Host Xu Bo:
Listeners, audience friends, welcome to listen and watch, talk about current affairs on VOA Satellite TV on Wednesday, April 19th. This is Xu Bo. Today we are launching a special program of the Voice of America. The Voice of America interviewed Guo Wengui, the focus of Chinese news. This is the first time that Guo Wengui has been interviewed by free media overseas. Please pay attention.
Well, first of all, let’s pay attention to today’s important news. The Trump administration has made it clear to North Korea a few days ago that it has clearly stated a tougher strategy for North Korea, saying that it has lost patience by its uncompromising attitude towards Pyongyang in terms of its long-term abuse of North Korea’s nuclear ambitions. US Vice President Peng Si said on Wednesday that those who want to challenge our determination or preparedness on the Japanese US military aircraft carrier should understand that we will defeat any offensive and that the United States will make an overwhelming and effective use of any conventional or nuclear weapons. In response, Vice President Peng Si announced in Tokyo on Tuesday that the United States will not give up until the goal of denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula is achieved.
Earlier, Peng Si said in Seoul, South Korea that the era of strategic tolerance is over, alluding to the Obama administration's more low-key strategy. During Pence's visit to Northeast Asia, Lieutenant General McMaster, the National Security Adviser to the US President, told ABC that no option was ruled out for the North Korean issue, but McMaster expressed hope that there would be no military strikes on North Korea. President Trump recently tweeted that the Pyongyang regime is a threat of trouble. Trump also severely criticized the Obama administration’s foreign policy, saying that the first 90 days of my presidency have exposed the complete failure of foreign policy in the past eight years. Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen condemned the violence during the siege of the Legislative Yuan. The personnel who participated in the protest hoped that the Tsai Ing-wen government heard their voices. Below, please see the report by Voice of America reporter Shen Hua from Taipei.
Reporter Shen Hua:
Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen delivered a speech to people across the country on Wednesday afternoon, condemning the violence during the siege of the Legislative Yuan. It was reported that some protesters used violent methods, including splashing water, to block some unresponsible legislators and staff from entering the Legislative Yuan and participating in concerted activities. There were also scuffles with the police. Some hearings were forced to postpone. There were reports that a total of 13 violent incidents occurred in the morning. President Tsai Ing-wen said in the presidential palace, "No one likes it.
But I want to ask everyone to be patient. These inconveniences are all for the sake of letting us absolutely not allow violence to delay the pace of reform. So this morning we organized legislators and entered the Legislative Yuan to splash water.
Reporter Shen Hua:
On Wednesday morning, the Legislative Yuan was blocked and it was very difficult to enter the Legislative Yuan. Only a narrow passage in the barbed wire was allowed to enter and exit the Legislative Yuan. During the meeting of the Legislative Yuan, the tweeter outside the court overwhelmed the indoor sound. Taiwan’s National Education Industry, Union Secretary Liu Yaping told the United States on Tuesday The Voice said, "I am a ninja. Our metalworking school is the guardian of the country. We are hired by the national law. We are hired in accordance with the law to give salaries and pensions. It is noon and noon today. We must be deleted if we have no money to induce labor. Employed pensions, this country cannot say that if the DPP’s ruling party is in chaos, then chaos, and if there is chaos, how can a government in this country be a government if it has no credibility?
Reporter Shen Hua asked: on one question, will there be violence?
Liu Yaxing:
Let me tell you that we do not rule out this possibility. The reform has not yet been implemented. After you reform, some military workers have a stable life. When they can’t survive, I don’t let the people survive. Any behavior is possible. , This government is responsible for the occurrence of these actions.
Reporter Shen Hua:
At the same time, Tsai Ing-wen called on the public to give the government a chance in his speech. He also said that the young people who have been backlogged all the year round, the reform issue is one of the problems left by the previous government. Voice of America reporter, Shen Hua reported from Taipei.
Host Xu Bo:
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China confirmed today that Interpol issued a red bulletin on Tuesday, and that Chinese businessman Guo Wengui, who is currently in the United States, was invited by reporters at today’s press conference. The spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Lu Kang confirmed that the Chinese government requested Interpol to issue a red notice to Guo Wengui and asked Guo Wengui what crime he was suspected of. Lu Kang replied, “As far as we know, Interpol has already issued a red notice to Guo Wengui. Red Wanted Red wanted notices are red notices. You can check with relevant departments for specific information."
Host Xu Bo:
Guo Wengui, one of China’s wealthiest businessmen, left China in 2013. Earlier this year, he had two online live interviews with overseas Chinese media, revealing the corruption of high-level CCP officials and their families. There is currently no extradition treaty between the United States and China. ,
Take a good rest, and come back later for an exclusive interview with Guo Wengui on the Voice of America special program, revealing the secrets of corruption at the top of the Chinese Communist Party.
Host Xu Bo:
Regal Guo Wengui, this is Guo Wengui's first face-to-face interview overseas. The VOA will be broadcast live on April 19 at 9 am Eastern Time at 9 pm Beijing time. In consideration of safety, Mr. Guo Wengui's interview will be held in a place where the specific address is not disclosed. Guo Wengui promised to VOA that he will bring news of nuclear explosion level. No one knows to which level and level of corrupt CCP officials Guo Wengui's revelations will be directed. The Voice of America will broadcast live on satellite TV, radio, official website Facebook, Twitter, Youguan, and multiple platforms. News is good and bad, and the VOA reports the truth.
Host Xu Bo:
Well, welcome back to VOA’s vo a satellite TV. The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that Interpol has issued a red arrest warrant to the suspect Guo Wengui. Then, in today’s special program, VOA will interview this news focus. Character Guo Wengui, this is Guo Wengui's first time. The interview with the free media overseas was interviewed for the safety of Mr. Guo Wengui. The VOA interview was held in a confidential location. Voice of America reporter Gong Xiaoxia led a team of senior reporters to interview Guo Wengui. Welcome to listen to the VOA’s Special interview program The interview program will be broadcast on VOA satellite TV and radio on VOA’s official website VOA Facebook. Live broadcasts on multiple platforms such as Twitter and YouTube. The Voice of America is an independent news media funded by the US government. We do not accept donations or sponsorships from any group, private or company. The purpose of our exclusive interview with Mr. Guo Wengui is to expose the truth. Involving any exchange of interests, the interviewees and audience members of the Voice of America are all speaking to them. Personal opinions do not mean that the VOA news is good or bad. VOA only reports the truth. Yes, voa is not acceptable to listeners today. The audience’s live phone calls to ask questions. We welcome you all to post your questions in today’s YouTube live broadcast chat room. Now I will hand over the time to VOA reporters Gong Xiaoxia and Dongfang.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Dear audience friends, I’m Gong Xiaoxia. I’m here today for a special interview with VOA. Mr. Guo Wengui, one of China’s most recent focal figures, has been constantly exposing some information about China’s political arena. It caused a considerable sensation in the political arena and has become a very eye-catching event in China. Sitting with me today is my colleague. Dongfang, Dongfang was once a reporter for the Voice of North America in Beijing. He is very familiar with Chinese affairs. We are here to welcome Dongfang today, and we also welcome Mr. Guo Wengui.
Hello, Mr. Guo!
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Ms. Xiaoxia, hello, Mr. Dongfang, and the audience, I’m Guo Wengui, and I want to say hello to my Twitter friends.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
His position and his. Welcome, any individuals involved in the incident, and related people of any incident, they also come to the United States, and the economy is on the same platform. We give them the same platform and the same relevant time period for their own behavior. And the Chinese government, who is defended by some possible accusations they have received, is very hopeful that they can also give you some explanations on our platform.
Reporter Dongfang:
Dear viewers and netizens, I’m Dongfang. I used to be a reporter from the Voice of America in Beijing. So I’m very happy that Ms. Gong Xiaoxia invited me to host this show with her. We are, history, and America. The experts of ”have written too many books, so I have stayed in Beijing for many years, and I am concerned about Beijing’s politics. Ah, the situation of political-business collusion, the situation of Beijing’s corruption, and Beijing’s public grievances all have a certain understanding, so I’m very happy to assist Ms. Gong Xiaoxia in this highly anticipated interview. Just in this exclusive interview with Qianxi, we suddenly What I heard was that the Ministry of Public Security of China suddenly issued a red notice to Mr. Guo Wengui last night, the Red Wanted Red Notice, also referred to as Hongtong for short. Well, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs also responded to the questions raised by foreign journalists. Let’s take a look at the foreign journalists we just received from Beijing. This is a question-and-answer dialogue about Guo Wengui at the regular press conference of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Beijing. Live. "As far as we know, Interpol has issued a red arrest to the suspect Guo Wengui." The red wanted order is also the red notice. You can check with the relevant departments for specific information."
So what crime did this Guo Wengui commit? This is a red wanted for him. According to a report in the South China Morning Post, he was suspected of bribery, especially suspected. Xiang Majian, that’s money. Ma Jian, the deputy minister of the Ministry of Public Security of China, bribed 60 million yuan, equivalent to 8.72 million U.S. dollars, or 8.72 million U.S. dollars. This figure is quite huge. So why this bribery incident has probably happened for a long time, why? Only now has this red wanted him been issued, Xiaoxia, what do you think of this problem?
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: I think it might have something to do with the VOA live broadcast, because we announced it last Friday. After we are going to live broadcast the interview with Mr. Guo Wengui, we also received Mr. Guo Wengui. According to him, he picked it up. There are a lot of people who have come to say hello. Then, on Monday, through some official channels, we got sexual information that the Dalian Public Security Bureau has officially issued an arrest warrant for Mr. Guo Wengui. We I would like to hear how Mr. Gui reacted to this first.
Mr. Guo Wengui: Thank you, Ms. Gong Xiaoxia, Mr. Dongfang. Sitting on the live broadcast of VOA in the United States today, Wen Gui is very moved. First of all, I want to say hello to all of my WeChat friends who support me and the audience of WeChat. I also know that many people didn’t have it last night. Taking a break, I have been paying attention to whether this program can be broadcast smoothly. Today, we can sit here. This is a great victory. First of all, I would like to express my heartfelt thanks to all those who are still concerned about this effort. I will answer this Xiaoxia. Madam and Mr. Dongfang's this.
Uh, before the question, I should first introduce myself to the ins and outs of this matter. This red so-called red wanted order. This is when hundreds of special police officers entered Beijing on January 10, 2015, and I arrested more than 270 me. The employees and my 8 family members have monitored more than 3,000. This situation of more than 3,000 people has been three years until today. This, the special case, the disciplinary committee’s public security task force is in the process of handling the case, to my family and employees You may have seen the abuse in the first and second phases of the Ming Dynasty, so the red wanted order was issued three years later and it was exactly three days after the VOA announced our live broadcast. Ah, the announcement I made on Twitter was about three days later. This is very interesting. So as far as I know, the red is called a red wanted order. There are three necessary conditions for everyone to go to this red. Impact this, this international, this, emerging website.
First, he must have direct face-to-face communication with the person before he can issue a red wanted order.
Then the second one must be in the country. After the crime and his true identity are verified, the red wanted order can be issued.
Then the third one is that the facts of this person’s crimes must be clear. It only has a channel system. It is not the executive agency of a country. He is just like an announcer in our rural China. He did not execute it. Power, and precisely what the Voice of America wants.
When we conducted this live interview, we have had a hard time in the past few days, and this is also very exciting, because of the hard work, why so many people and so many friends have to convince us not to broadcast this show, and there are also many people Encourage us in this program, then this very other aspect is that many people threaten us, and there are various threats. I will not elaborate on this one by one, but in this case. For the first time, a Chinese official came forward and responded to Guo Wengui’s case. This made me very happy, because in the past three years, I was alone in saying that I was always spreading rumors. I used Caixin magazine Boxun to spread rumors. Guo Wengui's information, this matter finally has this official answer.
This is very important, and I have to thank this so-called red wanted this time, which is the so-called red shock. This involves my personal information, I don’t have a passport, and I don’t have any identity information. The alleged bribery of the crime of 60 million from Vice Minister Ma Jian is completely fabricated, because it is not convenient for me now. The announcement was made in 2012. In December, I met with representatives from the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection and the Political and Legal Affairs Commission three times in London. During these three meetings, I talked about the so-called Ma Jian case in detail. I will announce it when necessary. This enjoys all the details. This is completely different from what he said. When Vice Minister Ma Jian’s case was announced, you will understand that this is a complete, temporary one to stop the broadcast of the Voice of America. The threats and temporary measures taken in this way are very unexpected.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
In this red wanted notice, it is written that you were born on February 2, 1967 and you live in Daxing District, Beijing. Then this household registration is located at the Daxing Branch, a police station. These facts are the number one. Is this accurate information?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
It is absolutely inaccurate. The information on this ID card and the information on the nursing station should be asked if there is a certification authority. What does it have to do with me, Guo Wengui? I, Guo Wengui, has never used this identity, and what I want to tell you is that I have not used any identity in China for 20 years or nearly 30 years, and I now hold a foreign nationality, so I am surprised, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Dalian In the so-called wanted order issued by the Municipal Public Security Bureau, my personal information was not verified. Later, I heard it yesterday because what they have been trying to do for three years is thinking. Threatening me not to break the news, and to return to their so-called worried videos and information about corrupt officials. At the same time, they also want this red wanted notice, but after various reviews, I don’t have the so-called red wanted requirements. ,
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
You said you hold a foreign passport, can you tell us which country the audience is from? What I can say now is that I am now a resident of the United States. I hold passports from three European countries in the Middle East. I have passports from European countries and multiple countries. I have about 11 passports, and I probably I haven’t used this Chinese passport for nearly 28 years. I’m a Chinese citizen. I’m very surprised. He sent this thing. So after I saw it yesterday, I’m really happy because we are preparing for this, the so-called red wanted. Well, we have achieved it. I have been mentally prepared for three years, and have always hoped to issue it, and we have all studied the efficiency of the wanted warrant of red. My team of lawyers, the Chinese government’s spent 60 million U.S. dollars, and got this Interpol secretary in one year. The long post is to prevent the Chinese people from having their corrupt information from overseas to break the news. This is why I said in the first issue of Ming Jing not to understand it as the so-called network control information control. The so-called ideology is definitely not meant to cover up these corrupt officials and thieves. This scandal that took away the money of the Chinese people will not be exposed.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
I have a question, and I still have a question in the East. My question is whether the U.S. police contacted you now, and you said that you have reported the case to the U.S. police. You used to talk to this, uh, prosecutor in New York. Why is this button so red? Sent, have the US police contacted you?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
This happened after January 10th, 2015. I arrived in the United States on January 12th. After I arrived in the United States on the 16th, the FBI and the CIA contacted me. Now the local police have been in contact, saying that we are now in contact. Outside of these, there are many security guards you have seen. They are all American policemen, retired policemen, and their official personnel. Of course, we have always been in contact.
Among them, we now have three people in our security team. Interpol is a loose organization. It is used by the Chinese government to scare the people. This is really a very low-level person for me. And vulgar. Anyone who has knowledge and common sense can ask what is the National Bank’s organization of my security team. You see, those three people are all members of this international organization and I will work for you. He is a recruited international security guard. He doesn’t have this ability to execute. Why did he make such a low-level and vulgar action before this show? This state machine is no longer serving the country or the people. It has become a terrorist tool controlled by some people. So posting this today is a great encouragement for me. At least it allows many people to see the essence of this matter. If he does not have this corruption, he will not be afraid. He will not be afraid of them. Fear and fear speak for him. They are afraid of me telling the truth, so this VOA has withstood the pressure from all parties today. I have to show respect to you. Thank you, Ms. Gong Xiaoxia, Mr. Dongfang, and all the VOA back office staff.
Reporter Dongfang: Through what you just said. Can I come to the conclusion that you are now a foreign citizen and have passports from multiple countries and even diplomatic passports. You are no longer a citizen of the People’s Republic of China.
Mr. Guo Wengui: 100% accurate.
Reporter Dongfang: The relevant Chinese authorities are here to prosecute a foreign citizen.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Not only that, my ID was cancelled by an official letter issued by the Ministry of National Security at the time, and he took it out again today. He wanted to take this identity, let’s talk about it. The more important thing is that I will talk about the origin of this passport for me, the passport of February 2, 67. This origin is very interesting, because the Ministry of National Security sent me out, including Mr. Dalai Lama, this There are also some other foreign leaders. Some countries contacted some sensitive people to handle it for me, but he didn't let me use what I wanted, and later cancelled it for me. This is why they have been trying to monitor me for the past three years, this, this so-called wanted, I still can’t show any legal crimes, and there’s no evidence, and in the political world, he’s completely illegal. I’m the Interpol. I will definitely tell him, I can tell you today, I will take 1 billion dollars and I will sue this international organization, I must understand this matter, he is completely illegal, because I am not in this status, and this fact Nor does it match.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Just now Mr. Guo Wengui said a lot about Interpol’s Red Wanted Order. I’m just saying that the United States is just because there is currently no way to verify it, because we are at this, er, interview site, but we will To check, we will go to Interpol to see what the published information is. Then I have a question below that is very interesting. You just mentioned it. Back then, your ID card was from the Ministry of National Security, er, er, I did it with you. Later, the Ministry of National Security cancelled it. What is your relationship with the Ministry of National Security?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
This, I’m on Twitter, and there is a commentator of Mr. Zhao Lifan who was also a commentator of Voice of America. He said that it would be very accurate. The Ministry of Security of China has many influential businessmen or businessmen that can be used. They are called commercial affiliates. Just let you do what you do. Of course, you will not be allowed to engage in intelligence, kill anyone, and call people like us a business affiliate as a spy. This is ignorant, because they will not believe you. He only allows you to take the money and you use it. Your overseas resources do things for him. Like me, it’s to contact some sensitive people overseas and help them build some relationships. That’s all, so the identity they created for me is very interesting.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: What is and what type of sensitive overseas personnel are? Have you contacted the Dalai Lama?
Mr. Guo Wengui: We have met many times.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: Are you entrusted by Guoan?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Guoan, as well as the country’s top leader’s entrustment, we have met many times, and I wrote a very important letter about this matter, the lama himself, the original of this letter is still with me, written to Secretary Meng Jianzhu With Chairman Xi Jinping.
This is a historical event. Of course, a lot of things happened later. I hope that one day I will be in VOA, including the video. We have a great video and the original letter written by me. Can be announced here,
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
What Mr. Guo Wengui said is very, very interesting. We also hope that further verification can be conducted below. Then I also hope that you can show us your video and these letters someday.
Reporter Dongfang:
So this red wanted, the red wanted. I just noticed the time when the red wanted was issued. This is very interesting in English. It’s very interesting in English. The Beijing branch of the Voice of America, it was two days ago. , The president of the Beijing branch was interviewed by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China, and then told him that he specifically mentioned our interview with you. We asked you what’s going on in this special interview. In addition, if you say you are a suspected criminal suspect, we will give you a platform to let you be in this unilateral one sided, and then say that you will be charged against Chinese officials. Unfounded accusations, this affects our fairness to society, and this objective principle of conduct, then the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China is so concerned about your case. I thought about it. There must be a certain reason for it. Of course we I also hope that the officials you accused can have the same amount of time to sit in our studio, ah, to explain and defend some of the things you accused, but at this point in time, it will be said that you have been arrested in Dalian. , I don’t understand why the arrest was made in Dalian. Are you not from Beijing?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Ah, I’m also very strange. This is because at that time, the crime of Pangu’s suspected underworld organization under the Disciplinary Committee’s public security has broken the surveillance of 270 employees of our eight families and more than 3,000 employees. If they are to be closed, they have seized 1,200 assets. It was the Beijing Public Security Bureau, as well as the then Deputy Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Public Security Zhenghua and Jiang Liangdong, Deputy Director of the Beijing Municipal Public Security Bureau. The task force established to arrest us and handle the case. Later a year later, due to upper-level leadership, other aspects Let’s put it here. The Dalian Municipal Public Security Bureau has a task force formed by the Deputy Mayor Liu Leguo and the Director of Public Security. So, in this case, the judiciary with this right is still possible, but I have nothing to do with Dalian. It's related, so this time it's just a matter of Dalian's jurisdiction. Speaking of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs meeting with you, including this and this, it’s very simple that you don’t post this matter. It’s because the person I’m about to break the news has the power to command the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is really afraid of corruption. So this I think you VOA should thank me Guo Wengui today. You are honored to interview Guo Wengui who has the value of this revelation and conforms to VOA values. At the same time, I think you should thank me. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will do all this to you. It has tested your will and your values. It is very meaningful that this matter will continue.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Speaking of before your revelation, can you take a moment to explain two things to us. The first thing is that although your business in China is very large, you are a civilian after all, and now we know you It's some foreign civilians, so what ability do you have to get so many of these? What are these fierce materials? Why can you have so many exchanges with such a high-level Chinese official? This is the first question. The second question is about the people in your family. You said that many people in the family were arrested. Employees were arrested. Could you please talk about the situation first?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
In order not to take up everyone's time, I simply say okay. All the information I can get is that I know very well that I know Ma Jian, a deputy minister of the Ministry of Security. He is the only technical investigator who represents the Communist Party and the Chinese government in investigating corruption in the past 18 years, so he has a huge amount of information. He was worried that he would still be killed. His Director of Operations was called Mr. Gao Kun. Gao Kun was a police security officer who had been killed by them in the task force. I’ve been dead for more than a year, yes, but these things are the ones I have the most information about. The second one. Because of the relationship between Vice Minister Ma Jian and me, I also knew more about the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. Because of Liu Zhihua’s case, including Guoan’s personnel, fortunately, Pangu has an office of their office action team. Then there is an office for detecting corruption. This is what Wang Qishan’s secretary Meng Jianzhu did today and Fu Zhenghua did it. It's them.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: The office for investigating corruption is in your building.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Part of it is in my building. Well, of course in this office, I got a lot of such information. Another thing is that in the past few years of corruption, it was black, this and this anti-corruption and anti-corruption, many people gave me the information, because Am I abroad, another personal experience
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Many people who deal with officials have given you information. Are they state officials? In other words, they work in your building and have an office. Because of this relationship, you know them, and they give you a lot of information through your channel, right?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Another is that I know many things about this. This is my personal experience, and the amount I want to report now. The second reason is that my family is very clear, that is, my family is Caught up. The reason is very simple. I haven’t been guilty after three years of investigation. I arrested all my brothers during the first arrest, and released them a year later. My 4 brothers, my 4 brothers. I was arrested, so I caught it, and I will release it later, and I will release it after this year. Then in the beginning of December 2016, I will put my fourth and sixth brothers and my daughter again. I was caught back, and then my daughter released my 4 brothers and 6 brothers who were still inside, and they were all inside.
It’s still inside. That’s this. We can look at a photo in a while. When my brother came back, he had become deformed in more than a year. Hey, my hair is gone. Sorry, our employees are the same, that is, women are abused. The man is tossed on the ground with fetters for a week. After he is asked to masturbate in person, tell them to see female employees. He was pressed against the wall by 5 policemen to let him stay away. Then, he was insulted. My elder brother, eldest brother and second elder brother still have this, I said fourth brother, sixth elder brother will come back and say me, you can take a picture, the whole face They were all deformed, and the whole person was out of shape, and then I was a fool when I came back. Then, after a year of returning, I caught 4 brothers and 6 brothers again last year.
The reason for arresting him is very simple, that is, one of my brothers and the deputy general manager of Guangdong Zhao, the deputy general manager of management, Zhao Guang, Dongguan Security, gave Fu Zhenhua’s brother and Fu Zhenhua the first sum of money at that time. The person who gave the money and the client said that he wanted to kill him, so I arrested him. Then I hope that these things will be involved in my disclosure today. Then my sixth brother Guo Wenchun and my fourth brother Guo Wenping are still inside. Deputy General Manager Yes, this Zhao Guangdong was also the person who withdrew and took money at the time, and our Vice President Lu, Vice President Li Tao, was originally in charge of the person who took the money at the time. , So they only deal with the case, that is not to investigate the bribery and rebound, but to investigate the money they were given at the time, which is the main reason why I broke the news today.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Just to summarize what you said just now is that they have a very close relationship with Guoan. Well, you have a lot of materials in your hand, and they also ask you for money. After that, why did you suddenly change your face and put your whole family, Are they all locked in?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Ah, this is not like this. The logic is not like this. I think they are very simple. He doesn’t arrest your family, is he afraid that you will not listen to him? Is he afraid that you will run away? There is one more important thing he wants to kill He doesn't want him to say that I arrested your family and I want you to do it. I'll do the errands and give me the money. What's next, because this person was arrested as a kidnapping behavior. You must listen to my instructions and say that today, what I’m going to do next is that Mr. Fu Zhenghua left after he notified me, and he told me that if he wanted me to be one year before Ma Jian’s arrest After leaving for 8 months, he said he wanted to arrest Vice Minister Ma Jian.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: Did you leave in 2015?
Mr. Guo Wengui: In 2014, I left in June of 2014.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: When was Ma Jian arrested?
Mr. Guo Wengui: Ma Jian was arrested on January 15, 2015, right?
Reporter Dongfang:
This is the website of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection on December 30, 2016. The former Ministry of National Security of China caught it in January 2015.
This is quite interesting for him. He said that he was reviewing the transfer, concealing the property involved, not reporting to his own real estate according to regulations, and handling documents for his family members in violation of regulations. There is a possibility that it has something to do with you. When it comes to taking advantage of your position to seek benefits for others, accepting huge amounts of money, you are suspected of taking bribes and committing crimes. After the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China, it still does not converge, does not stop, and the circumstances are serious. Now, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs says You have a relationship with Ma Jian
Mr. Guo Wengui:
This is completely framed and framed. He can’t sue if he doesn’t tell me. He said I’m very happy. I haven’t had a good night’s sleep recently after reading it last night. I fell asleep after watching it yesterday. I am very happy because he didn’t say that I told him that there was no way. Now this government that many foreign countries pay attention to has been paying attention to this matter, because the Chinese government did not happen. His statement left me with evidence, Vice Minister Ma Jian I’m still alive. Do I pay bribes to pass evidence and legal facts? We don’t need to discuss this here. We will speak with facts. I remember telling you that this is the Ministry of Security? This is why he has this information suddenly changed again. It’s very simple. Their real purpose is to kill the evidence in my hands, including this one that I want to show you today, and this one between me and Mr. Fu Zhenhua. During the call, I want to see you, Mr. Fu Zhenhua, as the leader of a nationwide anti-corruption task force, a person with less than 10,000 people. So what did he let me do? And what did you do? I think you should see this. This is the topic I talked about today. Next, we will talk about these other background stories.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
I also interviewed you yesterday and talked about two things. The first question is, you are saying that he received 50 million dollars from you, and you have evidence that he has a conversation with him.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Oh, yes, strictly speaking, he asked me to give him 50 million dollars. I also agreed to give it, but it must be given legally. During the discussion process, he failed to get 50 million US dollars from me. It is a fact that he took away 1.5 million in China. Just a week ago, In our hotel, we suddenly received a call saying that when this was a person, I and you were detained in Zhao Guangdong, vice president for three years, and they were sending money. It was his participant who said this, and I signed a contract with him. The contract needs to give you 1.5 million US dollars. I will call you over. Give me an account, and our accountant will send me a message saying what to do with the money? I said you must not collect this money. I have been detained in Guangdong for three years. How could there be 1.5 million dollars? This shows that Fu Zhenhua and his brother want to burn the money back. Look at their so-called anti-corruption investigation How much people want to cover up, you can't cover up the facts of your crime by getting the money back, but he still wants to do so under this circumstance. Why is he confident? He has to assure the central leadership. I didn't collect the money, I returned it, but does it comply with the law? This of course is not in line with it, so I mentioned in my revelation today that he threatened me to blackmail me 50 million US dollars, and he took away 1.5 million US dollars.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
He extorted 50 million yuan, no matter what name does it use to extort US dollars and RMB, what do we say?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
I will talk about it here, as long as I give him 50 million US dollars, he will guarantee the safety of my family, release my employees, release my family, release my brother, release my wife and daughter, and give him another one to ensure my safety. Asset security, the other is that I want to check some information for him, especially to check this mid-term and later we will talk about this background information, because today I subtract 42 minutes from our 17-hour voice clip, because Your trip to the United States does not accept that this April is too long, because of time issues or we just made an edited version a bit shorter. Let me talk about this background first, as you mentioned earlier.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
When did it happen? Where did it happen? Who participated in the situation before and after? What happened, what is your evidence?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
This is how Ms. Xia, first of all, they arrested on January 10, 2015. Before this arrest, it was around August in 2014. Fu Zhenghua’s brother started to talk to my sixth brother. And my vice president named Zhao Guangdong started contacting. I didn’t know the full name of Zhao, the former director of a police station in Datun. Then I said Mahjong was about to be arrested. Then your old Guo family must be over. I I can help you settle it. Then, you have to give me money, but I didn't say it so carefully at the time, or it was discovered that what he said was the truth during the gradual exchanges. Later, we had a dispute with Li Yong. Peking University Securities, in the event of a dispute, "I can help you settle Li Yong’s affairs, and then you give me 50 million US dollars," and then I agreed, I said I have to use the way of donation. At this time, I took away 1.5 million yuan. I really don’t know if I am in US dollars. I didn’t ask. I only knew that I gave him the money. Then after I give him the money, I will It was really January 10th. It wasn't that Vice Minister Ma Jian was also arrested. All of our employees were arrested. Then, at this time, we will make a condition after the arrest. Not only can I help you deal with Li Yong’s ability, I can also put your family back for you, but you must help me with things and check people’s information, because when I was affiliated with a business in the Ministry of Security, among them One of the tasks they always give me is to find those private investigation companies overseas to check the information of overseas anti-corruption officials. I have this role and have made a lot of contributions. We can talk about this in the future.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Before getting into that topic, we now put the procedure of this matter into it. Is it because my logic is correct? You turned out that your backer was Vice Minister Ma Jian.
Mr. Guo Wengui: It should be my leader. Not a patron, but a leader.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
He is the National Security Council, and you are not a national employee. How can you be a leader?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
China has this system, that is, as long as you are a businessman, as long as the Ministry of Security selects you, you must follow his instructions.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
We can be legal and reasonable, you are originally a staff member of the Ministry of Security of China.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
This is definitely not. Don't mislead this Xiaoxia. I am not editing, and I am not receiving salary. I am just a business registered relationship. In the future, I will issue a letter that the Ministry of Security once presented for us. Not at all. The letter clearly states that this is a work relationship in our society.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: You are equal to social relations. What do they give you, what are they, for example, do they give you any convenience in business?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
The Ministry of Security has issued a letter, which is the coordinating unit to help you do things, but in fact, I can say that the letter from the Ministry of Security is not handled in China. There is no help, including Minister Ma Jian, this, this, 60 million people said that when there was a bank for 16 years, he did not care about the facts. I was what happened in 2010. I know what happened in 2001. Ma Jian and I The deputy minister's recognition is 2006.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
What I want to ask now is the context, that is, if you and the Ministry of Security, this is your umbrella or the object of extortion by the Ministry of Security.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
No, completely blackmailed. Because I know the Ministry of Security, when the Liu Zhihua case was investigated, he was, I was the whistleblower, and he was the leader. I am a whistleblower looking for evidence. After the report was completed, I made an admonishment order and gave me legal punishment. Then I said that from now on, I must monitor you in all aspects of your safety. I am the subject and The person being blackmailed is a completely different concept.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Then let’s go back to the Liu Zhihua case, which is also very important. Just cut into the issue of all kinds of news that you were talking about just now. Then we all know that he has some videos, which are videos of whoring. That’s it. He is now This person is still in jail, so this is that you are the reporter, why are you the reporter, and who asked you to report
Mr. Guo Wengui:
At that time, I was halfway through the construction of Pangu’s project. In the name of building the Olympic Village, he built this so-called plan, which was not in compliance with the regulations, forcibly, he took it away without talking to me once, and then gave it. He is a girlfriend. Everyone can tell from the facts of the case. Then he, the corrupt officials have been corrupted and I will file a complaint everywhere. During the complaint, the Commission for Discipline Inspection and the public security said that you should provide evidence. I provided text information and photos. They don’t want it. He wants the video. In the next two years, the Public Security Commission for Discipline Inspection followed me every day to record this video of Liu Zhihua. It was recorded by the Ministry of Security. The last recorded by the Municipal Commission for Discipline Inspection made me wear this hat and arrested Liu Zhihua. Since then I was controlled by them. I had to be blackmailed by them. This is why I use my office. I didn’t pay to allow me to investigate overseas. I took over the Dalai Lama’s expenses. I spent more than 300 million yuan. He never gave me a cent. If I were a member of the Ministry of Security, I should give me an office. For funding, I have never taken a penny from the Ministry of National Security, so I said that I was blackmailed, blackmailed and supervised. So looking back, our revelations today are related to this matter, because of this matter. He said that you, Guo Wengui, have the ability to continue to help us investigate internationally, according to relevant sources. Overseas investigation company, so he asked me Fu Zhenhua to help me investigate this information is actually very important. I hope that I will show you the evidence and voice in a while. He said that he represents Chairman Xi Jinping. At that time, I asked He confirmed that the boss representing you is not President Xi Jinping? He didn't deny it,
But then, he gave me an order, saying that let me check this first, the secretary of the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection Wang Qishan, the secretary of Wang Qishan’s family, and his wife’s family, you are the only man left in the Yao family. His name is Yao Qing. Wang Qishan has no male inheritance in his family. The only thing in his family is male. Wang Qishan’s wife is Yao Mingshan, and Yao Mingduan’s sister asked me to investigate the affairs of Secretary Wang Qishan and Hainan Airlines. And it is said that the nephew of Secretary Wang Qishan holds shares in Hainan.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
The information that Mr. Guo Wengui broke was his own. We have no way to verify it. The Voice of America is not responsible for the authenticity of these materials. We very much hope that all the parties involved, the one he mentioned, will come forward to clarify the situation for me. Circumstances, if you cannot personally come forward, you can either use written means or use other means. You can also contact VOA. The address of VOA is 330. Each independence avenue Washington DC9330 is regarded as Independence Avenue and 330 Independence Avenue. It is very, very easy to find. I hope everyone who has been specifically mentioned can be Contact us, we will provide you with the same platform, thank you all. Let's go back now, Mr. Guo Wengui interviewed Mr. Dongfang, and there are many questions about this.
Reporter Dongfang:
Mr. Guo Wengui, we are all eager for the news of your nuclear explosion level. I heard you say that what you want to explode is evidence that Mr. Fu Zhenghua accepted bribes and blackmailed you. Everyone is eager. What kind of person is this evidence? , What kind of evidence is this, but before, I think I still want to ask the question of the red pass, because this red pass issued a red pass to you late last night, ah, the mainland China is for sale in the United States It was late at night, so we were shocked when we saw it in the middle of the night, we will go to interview Guo Wengui tomorrow, originally a mysterious businessman in China, this is this. Mainland China gave you this, this name, and the nickname is Mysterious Merchant. Of course, we said that you are a news figure. The news figure we interviewed is justified, so today you suddenly become Is a criminal wanted by the Chinese government around the world, so it is confirmed.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
I'm not a criminal, and you can't say that either. They didn't say that he was me because he was suspected of cooperating. He was called the red bulletin. You have to understand the word. This Mr. Dongfang, this thing, this you really can't say that, it's terrible to misrepresent it.
Reporter Dongfang:
So here we are, uh, just like the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that you interviewed a suspect and she was responsible for her words. Then, we also know that we want to know that they are issuing the red warrant, this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, this one on the left, this one late at night. What happened. Have you heard if she has time to contact you?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
There are many contacts. There are too many contacts in the past few days. I can't betray my friends. Most of them are well-intentioned, but I am also surprised by things, so I keep this information secret, and this information that is going to be exploded, he has some People basically know it. They should not report the things they are most worried about to Secretary Wang Qishan’s family and HNA’s matters. This is what they are most worried about, because this Yao Qing is known to everyone in the world. It is Secretary Wang Qishan and The core figure of the Yao family, and he is a shareholder of HNA, everyone seems to know. I think this is also very surprising, because HNA involves this wealth. In the past two or three years, everyone has seen that mergers and acquisitions involve trillions. So fast, Hainan Airlines,
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Let me add here, we have no way to verify all these information, and we are currently. We have also told Mr. Guo Wengui that all private persons are those who are not public figures. We will not involve them in the public without people’s livelihood. We also hope that he will not be involved. If it is involved, we will immediately cut off the live broadcast. But, At present, the people he mentioned are all public figures, and these public figures have opportunities, especially the American Foundation gives them the opportunity to defend themselves and defend themselves or refute Guo Wei and Mr. Guo Wengui’s statement, so I also I very much hope that they can be on our show, we give us the same platform and the same time,
Mr. Guo Wengui:
So, let me go on to say Ms. Xiao Xia, so this is for me to check, I am absolutely unwilling to check, so later I found a survey company to start the verification, indeed a lot of information can be released for a while. He is recording a call. I have given a lot of information to Fu Zhenhua’s brother and passed it. The email was hung in the inbox and passed to him. The mobile phone was passed to him, and he also received it. Then in December 2016 When I met with the leaders of the Political and Legal Committee and the Ministry of Security in Beijing, I have given them some of the information of today’s revelations, and they also reported on Secretary Meng Jianzhu and Secretary Wang Qishan. On this matter, what I call today’s revelation. This is to let the public know, and they should know, so yesterday I answered your question. Many leaders came to call me, and some of them were really leaders of the Standing Committee. This big leader was very panicked and nervous. You don’t want to report this matter. I wondered later. It might be the name of the country, the image of the country, and the image of the party. I must first tell Ms. Xiaoxia and Mr. Dongfang what to say. I No anti-China, no anti-Communist, no anti-government. I want to break the news that he is a corrupt element. Corrupt elements cannot represent the Chinese government or the Chinese people. So I said I clarified this issue. This is the first and second one. If you say Wengui, you have proved that you are a good person, so stop breaking the news. I broke the news and reported it to anti-corruption and corruption elements, including whether I was a criminal or not. It has nothing to do with their corruption or corruption. Today, Mr. Dongfang killed someone, I Report you, I am a murderer, I have the right to report you, so we have to clarify these two issues, I am not against the Chinese government, don't put high hats on me, they do not represent the Chinese government, they can not represent The Chinese people, I just love China and the people. I report these corrupt officials and national thieves. So when Fu Zhenghua asked me to investigate this matter, it involved Secretary Meng Jianzhu saying that Secretary Meng Jianzhu was his nephew. Sister's child.
When it comes to China Resources, Song Lin at the time involved hundreds of billions of assets, including Secretary Meng Jianzhu’s past lovers. This is all the information he provided to me. Then I also broke the news to Secretary Meng Jianzhu. I want to follow What you said today by VOA is what I just said and I have reported it to the Chinese government. So you said that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs came to you mainly because I was surprised because I reported it to them first. Talk about you, and I gave them everything. They also know that they still have a phone call with me. Of course they talked about this. You didn’t need me to break the news, but you didn’t reply to me because it was Fu Zhenhua who forced me to do things and kidnapped my family, all of them. I’ll tell you this when the monitoring of the abusive employees and thousands of employees has seized my 120 billion assets. The reason is because she threatened me that I did not commit a crime. Then today, before our program is about to break out, I will be diplomatic. The Ministry is calling you, I want red. This is a red notification. The language of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is called red notification. This is obviously the purpose of preventing us from breaking the news. Then it obviously shows that the news is a threat to them. Then I It was originally about the process of Fu Zhenhua threatening me, but it doesn’t seem that Fu Zhenghua himself is threatening me.
Many designers are threatening me to kill me, so I hope very much. You can say from the voice, when you listen to it for the first time, Fu Zhenhua will give me a call. He said that my eldest brother will talk to you, and I will call me by satellite. Let me talk about it first Speaking of the background, I used a satellite phone to charge when I was recording. I recorded this external cause while holding my mobile phone. So it’s not very clear. This is why we put together a voice version and that text version, but now I can’t hang it up a bit. Later, I hope everyone will follow my twitter Guo Wengui's Twitter. This is the text version of the Chinese and English version that we will hang on the car. After editing, you can see Fu Lao San’s eldest brother. We will not call Fu Zhenhua because he said his eldest brother I don’t know who it is. The voice was changed after passing it. He said that my voice had been monitored. He changed the voice during the call. I was surprised. Then he gave me an order to investigate the nephew of Secretary Wang Qishan, Yao Qing. Shares held in HNA.
The relationship between Wu Mingshan and Yao Mingduan and Wang Jian and Chen Feng, and then used the people of Secretary Wang Qishan’s family to coordinate this trillion-dollar loan, laundering money overseas in the name of overseas mergers and acquisitions, and then including these relationships between men and women. It’s about the funds of several investment companies, so I can take a look from the voice. My deeds forced me to do so when Fu Zhenhua kidnapped my family.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
I am, I have no way to prove who he is, but I know your voice. I can hear this one very clearly, but who is the other party but give us a direct judgment. It’s not like it’s really two-sided, but we can’t do a call. Confirm the callee, um, his identity, so we are also more cautious. It's not another one. I know a lot of the current status of these people. Whether it’s the New York Times or the first reading, I’m looking for you to talk about this situation. Then we also hope that we can continue to talk to you after the live broadcast is over. Even if we are affected by these situations, we will go back. I will find individuals from related companies to conduct in-depth investigations to a certain degree. This is very important, but I just thought you mentioned repeatedly that they control your family and treat them to your home. They just do it. This means that after you came out, your entire family was still detained in China, including your daughter who was in jail. Now, they use this control method to control them. Why do they say whether there is past tense? You have used you to control others, so after they control Lin now, in addition to the information and things you have, what else do they need, for example, who took your 120 billion assets? Where did the money go? Who took your money? We also want to know about the situation before and after.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
The question you asked, Xiao Xia is very good. This 120 billion asset is one of their big motives. Fu Zhenhua’s younger brother Fu Lao San also discussed with us. I hope that in the future, our National Securities and Founder Securities will merge. The equity in the process, including that he might want to take away some of the equity, this other leaders also proposed, can help me solve the problem, can also take part of the equity, including a part of Pangu's real estate, then the 120 billion is these corrupt officials Ah, when I wanted to kill my mouth, another interest appeal was born by the middleman. This is for sure, and one of them issued a trust in 2014. One billion is called Zhongtai Trust. This is 10 Billion in debt. It is Zhongtai Trust that sells it, and the debt can be transferred. A Hong Kong company is called Carnival, Carnival. This listed company is the shareholder of the listed company. It is the brother of the former Vice Chairman of the State Mr. Zeng Qinghong, and the daughter of Zeng Qinghuai is called Zeng. Baby, after taking away the 1 billion loan,
At that time, we made a guarantee with 42 sets of Pangu's craftsmanship. How much is this 42-suite property worth? The evaluation value made three weeks ago was 5.8 billion, which means that someone wants to take a debt of 1 billion and hold your assets of nearly 6 billion. This has gone through the court process, just before I was on this show. , The task force carried out a new batch of actions, that is, the court called our people, and then showed a red-headed document, saying that you look at the political document, and ordered you not to speak, and immediately auction your assets. Including this, uh, other market threats to me, including this threat of talking to my daughter, which means to tell you, if you dare to appear on this show, then I will find any reason to arrest you, including various leaders who have found us other Threats from employees and threats to other family members are very simple. They are very interested in this asset and do not want you to tell it. This also proves that there are legends in the world that I have a relationship with Zeng Qinghong. This is impossible. I If you want to have a relationship with him, you will not continue to increase your baby. I will use my assets. The more important thing is that you just said that 120 billion assets are the driving force. He wants to kill my family, so now I It is that I am no longer naive. The result of my negotiation and compromise with us has deceived me back, killed me, and killed my family and employees. This is why I stepped up and broke the news.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
This means that when I talked to you yesterday, you also said that you are actually a foreign citizen and that Chinese assets are not your assets, but the assets of your family business.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Yes, nothing to do with me, because I only have a foreign passport, does my holding of Chinese assets become a foreign company? All family funds are related to my related investment institutions and funds.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Now it means to deduct your property. So many employees and so many people in your family have seized your property, right?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Yes, they have been sealing up, on January 10, 2015, and have been sealing up until now.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Since the seizure, the asset, the asset itself is the money that makes money, you know better than me
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Do I lose 12 million RMB every day? That is to say, I lost about 600 million US dollars in one year. Every day I am interviewing you. I have already lost 12 million. So this is the reason why they made me bankrupt or made you kneel down. This is why I said that I must emphasize that I hope that China will rule the country according to law, and all the bosses in China will be the next Guo Wengui. Because these people took advantage of them to kidnap the state apparatus, they kidnapped General Secretary Xi’s really good original intention, to govern the country according to the law, I am in China, I am absolute, and I respect President Xi very much. It’s right and frank to govern the country according to law. Let’s say, before I came out of China, I thought that China would not engage in corruption control, or just bounce back. China would be the end of the country, but some people have already kidnapped this, this so-called anti-corruption incident, so it is In today’s situation, you can see that Fu Zhenhua is the most important person in the fight against corruption. This most important person is blackmailing me, and his brother still has money, and he even asked me to investigate Secretary Wang Qishan’s Family, and Secretary Meng Jianzhu. If these materials and documents of Secretary Wang Qishan are the materials we provided to him, they should be suitable. Fu Zhenhua, do you have any materials? Another one I am providing you with, just paid Recorded the recording of Fu Zhenhua’s brother. That’s his reason. Then you can listen to her, then you can verify. Then I gave it to you a few months ago and half a year ago. You can verify it completely. If it is inappropriate, then you are greedy. Anti-corruption protects huge corruption, but if you investigate corrupt officials, they have no power and are not protected by her. Therefore, China's current law has been completely kidnapped, so I hope you can put down this recording and listen to it.
Reporter Dongfang: Just now you said that they had a recording, and they also changed their voice. Can we listen to this recording?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Listen, please listen
Recording with Mr. Guo Wengui: "Ah, ah, the 50 million yuan is the 500,000 yuan. I said you hurry up. If you sign me overseas, it’s a donation thing. I have to give me money quickly. No, then the third brother also took this piece last time. I will do it for you as soon as possible, okay,"? "Okay, I am already optimistic about you" "Well I know.""
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Reporter Dongfang:
This passage is not very clear. He probably said that the 50 million US dollars should be donated to me overseas. Hurry up, what does this mean, is this?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Because when he asked me for money, I said I could not give you money directly. Isn't that my crime? Did I bribe? I said you find a donation fund. I donate this fund to you and donate it to public welfare. He said he can find a righteousness fund to collect my money in overseas accounts, so he always urges me, and at the same time he urges him to The survey data of this, and you can see from other recordings I provided, I passed the data to him, and then he asked for the money, I said that you signed the donation agreement for me, and I will give you the money.
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia:
Sorry, our time has arrived. It is the satellite time of this hour. This is the first hour. Now we return the time to the Washington Studio. Then, we will continue to interview Mr. Guo Wengui, but now Time to hand it to Xu Bo, Washington,
Host Xu Bo:
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Host Xu Bo:
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Reporter Dongfang:
Dear listeners and viewers, we will be back soon after our 3-hour live broadcast of Mr. Guo Wengui.
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Reporter Dongfang: Hello, hello Mr. Guo.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Hello Mr. Dongfang.
The older brother of Fu Lao San, he called me many times. This is the edited version, which mainly talks about the situation. For example, Qian Na, and the information I checked. This is all on my satellite phone. Then, I recorded it with the external voice of the satellite phone. He took the voice change and said that my voice has been controlled by the country. He likes this situation of pretending to be a fool, so you can start from this. Three you can he is the original sound. You and Fu Lao San’s voice can be redeemed, but Fu Lao San just accepts the money, and then I tell him how to pay the donation agreement. He has all this, including the money I told him you took, this At that time, according to your director Zhao, my deputy director Zhao, my brother, and others were all present and asked whether your matter was judged at the first instance, and everyone was arrested. Then this Fu Zhenhua, this, this Fu Lao San The eldest brother said, "This Jiang Liangdong is my person, so it's OK. One is his original working place. Then I can control him. It's okay. You continue to check the information for me." So you start from this voice Among them, it is possible to prove it. His two brothers completely echoed this. Although he changed his voice, his brother did not change his voice.
Reporter Dongfang: The 50 million dollars you just mentioned,
Mr. Guo Wengui:
That is, the third child of his family is called the third brother. This third brother is Fu Zhenhua’s third brother who took money for the first time. Didn’t he take away 1.5 million yuan? Yes, the third brother took away 1.5 million yuan there. this means.
Use it as a recording material, if there is a recording material, the recording material will change the sound. He has no diacritic, so let's put it away, thank you.
Recording content: "If this is the case, the third brother said that you would not call your eldest brother. Tell him once, and then say that the last time he got it, the old Wang’s person was the Qishan Secretary, because at that time You said that the voice that you are talking, you are all that mutated, and I can’t hear you clearly. Then, it’s that thing. It’s really difficult to deal with when I understand it outside. Well, and, who Tell your eldest brother, including the dream, um, I learned about the situation he said in Hong Kong, and Singapore learned about no new information, but it was said that the identities of a few other people were found to be problematic, but Well, it should be a matter with the grandson. What do you think I should do, um, should I send it to you now, or when it comes? How do I do it?" "I send it to you and you understand "What's the current situation in the country? It's been very miserable after being caught in the past few days. Shouldn't you tell your eldest brother that you should come back? Don’t you tell me how many elder brothers have come back? That thing helped him last time. Do you get people back if you get it?" "........." "I didn't come out? Who told you about this. Who told you about this? Yes, no. Yesterday, when the eldest brother talked to me, did he say that this is just for making money? Just said that it is, are the 50 ones? I said this and he said you come out Will you contact me? I'll wait for you to contact me, but the third brother, you know the situation in the family, you said I didn't tell you to not cash it, you know? One has to be called the eldest brother legal. This is one, one is all I haven't come out, hey, in fact, the thing I am embarrassed to say is that I am sure you understand this feeling of mine." "..."
Mr. Guo Wengui:
Ah, I found this, this is very clear, he provided it to me, it is Secretary Wang Qishan’s wife, it is the only man in the Yao family, this is Yao Jinqing, to investigate and provide Yao Qing’s various This kind of certificate, Fu Zhenhua asked Fu Lao San to give it to me. And this proof originally included Ms. Yao Mingshan, the various certificates of Secretary Wang Qishan’s wife, the certificates of Yao Mingshan’s sister, and the various certificates of Yao Mingduan, including Yao Qing’s wife, Zhao Rong’s. Documents, as well as the documents of Mr. Yao Qing’s children. They also provided me with some things for me to check, and it was clear that I checked with HNA. You can check HNA and the loans I have received over the years. He was very clear about buying airplanes and real estate bank information overseas, including Mr. Yao Qing’s overseas social activities, and the private jets they used immediately, and he told me that they had Several airplanes provided me with the numbers of the airplanes. Then, we investigated the whereabouts and riding conditions of these airplanes, and I provided them to him. At the same time, he was very concerned about even overseas Deposits, overseas fund activities, HNA’s rebates and the president Wang Jianshe and Chen Feng. Obviously he is a public figure in a listed company. Then I checked all of these conditions and I have given him all of them. At this time, he should My family was released back, but he didn’t release it. This is what I saw in a while, that is, it was released a year later.
Reporter Dongfang:
You mean that Fu Zhenhua has released your family name to investigate if Wang Qishan is like this?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
It’s like this, so why is this? Because of this, Mr. Dongfang will also pay attention to it. Later, I also hope to show you a recording. He clearly said that Secretary Cha Wang Qishan and Secretary Meng Jianzhu are Xi The chairman asked him to check. His original words were that Chairman Xi didn't believe him and only used him, not Wang and Meng. You can put this sentence in the future and take a look. Then I said this sentence. I also specifically told him if he wanted to investigate, you don’t represent this boss Xu. Then I will commit a crime after you and I have checked. Then who will protect my family? He said you only need After checking the matter, you can solve everything for you, family members can go home, employees can go home, assets are no problem, and will support you to continue to help you, he has this condition, of course I will give the information After giving it to him, he did not do this. This is also the reason why I broke the news,
Reporter Dongfang:
So, let’s talk about it now. The call between you and him with Fu Lao San is not changed. The call between you and his Lao San Fu is changed. Then we have just listened to this change. Yes, can we continue to listen to the conversation between you and his elder brother, because it directly involves the eldest brother of Fu Lao San you mentioned, that is Fu Lao San, right? Do you still have his recording? Let's put a little more, OK?
recording:
"......" "You, I don't know, I didn't say what you said, I really don't understand what they think of me, what's wrong with me?" What did I mess with her? ""......" Why? What does this mean?" "..." "It's not that he wants to fuck me, Am I just because of Liu Zhenhua’s business, big brother, how can I find him? What am I against him?" "......" "Yeah , Um, um, I understand." "..." Well, "you, bit them..."
Reporter Dongfang:
Listening to this, it’s difficult to hear the diacritical voice of the three brothers Fu’s voice. "Actually, he was very angry and asked both parties to check it. Boss Meng also had a lot of opinions on you, so he said that he must get rid of it. What do you mean?
Mr. Guo Wengui:
When he told me at the time, why should I listen to him, because he kept saying, this is Boss Xi, Secretary Wang, Secretary Meng who wants to investigate you, the case team, when I go to arrest someone , Everyone said that you are done and you are dead. This is the case personally grasped by Secretary Qishan, and the case personally grasped by Meng Jianzhu was personally approved by President Xi. Later, we verified through multiple channels. President Xi certainly did not approve it, but he told me that Secretary Wang Qishan was going to destroy your family and get your son back and collect all your assets. Only if you cooperate with me to check the information and listen to me, I can let this big boss, Chairman Xi speak for you, and then I will speak for you on behalf of Qi Shanti, and keep your family safe and assets safe. This is his whole process. He said you want to check, ah, Secretary Qishan has already said, let me kill you, the whole family will destroy you, get your son back, and all the assets will be confiscated. This is the beginning of this matter. ,
Reporter Dongfang:
In other words, if he asks you to check Wang Qishan and Secretary Meng Jianzhu, then you will definitely offend Wang Qishan and Meng Jianzhu.
Mr. Guo Wengui:
That must be the case, but ah, I think I am implementing the orders of Fu Zhenhua and Chairman Xi, I will check it, I will tell him when you see the voice in my communication, and I will give him something if I say something, Mr. Fu Three said that you send it to me, and the information I gave him is hung in an email box. He takes that inbox. If you don’t send it in this way, you can send it to your mobile phone. Then I will give him the information. He should have let my family go. He didn’t let go. Not only did he not let go, but he caught more, and he kept hitting harder. So this happened to me later, even the board of directors’ rights. I took it away, and then I helped Li Yong even more. That’s why I said that on Der Spiegel TV, in this revelation, I said that Fu Zhenhua ate the plaintiff and the defendant, not that he and Li Youyong were getting better again. After being together, various information It proved, hey, he helped Li Yong, and Li Yong was also exonerated and acquitted, but my person was not guilty, and it has been detained to this day. It has been more than three years, and it has exceeded the detention period of all Chinese judicial authorities. In this way, many of my employees disappeared and could not be found, and even more terrible things also made various threats to my other family members. He was completely treachery. Later, I found out that he really wanted to kill our whole family. Later, I was lying to me that he wanted to kill his mouth. Then I thought, ah, he really represents the country and Xi, now I, I later I found out that she was not like this, so I had to stand up and speak, but before that, I first gave the information to the senior leaders of the Beijing Political and Legal Affairs Commission and the Ministry of Security. I have already told Fu Zhenghua to tell them, but they will give it. When I came to meet, I asked me to meet each other. A low-key handling of this case can help me solve it, but I can’t break the news. Then I think it’s problematic. Why did Fu Zhenhua kidnap my whole family and insult my employees for illegally handling the case, kidnapping and seizing assets, and this traditional Caixin gave me rumors that it was completely It's not a fact, and the point is that there is this fact. You don't check the fact that he and Fu Zhenghua collect money from his brother, you are not. This, yes, greed, must be investigated, does President Xi, Secretary Huang, and Mencius have repeatedly said that you have to be hard when you strike iron. The anti-corruption in the past five years has mainly been started by a few of you, so now you, Even if you strike iron, you still need to harden yourself. I have already reported him to take the money. Then why don’t you check him? It’s even more terrible. What I took is hard evidence. I have a recording. I have evidence. You can verify it, Fu Did Lao San take the money? Does Lao Fu Fu? This, this, this is his, just record it to verify. If Fu Zhenhua’s voice is him, I don’t know if you go with the matter, I only know Fu Lao San Boss, I don’t know if it’s called Fu Zhenhua, you just need to verify it. After that, we started on Der Spiegel TV and broke the news on my personal work Twitter. After many delays, I just threatened me not to allow it. Speak, meet each other, but my employees continue to disappear and my family members continue to be threatened. This is not tolerable, so I have to stand up and break the news. Is that why I said that Wang Qishan's data should be mentioned directly?
Reporter Gong Xiaoxia: I'm sorry we should stop when the time is up.
Reporter Dongfang:
Dear listeners and viewers, I am very sorry for this. Due to various reasons, our live broadcast must be stopped. I'm sorry everyone. We at the Voice of America will continue to bring you objective and fair news in the future.
