Guo: Too little. How is 20% debt possible.

Liu: Let's just say that the famous ones, including Wang Jianlin, including Evergrande, have many debts in the banks.

Guo: Including Pan Shiyi, he is the same, they are all a bunch of loans.

Liu: I'll tell you so many things, you have to understand it, another country has taken you all, you are proud, I donated the house to the country, who do you think the country will donate to, and which department dare to ask for it?

Guo: Ministry of Security, Ministry of Security.

Liu: The Ministry of Security, I won't want it. What I said to you is still the same sentence, this is your Guo Wengui, you are Zhengquan, Pangu, Yuda, including the part of Fangzheng, you are the actual controller, is you Guo Wengui or you Guo Wengui, you should pay back what you owe Also, right. What we said protects the fact that several private entrepreneurs say there is no other mess in taxation.

Guo: I really don't, I promise you.

Liu: I told you very formally and seriously today that I represent the country. I am not here to represent the party and the people. This is the premise. I personally think that the country has given me this responsibility. What is the purpose is to seek a solution. The way out of the problem, don't believe anything else, and don't listen to it. First of all, to ensure your safety, including the safety of your family, this is still the same sentence, we put these problems on the legal level, just at the judicial level, we will solve this problem after we have clarified it, and the solution is over. As for Guo Wengui's personal safety, the safety of my family is not a problem. Those are all later things, provided that the problem is solved. I can tell you responsibly, one sentence is to solve the problem. The second sentence is after solving the problem, if you are willing to continue to contribute to the motherland.

Guo: I am very willing, and I am absolutely willing to do so.

Liu: Secretary Meng said: I am very responsible to tell you that I will divide Guo Wengui into two.

Guo: Thank you Secretary Meng.

Liu: This is what he said. You must be divided into two. You have to admit that you have a radical side, but you must also see the contributions you have made to the country and the efforts you have made for this cause. The work done. Before I left, I also told Wen Gui that he should stabilize his emotions, and that he must stabilize his emotions. On the premise of stable emotions, we all seek solutions to problems together. I'm not telling you these things alone. They said that I can tell you the truth that this is not the opinion of one person or another. So there are some things about you, I can only tell you that the information is asymmetry, and I won’t tell you anything else. As for the things you just said, I will not give you a positive answer. The whole cause and effect include Low Tezuo and I have also done some understanding about the relationship between Abu Dhabi and Najib Malaysia, and understand what I mean.

Guo: Secretary Meng is more asymmetrical than my news, because he doesn't know that I have been investigating by the project team in Malaysia until now. You can tell Secretary Meng that it was in Malaysia that Vice Minister Ma Jian and I took Chen Weili back.

Liu: Oh, the son of Chen XX.

Guo: I, Guo Wengui's influence in Malaysia, he didn't investigate it. The project team of the Political and Legal Committee should be buried alive. Just kidding! I got Chen Weili back. The information on his side is asymmetrical, not one aspect.

Liu: You can ask your family members to arrange a representative to take your team and here little by little, one by one. After solving the problem, find common ground. Everyone agrees that we can use the entire legal provisions to do it. I will give you Say that I came to chat with you today and we can solve it. Wengui, the economic assets you generate now, you say 120 billion, I don’t really believe this number, but I think 70 or 80 billion is okay, and I don’t quite understand what you just said about your debt. Thirty percent or thirty-five percent. These things are based on facts and the law is the criterion. It is necessary to pay off debts, and do what you should do in accordance with the law to settle claims and debts. , Your net worth is legal, understand? This is a question. Don’t say so absolutely. Some things may not be your master or your original intention. But in the following operations, can you ensure that everything meets the legal requirements? If you tell me that it is 100% legal, I will tell you which private enterprise, mixed ownership enterprise or even state-owned enterprise or central enterprise dare to say that? State-owned enterprises and state-owned enterprises have a lot of things after auditing. What are these penalties? You have to recognize the punishment, okay? Of course this is my subjective thought, and I don't know the final result. right? another one. This is not to say that it is impossible to do nothing. I think there are some things that can be solved within the legal framework. Do you understand what I mean? It's not that these things are not easy to discuss, but let me tell you that we will settle this matter and we will be in peace.

Guo: What should I say during the current investigation.

Liu: No, that's another matter. I told you that if you have one, I gave it up. For example, you say 21 crimes, the 21 you just said.

Guo: No, I mean they tried to use 21 things like this.

Liu: For example, if you are suspected of kidnapping, if you listen to me tell you, I will give you this one. Why did you give it to you? For example, Qingzhi's nephew, who is looking at the house with you in Hong Kong, is her relative anyway. It's corruption and embezzlement.

Guo: I bought two sets of wives and two sets of houses.

Liu: I eat, drink and gamble over in Shenzhen, and buy watches. This is a matter of pushing my nose to my face, so I said I would give you this.

Guo: Secretary, don't you think this is absurd?

Liu: So after I read the matter, I said that it was not something I could make clear. This was 48 hours at the time. That's right. Where is the person in the security department? Where is the person who finished writing the materials? It was sent to the police, sent to the police station, and after that, sent to the branch, and then sent to the prosecution. After the procuratorate prosecuted the court, the court judged embezzlement and embezzlement. What do you think of me? Be careful, do the above things, and don’t repeat the things below. See what I mean? So I tell you these things we have to push forward like this.

Guo: I am suspected of bribery. What is the main crime now?

Liu: What we are talking about now is the alleged bribery. What did you mean by the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection?

Guo: Meng Huiqing of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection.

Liu: Yes, Meng Huiqing, Song Jianguo, and Zhang Yue didn't mention all of them, so they mentioned Ma Jian. Ma Jian is written in black and white.

Guo: Secretary, I will tell you responsibly today if you read the dossier, we will have a chat. I know what I’m doing. I won’t be lucky enough to say that I did it and I don’t recognize it. Do you think I’m a person with this kind of intelligence? It was all made up. Did Vice Minister Ma Jian’s house be bought by Guo Wengui? Where did the money come from? What company was used to buy it, and for what reason? There must be arguments and evidence, all of which are fabricated. Not to mention Meng Huiqing, where does Meng Huiqing get the money? If I bribe him, he has to do something for me, right? The condition of bribery is first of all the power and money transaction between the two parties, and Song Jianguo, Song Jianguo, and Fu Zhenghua are in the same way, and he paid me the bribe is almost the same, staring. I am very happy to discuss it with you. I can now tell you that the person in charge can tell you that if one day proves that Guo Wengui really did this thing, then I am really a big liar. According to the laws of the world, anyone has the right to prove innocence, and anyone who proves himself guilty can not be used as evidence. I will tell you again. Just now Deputy Minister Ma Jian, I will say you You didn't read the dossier seriously about the matter just mentioned.

Liu: Well, you said.

Guo: Why did the Ministry of Security do it for me? Why did Vice Minister Ma Jian do it for me? What is he doing to coordinate this matter? The Ministry of Security sent me more than a hundred articles. Was it the decision of the organization or the personal decision of Vice Minister Ma Jian? I, Guo Wengui, will pull the US Vice President Al Gore for you. I will win relations with the country. This is an exchange from the country. This is an official letter sent by the country. Why is it called bribery? When it comes to bribery, I’m bribing the country, not Vice Minister Ma Jian. Vice Minister Ma Jian never said that you came forward to help me coordinate and let me give you personal benefits. This is two, and the third is the one you just mentioned. Regarding Shijiazhuang, the secretary asks you to check it out. I am very willing. My 6 percent of the shares have nothing to do with the Ministry of Security and Ma Jian half a dime. Check why they sell and how much money I pay. I bought it. Today is a lot of money. A glass of water costs one dollar. If you help me coordinate, I should buy it for fifty cents. Today it is worth fifty cents, but I spent one and five cents. What does it have to do with you? Even this thing is stuffed on me, the secretary, I will tell you with evidence. That's hilarious.

Liu: Listen to what I told you. What I told you just now, including Zhengquan, Ma Jian, and Ma Jian's sister, how many houses did they buy from office to residence?

Guo: Sixteen houses.

Liu: You borrowed money when you first bought a house?

Guo: No, his sister asked me to borrow the money.

Liu: Yes, his sister asked about the money you borrowed, and then you bought it back again.

Guo: Yes, I bought it back.

Liu: How much money did the round trip earn? The price you gave him.

Guo: That's true for me. The market price is 60,000 yuan, and he sold me three quick dollars, and he made more than 20 million yuan.

Liu: Yes, he earned it.

Guo: What can I do for him to make money?

Liu: You listen to me tell you?

Guo: First of all, Vice Minister Ma Jian bought my house. Many people in the Ministry of Security also bought my house. He didn't recognize me Guo Wengui when he bought my house. Don’t ignore this fact. I beg others to buy a house. , I just want to get these loans. My employees bought six hundred houses without a penny. Vice Minister Ma Jian still took the money. Is this illegal? Do I have the right to trade with him? Did I ask him to do things for me?

Liu: You listen to me, Ma Jian confessed all these things.

Guo: Secretary, so this is what I want to talk to you today. If you use the file as a condition to talk to me, first, whether the file is legal, and second, whether it is a fact. If it is legal and fact, I will have everything Accept, if it’s neither legal nor factual, I don’t want to talk about it. There is another thing I don’t ask my team to participate in. You must remember that Secretary Liu said, I’ll teach you Secretary Liu, you’re representing the organization, Guo Wengui. I am willing to let your organization participate and let your lawyer participate. I am very willing, but we are at our own risk. I am not responsible for the international impact. To this day, I still focus on the national image and national interests. Just like what I told you, everything must be handled in accordance with the law. Don't give me face. Because Guo Wengui calls for the rule of law, but you yourself are illegal and don’t want too many people to participate. Guo Mei and Guo Qiang do not have the ability. I am willing to face them all. Only I can make things clear, no one can make it clear. of.

Liu: You said your team is not good for them?

Guo: It’s impossible. Once my team gets involved, the whole world will know it. I can’t guarantee it. So you say Guo Wengui, come on. Once you know this matter has nothing to do with you, they will say Guo Wengui, you kid, you betrayed the country, my business It’s absolutely beyond your imagination in the world. I’ll say it again. I don’t want to do that, but if you ask me to do that, if you say that I will not bear the consequences, I am willing to do. What I told you today, what you saw today, I I'm not doing you a mess. If you say I bribed Meng Huiqing and Song Jianguo, secretary, do you know what they did in the past three years? After three years, if I really commit a crime, won't they clean me up soon? It should have become popular early, that’s why I said they used you as a gunman, and asked you to do what they didn’t do. You asked them under what circumstances all these files were done, according to the law. Not legal. Second, I'm staring at you. Song Jianguo was arrested before I came out. Song Jianguo's case Fu Zhenghua arrested my son first.

Liu: Look, as soon as you talk about specific issues, you return to the original point.

Guo: Yes, the secretary today, all the files you want to use Fu Zhenghua and these people to frame me, you ask me to admit that it is impossible.

Liu: Let's say that. If I ask Xiao Wu to make a record tomorrow, will you sign it?

Guo: I will not sign.

Liu: Yes, okay, we two resonate.

Guo: I wouldn't tell the outside that I would not sign either.

Liu: Listen to me. What do I mean? Take your statement and talk about the situation after you sort it out.

Guo: Actually, I also suggest that you must record.

Liu: Recording?

Guo: Because after recording, you can let the relevant staff of the project team listen to it, because sometimes you can’t remember it. Can this matter be matched with Ma Jian and Song Jianguo?

Liu: Then you will record it tomorrow. After you finish recording, you will give me the disc. I have nothing to record.

Guo: Okay, let’s talk about it tomorrow. I want to record with the lawyer’s consent because it is illegal. I’m recording your voice here. I’m breaking the law. American laws are very exaggerated.

Liu: Let me tell you...

Guo: You can rest assured, you can rest assured.

Liu: Do you understand what I mean. The two topics you gave to my unit are too small, releasing people and revoking the "red pass" are too small and too specific. Let me tell you, I thought of something bigger than this, but I can’t tell you today, get it. I told you just now, whether it’s seven, six, six plus one, what I’ve said is justified, and certain things can be found at a price and you should not participate. You are the law of death, and the premise of the law of death is to govern the country according to law, in order to rule the country according to law. You told me to tell you, among these four aspects, the rule of law must be a process. This process will be more painful and difficult, and we must work hard to meet each other. When this program comes out, it's not just 05:09:00—05:09:02, do you understand what I mean? If these things are made concrete, the process is absolutely difficult. If we make the process smooth, the result may be better than what you expected now, do you understand.

Guo: But secretary, can you speak?

Liu: Yeah

Guo: Secretary, it’s exactly what you talked about. I speak my heart. I see what’s behind. I tell you about the secretary. You listen to me. If you see, you must be willing to confront me. I am very willing to do it. .