance funds are China's only hope. The Rule of Law Fund is not owned by anyone. It is an independent director of such a conscientious professional. During her meeting yesterday, I heard that there was a complete mess. I heard that you and Bannon are very intense. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
It’s not that I quarreled with Bannon very often, so don’t take it seriously. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Haha! The noise was fierce. I am also not eligible to participate, only heard. So every penny of the rule of law fund will be spent on anti-communism and the rescue of Chinese compatriots framed by the Communist Party. No penny will be spent on this Evian water. I paid the money myself. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I also say something here. Quarrels are all for work not why. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
It's just that you want you to quarrel. This is where I like you. You are here to quarrel. When I invited you to come at that time, the few American friends, the M one: "Oh. Can you please invite the Chinese. "I said:" What do you mean. "He said, "Because I worry that you will threaten the Chinese you invite. "He is kind. I said, "Mr. Luther has been threatened and not afraid. Sara is also threatened and not afraid. The husband of the Mulan family is not afraid of Japanese. Xiao Xia is even more afraid and has been working for decades." He said, "Why are you looking for Xiao Xia?" I gave them reasons. Xiao Xia's recommendation was that Xiao Xia would quarrel, and Xiao Xia did not compromise, so Xiao Xia was called. So I feel particularly good. 
 
So let's say that today we are paying for the law fund Guo Wengui. So our lawyer always said, "Mr. Guo, you always let me apply for a loan, and it is not very good for you to spend heavily on this." I said, "I'm sorry. I have nothing else, just like eating. You can’t compromise on eating." But the money is all for me. Did you eat this morning? 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
There is no less to eat here with you. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
She is particularly stupid and comes in to eat the sandwich first. That is the best sandwich. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I am a reporter. Before this kind of long show, eat it first. After that, I wouldn't suddenly want to eat in the middle, and then my mind would be distracted. I haven't lost my mind today. But because there is not much time, I want to talk about it in the end, that is, I probably never publicly talked about my general views since Guo Wengui broke the news. 
 
Many people questioned me online, whether you are anti-communist or not. I don't think I need to answer this anymore. Is this history here? However, I said that I have had a career as a counter-revolutionary for decades. I have never seen a person scare the Communist Party to this degree. This is what Wen Gui knew. When I first came, I was full of doubts. I think he came out of the Communist Party. Of course I have many, many doubts, and I have many doubts. I still have a lot of questions, and I have to ask clearly. But I have never seen a person, including many of my friends who have been anti-Communist for many years, pose such a big threat to the Communist Party. I have never seen the Communist Party use so many methods to prevent a person from speaking. On this basis, on this basis, the Communist Party will not let him speak, and I must help Mr. Wen Gui to say more. 
 
Especially in the English world, I will help him in a world other than Chinese and let him speak a lot. This is what I want to say today. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Hahaha! Moving. Moving. What Ms. Xiao Xia said just now is consistent. Of course I don't dare to be. I really don't dare to be, Ms. Xiao Xia. Ms. Xiao Xia paid a solid price for our breaking news revolution and brought a huge threat to her life. So like Mr. Dongfang, like Mr. Li Su, like this Mr. Hu Cheng, I once again express my heartfelt gratitude and gratitude to you. Never forget, never give up, never give up. Although you have not indicated that we are comrades-in-arms, in fact we are already comrades-in-arms. We have already had a relationship, you can't stop it if you want to, or you can't recognize it. Another Xiaoxia said that she is against the Communist Party? She was against the Communist Party. The facts are there. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
I was in jail for a year. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
Yup. I know. She was captured by the Communist Party on her 18th birthday. 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Do not. The 21st birthday was taken away at the age of 20. 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: 
I was taken away on my 20th birthday. I remember this inaccurately. So, my dear comrades, I don't want to shoot everywhere now and be an enemy to the world. Another is to fight civil war every day. The Communist Party can abuse China, and it is a civil war to kill so many people. Fight against the Communist Party for various great reasons. In the end, a Communist Party was fought out and so many people died. Another dear comrade-in-arms, the thing I dislike most is catching the wind and the shadows. The Communist Party set up framing, framing, arranging design, digging traps, unprovoked crimes, out of nothing. I hate it. 
 
Anyone who does anything in this society and only tells lies will never take care of him once he tells lies. Here I tell my son and my daughter: "I tell you, as long as you find out that you are telling a lie. We have no relationship between father and daughter." This is absolute. This is the minimum nature of human beings, the biggest difference between humans and animals. is not it. 
 
So, dear comrades, we face Ms. Xiaoxia. When we were pinched by someone’s neck two years ago, begging everyone to help us, it was only VOA. Ms. Gong Xiaoxia and I never met, and took Mr. Dongfang and her. 'S team came to New York to complete such a great event. God will not arrange a traitor, a liar, or a communist to complete a 419, that is impossible. 
 
So, I think I doubt the Ms. Xiao Xia, I hope to stop here. Ms. Xiaoxia should be full of gratitude and gratitude. I should be very grateful for Mr. Dongfang, Mr. Hu Cheng, and Mr. Li Su. This is our great comrade in arms. Another starting from today, we have to use all our experiences in the core values ​​of more truthful, kind and ruthless. You can't say that when you are happy, you need to be true and kind. If you are not happy, you need to be false, evil, and ugly. That's impossible. 
 
So today I am honored to be with Ms. Xiao Xia for two years after 419. We are today. Absolutely we don’t have any rehearsals and no communication. Today is like a sister, joking, we chat today. Xiaoxia chats with Wengui about 419. 
 
419 has completely changed the image of the Chinese Communist Party in the world and its quality. It has greatly shortened its time to rule China and kidnap China, and has saved many Chinese people. More important things, we let the West and the United States see the truth of the Communist Party. Next, we will do more and continue the spirit of 419, destroy the Communist Party as soon as possible, and let the Chinese live in a country with independent rule of law and freedom. Let Chinese people have freedom of belief, believe in religion, let all people in China live in a life without fear, and let people at home and abroad can go home freely, you can take care of your father and mother when you are sick, you can Send off. Then all the children stopped pretending to be adults and lived their children's days, refusing to eat chemical food or fight fake vaccines. Let the Chinese live a dignified life and become a force for peace in the world. Let the people of the world like the Chinese, instead of turning them into rats that cross the street, and bear the virus of the Communist Party. This is the value of our existence. 
 
This is also the most important role that 419 opened that day. Forever and ever, thank all the people of 419, Ms. Xiao Xia, Mr. Dongfang, Mr. Li Su, and the team behind them. Wengui will never forget, nor should everyone. So thank you very much! 
 
Ms. Gong Xiaoxia: 
Thank you! 
 
Mr. Guo Wengui: Xiao Xia and I pray for 1.4 billion Chinese people and comrades..